Topic: Let's test out something really different...

[Atolm-Rising]

Here's my new Reyes-Class
Its when Starship design becomes so comfortable, that it can be designed as art
Enjoy:

[Rod ONeal]

I like it mostly.

I'd prefer if the nacelles weren't stacked, but were side by side, in a more traditional placement. I really like the whole s-shaped theme, a lot.

[FoaS_XC]

I love the swishiness. And I disagree with Rod, I'm diggind the stacked nacelles. It looks balanced, definitely, but almost precariously so. I know its not - but that little double-take is really neat :-). I like the front of the nacelles especially, and the way that the tendrils don't so much hold them up but rather wrap around them.

[Starfox1701]

It's different thats for sure and as long as you are having fun I say run with it .

[Atolm-Rising]

This is very asthetically pleasing... While I agree ships are a work of art, Mostly with romulans and federation designs... I'm not sure you should be taking it so far.. At least without showing more progression. The asymetry is a very nice touch and I know you've shown this style before. But I'm still not sure it works. Your starting to take away from functionality of the ships, they don't feel practical. Well mainly the lower nacelle. How is its bussard supposed to function? Also your blend of styles. Your taking a TOS style and pushing it past anything thats a standard norm. Past 29th tech and beyond... I'm sorry While I do really love the design and the fact it is in itself a work of art. I can't see this design in the Trek universe at all. And just as with most of your ships, I don't see it been made. No one round here will be willing to take it up. Which is a shame as if it were 3d... People might start taking notice and you could start fitting your style in with whats accepted.

I am not changing my style to "Fit" what you or other percieve as "normal". 
I didn't ask anyone to build it either.  Hell, I'll build it if i wanted to that badly... And I'm getting a bit tired of the precieved "ideology" of what Trek is and is not.  This ship marks no specific era, and yet pays homage to many.  I did it specifically to show that it could be done.  Just as buildings are being designed more and more to challenge what is precieved as "established" architechtual styles for more daring designs that keep engineering in mind, but ar truely pieces of art, this ship does that.  To feel so comfortable in space and supraluminal travel as to design a vessel that shows just that... Comfortability.  To say hey we can design and build ships for space travel the way we build buildings, and cars, and sculpture.  That is what I am presenting here(as always in general).
Just because a few to many of you guys don't see it "fitting in", doesn't mean it wouldn't be built, especially if you take the real world into account, and our design history as humans.

Anyway enjoy

[Atolm-Rising]

wow you have to get so defencive. you obviously posted it here for an opinion... so accept whats said, not just the pieces you want to hear

LOL...I wassen't being defensive, just stating trends that I have noticed.
I'm not upset, far from it.
to say that I should design more to "accepted" ideas is hillarious.   I challenge any "established" ideology remember?
Atolm = Unothodox 
Sorry FW if you took it that way, was not my intention, my appologies

[Atolm-Rising]

Its not supposed to make sense to you, It's supposed to make sense to me :p
Its not hypocritical or contradictory, I choose to stay within the limits I set-up for myself, should I choose to "alter the agreement", I just do it.
Not one design That I have ever made has really defied anything outrageously.  I've just been ahead of the curve.  Look at ST Online's  donut ships, I did that years ago... Gabe's Connie details, I did those years ago.  Only 4 ships have beaten me to the punch in design ethic of originality, the D'deridex, Galaxy, Defiant, and the New Ent... And in thinking about it, its probably the reason I really enjoy all four designs so much.
I'd think by now that I have established a clear direction of thought, ideology, and execution of design.

[GotAFarmYet?]

I like the look of the Saucer, and the engines. I can't really see enough of the secondary hull to tell if I like it or not. Not a fan of the engines being mounted on top of one another never trully liked the look of it I prefer them on the sides. I think they might have looked better if they arched under the saucer. Not so sure I like the S shape by I do like the curves and think an arch style looks better than the S, but that is me.

If you are talking physics in the trek world, you are wasting your time FW. If you are talking physics in general then the S shape will not be used in weight barrier area. A Arch id good at supporting weight by taking the weight on the arch and transfering to the ends or base of the arch. a S shape with the weight on the top would cause compression because of the unsupported end and eventually fracture of the support.

[Starforce2]

I'd like to see this one with the traditional nacelle arangement. But that's the only detail I don't like. Everything else is cool.

[Star Dragon]

I for one always find them "interesting"... 

Anyway, Have you thought of a variant with nacels to the sides with the swish still?

[FoaS_XC]

I for one always find them "interesting"... 

Anyway, Have you thought of a variant with nacels to the sides with the swish still?

If I were Atolm, which I'm not, but if I were to do something like that, I would make one taller than the other.

[Bonk]

I love it. One of your best yet.

I don't think it's too far at all. Think how people love their car designs today. The odd "sporty" spaceship design makes sense.

What I like is the asymmetric organic feel, yet the symmetry is still there.

[Atolm-Rising]

the Reason for the one nacelle on the saucer and one on the hull is logic: saucer seps, and you still have warp, that simple.
and I do not need 3, as 2 keeps the ship sleek.

[Atolm-Rising]

I love it. One of your best yet.

I don't think it's too far at all. Think how people love their car designs today. The odd "sporty" spaceship design makes sense.

What I like is the asymmetric organic feel, yet the symmetry is still there.

Bonk, you hit it right on the nose!
Nice job
Thnx

[Roychipoqua_Mace]

I like it!

Could it work if it were converted to TOS, or would that just be too strange? I don't know how TOS would deal with curved pylons and stuff like that but it could be interesting too.

[Starfox1701]

The only real rules I have about starship design is 1 Form follows function and 2 don't make bashes you don't need to fill holes in the time line. The most basic way to interper that is don't design features that either serve no purpose or won't work in "real life" (yes the term is used lossly) and don't make a new design especially out of parts from an old one if you alread have 10 perfectly good ones to do the job at that time. While this ship is highly stylised it doesn't break the first rule and the shapes could easilly fit for an early to mid 25th century ship of small to moderate size. Atlom You think you could aply that thought process to some of the other races ships?

[FoaS_XC]

The only real rules I have about starship design is 1 Form follows function and 2 don't make bashes you don't need to fill holes in the time line. The most basic way to interper that is don't design features that either serve no purpose or won't work in "real life" (yes the term is used lossly) and don't make a new design especially out of parts from an old one if you alread have 10 perfectly good ones to do the job at that time. While this ship is highly stylised it doesn't break the first rule and the shapes could easilly fit for an early to mid 25th century ship of small to moderate size. Atlom You think you could aply that thought process to some of the other races ships?

eh, see i got no problem with good kitbashes (Saladin, Federation, Mars, etc). I got problems with bad ones (can't think of any right now, but they are definately out there).

I love it. One of your best yet.

I don't think it's too far at all. Think how people love their car designs today. The odd "sporty" spaceship design makes sense.

What I like is the asymmetric organic feel, yet the symmetry is still there.

Good analogy, makes the design look even better when cast in that light.

[Starfox1701]

The only real rules I have about starship design is 1 Form follows function and 2 don't make bashes you don't need to fill holes in the time line. The most basic way to interper that is don't design features that either serve no purpose or won't work in "real life" (yes the term is used lossly) and don't make a new design especially out of parts from an old one if you alread have 10 perfectly good ones to do the job at that time. While this ship is highly stylised it doesn't break the first rule and the shapes could easilly fit for an early to mid 25th century ship of small to moderate size. Atlom You think you could aply that thought process to some of the other races ships?

eh, see i got no problem with good kitbashes (Saladin, Federation, Mars, etc). I got problems with bad ones (can't think of any right now, but they are definately out there).

I love it. One of your best yet.

I don't think it's too far at all. Think how people love their car designs today. The odd "sporty" spaceship design makes sense.

What I like is the asymmetric organic feel, yet the symmetry is still there.

Good analogy, makes the design look even better when cast in that light.

I don't have any problems with those ships ether but then thats because they are some of the oldest bashes in trek history and after ST II are pretty much cannon. But if some one were to do another 1 necelle DD today for TMP era out of Constitution parts I would say that ship violates rule 2 and is not needed. We already have a good and accepedt 1 necelle DD TMP.

[FoaS_XC]

Eh The Roddenberry rules of starship design = bs. They were just to undermine franz joseph as a designer.

[Atolm-Rising]

Special thanks to WickedZombie45, for creating the Renders of my mesh