Topic: Thoughts on the end of BSG, possible fleet in the works for it...SPOILERS

[Magnum357]

Hmmm... an interesting anaylisis Norsehound.  From what I understand, most people didn't like the idea of the Colonials and Cylons working together and forming an aliance.  Most agree that is what reuined the show.  I tend to disagree to a point.  Keep in mind that those were "rebel" cylons that disagreed and conflicted with "Cavils" Cylons that allied (what few that broke away) with the Colonials. 

In a way, I had a feeling this was going to happen because lets say that the Cylons were successful in wipping out all of the Colonials, what then?  Sooner or later, the "evovled" cylons would face the same problems and situations that the Colonials once did building there civilization and would have to deal with it somehow, even if the way a Cylon culture works is "alien" to how a colonials culture functions, its just the way the universe works I guess. 

For story telling, this probably seems stupied, conflict seems to be the one of the constants of the universe (which is why some people would prefer that the Colonials and Cylons just stay seperate and duke it out).  From what I could tell, I think Moore wasn't designing the "re-envisioned" Battlestar Galactica as a "space opera", but more like a greatly detailed novel of a story. 

One thing I do think the TOS Battlestar Galactica has an advantage over the new show is the simplicity.  Granted, no where near as sophisticated as this "re-imagined" BSG, but sometimes those simple episodes can still be satisfying if you got nothing else to watch.   

[Norsehound]

In regard to the cylons, I feel what ruined the show there was that they had no clear motivation.

They bombed the colonies and dropped hints that there was an ulterior motive for this ("And they have a plan...") but it seems to me the writers never did. They kept the mystery and drama of what the Cylons wanted up in the air but offered contradicting clues as to what that plan was. They wanted to harvest ovaries. They wanted to outgrow their parents. Etx. In the end, didn't Eick admit that they slapped on "And they have a plan" because it sounded cool, and for no other reason?

Other villains, even ones that reform, have some reason for doing what they did to the protagonists. The Borg want to make everyone perfect, so they assimilate people. The Galactic Empire from Star wars wanted to oppress everybody, so they built a giant death station. Shaddam the IVth feared the influence of house Atreadies , so he backstabbed them politically. The original cylons hated humanity's unpredictability, so they must be killed.

Moore's cylons? God did it. Apparently God made the cylons blow up the colonies so the radioactive, socially backward remnants could bounce across the universe, breed with the cylons, and give hera to Earth. That premise alone sounds as convoluted as some bad fanfiction, yet that seems to be what we're left with, no? And yet Moore gets gushing praise for "The best Sci-fi show on television".

[Magnum357]

In the end, didn't Eick admit that they slapped on "And they have a plan" because it sounded cool, and for no other reason?

With all due respect then, if Eick came up with the "and they have a plan", isn't he more at fault here then Moore?  Just kidding.   

But I do agree, the ora of "mystery" is probably what made the show a block buster then anything.