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Offline PigUp

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Re: So on May the 8th Star trek will die
« Reply #80 on: May 10, 2009, 05:00:26 pm »
My thoughts in random order, some positive, most negative (spoilers below):

  • Why is the Narada so large and yet only needs a small portion of it to do any drilling? Of special note are the apparently useless spires on the front of the ship which seemingly exist to increase its size and make it more evil looking (nothing says evil like spires!).
  • If the Enterprise has left Vulcan's solar system at warp 3 about 15 minutes previously, how did they manage to beam aboard? By the time they figured out how to do it the Enterprise was long gone.
  • Fairly weak musical score, only two pieces of the music in this movie fit with what's going on the screen and aren't below average.
  • "Action" shots had poor camera placement and cut away too quickly (though watching this in IMAX might have skewed my perception since this movie was clearly not designed to fit on a IMAX screen).
  • Apparently humans dominate Starfleet's ranks by a billion to one in this time period  ::).
  • Why do hyposprays hurt? JJ should have focused more on making sense and less on comedy.
  • Incredibly funny, almost a comedy.
  • How many warp cores does the Enterpise have? Or, when ejected, does it split up?
  • The cast was very well picked, however I thought Kirk was off. I suppose the reason he was less confident in the face of danger is lack of experience (judging by the expression on his face, he almost wet himself running away from the creatures on Delta Vega
  • Unfortunately you never get to see the other Starfleet ships that make up the attacking fleet, of what I did saw I thought looked good.
  • I didn't like the new Romulan look, the tattoos did nothing to make them more menacing.
  • Black hole equals time travel?
  • Spock, apparently, does not care about interfering with another timeline even though it wouldn't affect his own. He should have never helped out.
  • A hover bike is slower than a 300 year old wheel based vehicle?
  • Was all the swearing really necessary? Overusing it just devalues any extra oomph the words have.

This list can go on forever, in a nutshell, where is the Star Trek in this movie? It has the characters, places, some of the technology, but not the feeling. To me it was a like watching some other sci-fi movie with Star Trek painted over it.

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Re: So on May the 8th Star trek will die
« Reply #81 on: May 10, 2009, 05:44:00 pm »
Fairly weak musical score, only two pieces of the music in this movie fit with what's going on the screen and aren't below average.


Does this mean they don't use the classic Goldsmith format of Motion Picture theme combined with the unique movie theme?

Also, how is the technobabble situation in the new movie? Some of the coolest episodes of TNG like "Cause and Effect" or "Parallels" are great until the very ending, where the only way to resolve the plot is by reversing the polarity of the spatial duodynetic phase discriminator.

Just for kicks, http://everything2.com/title/Technobabble%2520Generator

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Re: So on May the 8th Star trek will die
« Reply #82 on: May 10, 2009, 08:00:32 pm »
Fairly weak musical score, only two pieces of the music in this movie fit with what's going on the screen and aren't below average.


Does this mean they don't use the classic Goldsmith format of Motion Picture theme combined with the unique movie theme?
Nope. The only piece of music from any of the shows or movies is TOS's opening/closing credit piece. Which I found hilarious because of all the older pieces to choose from they picked the one I liked the least  :P.
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Also, how is the technobabble situation in the new movie? Some of the coolest episodes of TNG like "Cause and Effect" or "Parallels" are great until the very ending, where the only way to resolve the plot is by reversing the polarity of the spatial duodynetic phase discriminator.

Just for kicks, http://everything2.com/title/Technobabble%2520Generator
Outside of the transporter scene I mentioned, not much technobabble is there.

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Re: So on May the 8th Star trek will die
« Reply #83 on: May 10, 2009, 08:13:45 pm »
Fairly weak musical score, only two pieces of the music in this movie fit with what's going on the screen and aren't below average.


Does this mean they don't use the classic Goldsmith format of Motion Picture theme combined with the unique movie theme?
Nope. The only piece of music from any of the shows or movies is TOS's opening/closing credit piece. Which I found hilarious because of all the older pieces to choose from they picked the one I liked the least  :P.
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Also, how is the technobabble situation in the new movie? Some of the coolest episodes of TNG like "Cause and Effect" or "Parallels" are great until the very ending, where the only way to resolve the plot is by reversing the polarity of the spatial duodynetic phase discriminator.

Just for kicks, http://everything2.com/title/Technobabble%2520Generator
Outside of the transporter scene I mentioned, not much technobabble is there.


Cool, thanks. That's funny they chose the old theme... I guess I've gotten used to it.  :)

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Re: So on May the 8th Star trek will die
« Reply #84 on: May 10, 2009, 08:45:19 pm »
My thoughts: Pretty darn good overall... Really recaptured the feel of TOS to me which was much more important than being strictly accurate to the timeline and nitpicky details which it kinda threw out anyway.

Characterizations were spot on IMO except for Checkov who was way too Wesley Crusher. Uhura was very different as well but I though it was a good difference.

Plot was weak but eh wasn't looking for 2001 and the characters drove the movie which made up for it. Nemesis rip off.

Villain wasn't developed enough... came off as a disgruntled postman with a nuke.

Nimoy was superfluous but harmless...

SFX were awesome...

If you are a canonite you'll hate it but otherwise it gives a "This is good Trek" feel... beats the crap out of all the TNG movies...

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Re: So on May the 8th Star trek will die
« Reply #85 on: May 10, 2009, 09:59:15 pm »
trek didn't die, it was rebooted.  Cannon Trek was a joke to begin with with all the contradictions, retcons, etc. . .
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Re: So on May the 8th Star trek will die
« Reply #86 on: May 10, 2009, 10:00:15 pm »
Looks like 76 million it's first weekend isn't that bad.

Move the discussion to the new thread... LAWKED.

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