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Offline Lieutenant_Q

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Treknology: Cargo Bays
« on: April 02, 2009, 11:07:24 pm »
Just what would be found in a typical Starship's Cargo Bays?  At any time from Pre-TOS to TNG.

Food and Water
Medical Supplies
Probes
Torpedo Casings
Spare Parts
Industrial Replicators
Food Replicators
Replication Material
Industrial Fabricators
Antimatter Storage Pods
Deuterium Storage Pods
Cargo Transporters

Can anyone add more to this list?
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Re: Treknology: Cargo Bays
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2009, 01:32:57 am »
Quote from: Lieutenant_Q on April 02, 2009, 11:07:24 pm
Just what would be found in a typical Starship's Cargo Bays?  At any time from Pre-TOS to TNG.

Food and Water
Medical Supplies
Probes
Torpedo Casings
Spare Parts
Industrial Replicators
Food Replicators
Replication Material
Industrial Fabricators
Antimatter Storage Pods
Deuterium Storage Pods
Cargo Transporters

Can anyone add more to this list?

Something I have wondered, why with replicators do you have to store food/water or any specific material.  Isn't that what replicators are to do, replicate whatever you need?  At most you would have to store misc matter so you have something to convert from one form to another with the replicators.
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Re: Treknology: Cargo Bays
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2009, 02:11:27 am »
Quote from: marstone on April 03, 2009, 01:32:57 am
Quote from: Lieutenant_Q on April 02, 2009, 11:07:24 pm
Just what would be found in a typical Starship's Cargo Bays?  At any time from Pre-TOS to TNG.

Food and Water
Medical Supplies
Probes
Torpedo Casings
Spare Parts
Industrial Replicators
Food Replicators
Replication Material
Industrial Fabricators
Antimatter Storage Pods
Deuterium Storage Pods
Cargo Transporters

Can anyone add more to this list?

Something I have wondered, why with replicators do you have to store food/water or any specific material.  Isn't that what replicators are to do, replicate whatever you need?  At most you would have to store misc matter so you have something to convert from one form to another with the replicators.

Simple answer, redundancy - what happens when your replicators are broke or your only have enough power to run essential systems.  You are going to be real grateful that you had those items on hand.
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Re: Treknology: Cargo Bays
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2009, 10:16:32 am »
True, but before the invention of the the Replicator, you do need those essentials.  Also, some items, such as Anti-matter, are difficult, if not impossible to replicate exactly.

Also, some items, such as Fabricators, became obsolete by Replicators
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Re: Treknology: Cargo Bays
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2009, 11:13:06 am »
Quote from: Lieutenant_Q on April 03, 2009, 10:16:32 am
True, but before the invention of the the Replicator, you do need those essentials.  Also, some items, such as Anti-matter, are difficult, if not impossible to replicate exactly.

Also, some items, such as Fabricators, became obsolete by Replicators

I imagine that in an emergency, the crew would use those general purpose items, while the replicators would be used for more specialized tasks.
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Re: Treknology: Cargo Bays
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2009, 12:00:56 pm »
One thing I noticed in the D-7 blueprints is that a lot of the secondary hull was just made up of "bulk matter storage."  At least the Klingons depended a great deal on fabricators and replicators for everyday items.  When reading a book on TOS, Rodenberry had meant that everything they used was replicated.  They noted a slight continuity error in one episode were Kirk ordered the cooks to reshape the meatloaf as turkeys for ThanksGiving.
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Re: Treknology: Cargo Bays
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2009, 05:37:20 pm »
Women!

I want my women to have corgo bays. That was the question, right?
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Re: Treknology: Cargo Bays
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2009, 07:22:25 am »
Quote from: Tulwar on April 03, 2009, 12:00:56 pm
One thing I noticed in the D-7 blueprints is that a lot of the secondary hull was just made up of "bulk matter storage."  At least the Klingons depended a great deal on fabricators and replicators for everyday items.  When reading a book on TOS, Rodenberry had meant that everything they used was replicated.  They noted a slight continuity error in one episode were Kirk ordered the cooks to reshape the meatloaf as turkeys for ThanksGiving.

Klingons had replicator technology first (the Federation version is an inferior pirated design) naturally their more advanced version would be used more. 
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Re: Treknology: Cargo Bays
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2009, 10:14:17 am »
Except that Klingons never used replicators for food, since its real hard to replicate LIVE food.  Replicated Gagh?  Don't be insulting.  Gagh is best when served live.

Klingons would have to have a ranch in their cargo bay. :)
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Re: Treknology: Cargo Bays
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2009, 10:32:34 am »
Quote from: toasty0 on April 03, 2009, 05:37:20 pm
Women!

I want my women to have corgo bays. That was the question, right?

You want your women to have cargo bays, or you want your cargo bays to have women?
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Re: Treknology: Cargo Bays
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2009, 11:01:49 am »
Quote from: Lieutenant_Q on April 04, 2009, 10:14:17 am
Except that Klingons never used replicators for food, since its real hard to replicate LIVE food.  Replicated Gagh?  Don't be insulting.  Gagh is best when served live.

Klingons would have to have a ranch in their cargo bay. :)

You're talking about TNG pseudo Klingons not the original TOS Klingons.   TNG Klingons are little more than cannon fodder. 
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Re: Treknology: Cargo Bays
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2009, 01:44:00 pm »
Quote from: Nemesis on April 04, 2009, 11:01:49 am
Quote from: Lieutenant_Q on April 04, 2009, 10:14:17 am
Except that Klingons never used replicators for food, since its real hard to replicate LIVE food.  Replicated Gagh?  Don't be insulting.  Gagh is best when served live.

Klingons would have to have a ranch in their cargo bay. :)

You're talking about TNG pseudo Klingons not the original TOS Klingons.   TNG Klingons are little more than cannon fodder.
Klingons probably used a transporter with a large buffer, so they could transport their food items and "store" them in the buffer, until needed to be eaten.
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Re: Treknology: Cargo Bays
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2009, 08:06:10 pm »
Also known as the Buffer Buffet!
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Re: Treknology: Cargo Bays
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2009, 04:28:11 am »
Quote from: marstone on April 04, 2009, 01:44:00 pm
Klingons probably used a transporter with a large buffer, so they could transport their food items and "store" them in the buffer, until needed to be eaten.

Which would of course show the superiority of Klingon technology.  The Federation cannot trust their transporter technology for storage of materials.   
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Re: Treknology: Cargo Bays
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2009, 10:58:07 am »
<Klingon>

Yes, any race that wears spandex and refers to it as a uniform should not be trusted with transport technology any more complicated than a two-wheeled dolly.

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Re: Treknology: Cargo Bays
« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2009, 06:42:54 pm »
Quote from: toasty0 on April 05, 2009, 10:58:07 am
<Klingon>

Yes, any race that wears spandex and refers to it as a uniform should not be trusted with transport technology any more complicated than a two-wheeled dolly.

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Klinks just don't want to wear spandex because it would reveal their shortcomings.
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Re: Treknology: Cargo Bays
« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2009, 07:00:04 pm »
Quote from: knightstorm on April 05, 2009, 06:42:54 pm
Klinks just don't want to wear spandex because it would reveal their shortcomings.

Spandex is not durable enough for battle.
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Re: Treknology: Cargo Bays
« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2009, 07:05:02 pm »
Quote from: Nemesis on April 05, 2009, 07:00:04 pm

Spandex is not durable enough for battle.

It provides greater freedom of movement.
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Re: Treknology: Cargo Bays
« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2009, 07:21:31 pm »
Quote from: knightstorm on April 05, 2009, 07:05:02 pm
Quote from: Nemesis on April 05, 2009, 07:00:04 pm

Spandex is not durable enough for battle.

It provides greater freedom of movement

I have noticed that it does allow the Feddies to run away quicker.
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Re: Treknology: Cargo Bays
« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2009, 07:29:00 pm »
Quote from: Nemesis on April 05, 2009, 07:21:31 pm

I have noticed that it does allow the Feddies to run away quicker.

Who wouldn't run if a Klingon woman was making eyes at them?
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