Topic: Federation FBB Request (Read 4954 times)

Chrystoff · « **on:** February 01, 2009, 03:37:04 pm »

Hi guys. I was wondering if one of the talented kit-bash specialists on this site would be willing to entertain a request. I'm an avid TMP era fan, and I've been using Fallen Warriors Belisarius Dreadnought (GaFY's retextured version), as my FBB. But I was wondering if someone would be willing to mate the primary hull/saucer from the Belisarius (just as it is, with the warp nacelle, 4 "megaphasers" and all) and use it to replace the primary hull saucer on the TMP-era Starleague. Both are available on Battleclinic with the Gotafarmyet white re-texture.

I know this is a bit of a fanboy request, so it's cool if no one likes the idea. I will not take offense. I just figured it couldn't hurt to ask.

DeepThought · « **Reply #1 on:** February 01, 2009, 04:06:40 pm »

I'll give it a whack. What do you want to call it? Name and registry?

-DT

Chrystoff · « **Reply #2 on:** February 01, 2009, 04:16:53 pm »

Thank you, DeepThought! After some deep thought (no pun intended), I like NCC-3600 Warhammer. Cheesey, but I dig it, lol. My FBB's in SFC-OP are renamed 3600 Wahammer, 3601 Warcry, 3602 Wardance, 3603 Warmonger, and 3604 Warcraft.

DeepThought · « **Reply #3 on:** February 01, 2009, 04:24:15 pm »

Quote from: Chrystoff on February 01, 2009, 04:16:53 pm

Thank you, DeepThought! After some deep thought (no pun intended), I like NCC-3600 Warhammer. Cheesey, but I dig it, lol. My FBB's in SFC-OP are renamed 3600 Wahammer, 3601 Warcry, 3602 Wardance, 3603 Warmonger, and 3604 Warcraft.

Long ago, in a different lifetime, I ran an old FASA Trek RPG adventure called "The Waraxe Incident"... so I'm cool with "Warhammer".

Do you know if the blanks for these textures are online anywhere? It would be handy but not critical.

--DT

Chrystoff · « **Reply #4 on:** February 01, 2009, 04:29:52 pm »

DeepThought, I just found these on Battleclinic: http://www.battleclinic.com/docks/dock/1461-Blank-Registries-for-P81-models-details.html#1461

They are blank Textures for P-81's TMP Enterprise, Reliant. and some of his other works. Hope that helps.

DeepThought · « **Reply #5 on:** February 01, 2009, 04:55:32 pm »

They might. If not, I can cope. Here's what I have so far... is this what you had in mind?

-DT

Chrystoff · « **Reply #6 on:** February 01, 2009, 05:21:02 pm »

DeepThought, that is right on the money! That is exactly what I'm after!

DeepThought · « **Reply #7 on:** February 01, 2009, 05:24:08 pm »

Excellent! I should have it done in about an hour.

-DT

DeepThought · « **Reply #8 on:** February 01, 2009, 06:18:37 pm »

She's done... and she's a big one! All zipped up she's about 13 MB. I'll e-mail you a link... can't post it on Battleclinic until I get all the readme's and permissions sorted out.

-DT

Chrystoff · « **Reply #9 on:** February 01, 2009, 06:27:31 pm »

That looks terrific! Thank you very much for bashing this model so fast, DeepThought. This is perfect as a battleship or heavy dreadnought.

I'm at chrystoff@yahoo.com

GotAFarmYet? · « **Reply #10 on:** February 01, 2009, 09:22:33 pm »

It is simply amazing how much mileage those old texture sets get.
Just to make it easy you don't need premission from me to us this texture set, they are in the free to use category.

Chrystoff · « **Reply #11 on:** February 02, 2009, 01:03:32 pm »

Quote from: GotAFarmYet? on February 01, 2009, 09:22:33 pm

It is simply amazing how much mileage those old texture sets get.

That's what you get for making such great looking textures, Man!

Dizzy · « **Reply #12 on:** February 05, 2009, 09:27:45 pm »

Quote from: GotAFarmYet? on February 01, 2009, 09:22:33 pm

It is simply amazing how much mileage those old texture sets get.
Just to make it easy you don't need premission from me to us this texture set, they are in the free to use category.

Textures are awesome!

Klingon Fanatic · « **Reply #13 on:** February 06, 2009, 11:25:34 am »

If you are going for the SFB FBB asthetic, shouldn't the saucer section have two warp engines? Perhaps one of the model kitbashers can alter the present model that one extra step?

Qapla'

KF

Centurus · « **Reply #14 on:** February 06, 2009, 02:51:20 pm »

Quote from: Klingon Fanatic on February 06, 2009, 11:25:34 am

If you are going for the SFB FBB asthetic, shouldn't the saucer section have two warp engines? Perhaps one of the model kitbashers can alter the present model that one extra step?

Qapla'

KF

There's already several kitbashes of that model available on Battleclinic that use GAFY's textures. Also, WZ made the Mars Refit, and I made my Mars kitbash of WZ parts that GAFY retextured.

Chrystoff · « **Reply #15 on:** February 06, 2009, 03:57:09 pm »

Quote from: Klingon Fanatic on February 06, 2009, 11:25:34 am

If you are going for the SFB FBB asthetic, shouldn't the saucer section have two warp engines? Perhaps one of the model kitbashers can alter the present model that one extra step?

Qapla'

KF

No, that wasn't the asthetic I was after. I just liked the idea of a Star League with a Miranda saucer and 3rd nacelle. I'm not a fan of 4 nacelled starships; I have no idea why. DeepThought did a great job on this one.

DeepThought · « **Reply #16 on:** February 06, 2009, 07:04:17 pm »

Quote from: Klingon Fanatic on February 06, 2009, 11:25:34 am

If you are going for the SFB FBB asthetic, shouldn't the saucer section have two warp engines? Perhaps one of the model kitbashers can alter the present model that one extra step?

Qapla'

KF

I could easily duplicate the center nacelle and put the new pair on the upper 'megaphaser' pylons. I should probably change the textures on their outer sides to the non-glowing intercoolers (or whatever they are). I wasn't in a hurry to get permissions and release this, but if someone likes, I can include the three and four nacelle versions in a release. Let me know.

Cheers,

-DT

Bernard Guignard · « **Reply #17 on:** February 07, 2009, 06:19:12 am »

Nicely done I'd use that as a DNH.

For the FBB I'd like to see a 4 warp engine version ala SFB.

Centurus · « **Reply #18 on:** February 07, 2009, 05:35:26 pm »

Quote from: Bernard Guignard on February 07, 2009, 06:19:12 am

Nicely done I'd use that as a DNH. For the FBB I'd like to see a 4 warp engine version ala SFB.

http://starfleetcommand3.filefront.com/file/USS_Mars;86588

http://www.battleclinic.com/docks/dock/1302-Ares-Class-Battleship-tmp--details.html#1302

http://www.battleclinic.com/docks/dock/1303-Mars-Class-Heavy-DN-TMP--details.html#1303

Klingon Fanatic · « **Reply #19 on:** February 07, 2009, 05:41:08 pm »

Quote from: F9thCenturus on February 07, 2009, 05:35:26 pm

Quote from: Bernard Guignard on February 07, 2009, 06:19:12 am
Nicely done I'd use that as a DNH. For the FBB I'd like to see a 4 warp engine version ala SFB.

http://starfleetcommand3.filefront.com/file/USS_Mars;86588

http://www.battleclinic.com/docks/dock/1302-Ares-Class-Battleship-tmp--details.html#1302

http://www.battleclinic.com/docks/dock/1303-Mars-Class-Heavy-DN-TMP--details.html#1303

Not exactly the same flathead target we're looking for but thanks anyway. We aren't really asking for a purist SFB inspired version.

Qapla'

KF

Centurus · « **Reply #20 on:** February 07, 2009, 06:08:34 pm »

Quote from: Klingon Fanatic on February 07, 2009, 05:41:08 pm

Quote from: F9thCenturus on February 07, 2009, 05:35:26 pm
Quote from: Bernard Guignard on February 07, 2009, 06:19:12 am
Nicely done I'd use that as a DNH. For the FBB I'd like to see a 4 warp engine version ala SFB.

http://starfleetcommand3.filefront.com/file/USS_Mars;86588

http://www.battleclinic.com/docks/dock/1302-Ares-Class-Battleship-tmp--details.html#1302

http://www.battleclinic.com/docks/dock/1303-Mars-Class-Heavy-DN-TMP--details.html#1303

Not exactly the same flathead target we're looking for but thanks anyway. We aren't really asking for a purist SFB inspired version.

Qapla'

KF

The links were only directed to Bernard, cause he said he wanted to see a 4 engine FBB.

Klingon Fanatic · « **Reply #21 on:** February 07, 2009, 06:11:26 pm »

Quote from: F9thCenturus on February 07, 2009, 06:08:34 pm

The links were only directed to Bernard, cause he said he wanted to see a 4 engine FBB.

Yet another fine, shining example of the best qualities of the SFC community.

My thanks as well for the links as they were worth having a second look at.

KF

Bernard Guignard · « **Reply #22 on:** February 08, 2009, 06:53:17 am »

Quote from: DeepThought on February 01, 2009, 06:18:37 pm

She's done... and she's a big one! All zipped up she's about 13 MB. I'll e-mail you a link... can't post it on Battleclinic until I get all the readme's and permissions sorted out.

-DT

I'd like to see a 4 engine version of this one would make a nice battleship I think even better if we stretch out the secondary hull a bit more

Panzergranate · « **Reply #23 on:** February 08, 2009, 09:41:30 am »

There is an Erik Kristianson design or two, that come close or fit the bill exactly, namely the Hatfield Class Command Cruiser, in the book "Ships of the Star Fleet Volume.I."

Chances are that Models Please has already created a model for it, as he has already covered 95% of that book already.

God only knows where he finds the time....

Chrystoff · « **Reply #24 on:** February 08, 2009, 12:08:09 pm »

You are right; ModelsPease did an excellent Hatfield. One change that needs to be done to it, though, is for the Miranda primary hull to be replaced with the Knox that ModelsPlease did. The Knox class is shorter, and just looks a bit cleaner. That's only my opinion, though. Also, the botanical section maps don't seem to work.

Panzergranate · « **Reply #25 on:** February 12, 2009, 12:23:10 pm »

A TMP Enterprise Class CH hull with a Knox saucer makes the Pittsburg Class heavy assault cruiser (CHA) from FASA's Star Trek game.

I made a model, for use in the LAN games here, last year, from the stock game ships, just to try out the concept.

There are quite a few existing "paper" concepts in books and on line, plus other posibilities for future designs, using the Knox or Darran shortened "D" shaped saucer.

Now a battle ship or CVM would be a logical progression on this design.... or maybe an SCS.

Isn't 3600 used by the Commanche Class FHA.... or is this where the donor saucer came from??

Chrystoff · « **Reply #26 on:** February 12, 2009, 03:58:48 pm »

Do you have any renders of the Pittsburg Class heavy assault cruiser? I'm curious as to what that looks like.

Panzergranate · « **Reply #27 on:** February 16, 2009, 02:02:45 pm »

I'll have to scan in the TOS version diagram I have somewhere.

Basically, it is a Connie with a Surya / Quillen "D" type saucer fitted.

Howevr, the nachelle supports are more like TMP Connie in size and similarity, with large flush vents.

I knocked up a rough TMP version to evalulate

The ship is classed as an Assuault or Commando Cruiser with the extra hangar bays being used for assault shuttles and similar landing craft.

We generally use the Pittsburgh as a Commando Cruiser, where it performs quite well in LAN games.

I kind of fills a large gap in the SFB fleet for this role very nicely.

The ship is registered as CHA 3794 USS Pittsburgh.

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