Topic: Funny how someones trying to pull some BS

[manitoba1073]

I got this in my email today.

 
from:  jbuchholz@rogers.com
 Greetings.
 
I noticed your site recently while checking my own site's searchability on some of the
larger search engines. My site is for the USS Tigershark Star Trek Fan/Fun club, which
I started bak in 1998. I have owned the name 'USS Tigershark' for some time, and have
recently switched the club's website to a new address: http://www.starshiptgershark.net.
 
While I hold no objection to your site in what way, the name 'USS Tigershark' must be
dropped from your site as soon as possible. Perhaps there is some way to rename
your ficitional ship, so it doesn't contrast or infringe on my property in any way.
 
When you fix this error, I won't bother you in any way hereafter.
 
Regards,
 
-J.Buchholz
Captain/President, USS Tigershark Fan Club

[Rod ONeal]

Exactly how are you supposedly infringing on his property?

You google USS Tigershark and his site is *9 out of 28,800 entries.

[manitoba1073]

who knows Rod. Thats the funny thing. But its funny him claiming he has rights on the name USS Tigershark. 

 Though I told him if he still had problems I could forward his concerns to paramount and that of the star trek franchise where I dont think he would like the result of it.

[Major A Payne]

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There are times when people just don't have a clue.

You made my day posting this mani. Thank muchly.

[intermech]

When you fix this error . . .

Ha ha, I am sure it was an error and you truly intended to name it the USS TIGGERSHARK. LOL

[Starforce2]

rotflmao. Isn't there an actualy naval vessel with that name as well (plus it is an animal, and I doubt anyone holds copyright over an actual tigershark) Hilarious. Post his reply, if you get one. This ought to be good.

[manitoba1073]

Thats up to you FW lol, but i havent gotten an email back from him yet. and his site isnt even spelled correctly for tigershark haha.

[atheorhaven]

Thinking about it, a lot of us have been playing this game longer than he's had his site up.  I'd say that that would make it interesting on a copyright suit, if you could do one, which you and he can't because you're using Paramounts material in a fan setting. 

Hmmm, now I'm seriously thinking of doing a B5 Whitestar kitbash and using Tigershark as a name for it.  >=)

[intermech]

Actually, I copyrighted the name years ago as depicted here in this hastily photo-shopped abstract representation of one of my ships from 1956. You are lucky I don't sue you and Captain J.Buchholz!

[Kreeargh]

I had the same issue 2 years ago my website was named "The Rat Pack"  and some guy that was the leader of a heavymetal band named The rat pack was complaining that we had nothing to do with music and he said "I am going to get my band name copyrighted you better find another website name or i will sue the hell out of you .  I thought  his email was quite funny. I replied i think Sinatra family would have a few ISSUES with your attempt to copyright that name good Luck.   

[Centurus]

This kinda reminds me of when the 11th Fleet Spartan Vanguard claimed they had a copyright on the name 11th Fleet, and threatened to sue Nanner and anyone else that sided with the 11th Fleet Rangers.

[Rod ONeal]

Does anyone else find this guys last name humorous? Buchholz reminds me of butt holes.

[KBF-Crim]

This kinda reminds me of when the 11th Fleet Spartan Vanguard claimed they had a copyright on the name 11th Fleet, and threatened to sue Nanner and anyone else that sided with the 11th Fleet Rangers.

No...we're the real 11th fleet...LMAO....The Watertiger Chronicles.....

[Centurus]

I wasn't around for when that stuff happened, but I did read some of the archives on the old 9th fleet forums before they shut down and we moved to our current forums.

Man, the SV were really full of it.  I also remember seeing W_T's karma when the karma system was still around.  His karma kept going down AFTER he stopped posting here on D.net.  I always chuckle still at that.

I'd really like to see this guy try something against Manitoba. 

[Starforce2]

Does anyone else find this guys last name humorous? Buchholz reminds me of butt holes.

Had a home economics teacher with that name in jr high. You can imagine..since it was jr high..the nasty variants passed around.

[manitoba1073]

 Another corespondance from him.

Mike,
 
I had hoped to come to a civil solution, but it seems you are quite ignorant of some facts:
 
- I own the name 'USS Tigershark', and the domain(s) that go with it, NOT Paramount.
- I have a disclaimer on my site that says the following:
 
STAR TREK is a trademark of Paramount Pictures Corporation registered in the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office. The USS TIGERSHARK in no way intends to infringe upon
copyrights held by Paramount Pictures Corporation or it's licensees, Babylonian Production, 20th Century FOX or any one or corporation that has not been mentioned.
Full credit is given to the known source of all information. "Star Trek," "Star Trek: The Next Generation, "Star Trek DS9", "Star Trek Voyager", "Star Trek: Insurrection,"
and all other "Star Trek"-related properties are (c) Paramount Pictures. Unless otherwise noted, all Star Trek pictures, and other media not created by me
(JASON BUCHHOLZ) are (c) Paramount Pictures, a subsidiary of Viacom, Inc. No other ownership is implied. This publication/website therefore, is of a non-profit nature
 
I am not selling anything, nor profiting from Star Trek or related material in any way.
I do however, as stated before, OWN COMPLETE RIGHTS to the name 'USS Tigershark' and the appropriate domain(s)
 
I don't want to have to use legal action against you in this matter, but if all else fails, I will.
 
I ask you one more time to change the name.
 
 
-J.Buchholz
President/Captain, USS Tigershark Star Trek Fan Club

[manitoba1073]

Another corespondance from him.

Mike,
 
I had hoped to come to a civil solution, but it seems you are quite ignorant of some facts:
 
- I own the name 'USS Tigershark', and the domain(s) that go with it, NOT Paramount.
- I have a disclaimer on my site that says the following:
 
STAR TREK is a trademark of Paramount Pictures Corporation registered in the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office. The USS TIGERSHARK in no way intends to infringe upon
copyrights held by Paramount Pictures Corporation or it's licensees, Babylonian Production, 20th Century FOX or any one or corporation that has not been mentioned.
Full credit is given to the known source of all information. "Star Trek," "Star Trek: The Next Generation, "Star Trek DS9", "Star Trek Voyager", "Star Trek: Insurrection,"
and all other "Star Trek"-related properties are (c) Paramount Pictures. Unless otherwise noted, all Star Trek pictures, and other media not created by me
(JASON BUCHHOLZ) are (c) Paramount Pictures, a subsidiary of Viacom, Inc. No other ownership is implied. This publication/website therefore, is of a non-profit nature
 
I am not selling anything, nor profiting from Star Trek or related material in any way.
I do however, as stated before, OWN COMPLETE RIGHTS to the name 'USS Tigershark' and the appropriate domain(s)
 
I don't want to have to use legal action against you in this matter, but if all else fails, I will.
 
I ask you one more time to change the name.
 
 
-J.Buchholz
President/Captain, USS Tigershark Star Trek Fan Club

 and my response was this

Mr. Buchholz



 Im afraid I was being civil with you. If you wish to try to continue this I'm afraid it will not go well for you. http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-protect.html  as apparently you do not know enough about copyright law. However I do not appreciate the threat you are trying to convey and I assure you my backing throughout the legal system and STar Trek franchises go back much farther than yours. All you have done is registered the name of USS Tigershark and and the domain name. You own the site that is called that but that is all.

[Nemesis]

Hopefully you have a current backup of your site as it is possible that he is working up to a DMCA take down notice to your hosting service (assuming it is hosted in the U.S.).  It wouldn't be the first time that people have falsely issued such notices and still had the take down happen. 

[Kreeargh]

Exactly how are you supposedly infringing on his property?

You google USS Tigershark and his site is *9 out of 28,800 entries.

Well i think he is one of those folks that agree with the happy birthday song law. I for one believes in the first amendment screw this guy! {several colorfull words children should not see}
Its #9 cause he probably paid for it to rank that high. With only 4 members cant believe theres that kind of traffic. Hell i bet this thread is giving him more web traffic than hes ever seen with that site. I guess its time for a battlestar called USS TIGERSHARK huh.   Edit post the file on battleclinic filefront and several other sites id like to see this guy take them all down!

[atheorhaven]

Easy fix, and he gives it to you..

"STAR TREK is a trademark of Paramount Pictures Corporation registered in the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office. The USS TIGERSHARK in no way intends to infringe upon
copyrights held by Paramount Pictures Corporation or it's licensees, Babylonian Production, 20th Century FOX or any one or corporation that has not been mentioned.
Full credit is given to the known source of all information. "Star Trek," "Star Trek: The Next Generation, "Star Trek DS9", "Star Trek Voyager", "Star Trek: Insurrection,"
and all other "Star Trek"-related properties are (c) Paramount Pictures. Unless otherwise noted, all Star Trek pictures, and other media not created by me
(JASON BUCHHOLZ) are (c) Paramount Pictures, a subsidiary of Viacom, Inc. No other ownership is implied. This publication/website therefore, is of a non-profit nature"

Now, if we check the license files for most of the meshes that are out there (probably including yours), you'll find something like this:

"Copyright notices:

Star Trek, Star Fleet Command, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, Star Trek: The Next Generation, Star Trek: Voyager
(and the various logo devices used in them) are copyright Paramount Pictures, as are the
characters, related images, and sound from the productions. "

These credits directly state that the work you're doing is a work of fiction for the game "Starfleet Command", and any implied rights are therefore Paramounts.  Seeing he agrees that unless he notes otherwise on his site, any media not created by him is Paramount, then he should be suing Paramount, not you.  And no other ownership of the name should be implied.  So, there's no reason why he should go after you for the "rights" to the name.. especially when those rights may actually belong to Allied Artists Pictures Corporation, attained when they released "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Atomic_Submarine". 

Also, here's his registry information for his website.

[whois.tucows.com]
Registrant:
 Contactprivacy.com
 96 Mowat Ave
 Toronto, ON M6K 3M1
 CA

 Domain name: STARSHIPTIGERSHARK.NET


 Administrative Contact:
    contactprivacy.com,   starshiptigershark.net@contactprivacy.com
    96 Mowat Ave
    Toronto, ON M6K 3M1
    CA
    +1.4165385457
 Technical Contact:
    contactprivacy.com,   starshiptigershark.net@contactprivacy.com
    96 Mowat Ave
    Toronto, ON M6K 3M1
    CA
    +1.4165385457


 Registration Service Provider:
    StartLogic, Inc., domreg@startlogic.com
    1-800-725-8064



 Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
 Record last updated on 15-Jan-2009.
 Record expires on 16-Jan-2010.
Record created on 16-Jan-2009.

 Registrar Domain Name Help Center:
    http://domainhelp.tucows.com

 Domain servers in listed order:
    NS2.STARTLOGIC.COM   
    NS1.STARTLOGIC.COM   

Also, from his own website:
"USS TIGERSHARK (c) 2009 Jason Buchholz"

If your ship was released before then (which it was, it was completed May 3rd, 2004), then your work precedes his claim.  As does the name of the ship from JAG, and the ship from "Below" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Below_(film))

Someone needs to tell the kiddy to get out of the pool.