Topic: Say hello to the USS Kelvin NCC - 0514 ( trek 11 spoiler image inside )

[Bernard Guignard]

Yo Don
  Pike is in  this movie  Pike will be played by actor Bruce Greenwood   

[Don Karnage]

but i read somewhere that it was kirk that was in command of the entreprise?

or is it both so they will show when pike was rescuing some one and get radiation and paralyze after that and kirk getting command of the enterprise?

since they show the enterprise in dry dock getting build or receiving some major refit?

[Rod ONeal]

but i read somewhere that it was kirk that was in command of the entreprise?

or is it both so they will show when pike was rescuing some one and get radiation and paralyze after that and kirk getting command of the enterprise?

since they show the enterprise in dry dock getting build or receiving some major refit?

Who's to say that they're going to stick with the original TOS story line for Pike? One would assume they are, but you can't be too sure with Trek. Nothing is sacred, anymore.

[Norsehound]

I just hope the story for this new trek is GOOD.

I'm fine if it doesn't conform to canon... afterall, I feel more loyalty to SFB's universe thru SFC than paramount's vision of events. If the new movie launches something I'm interested in, I'll support it.

However, if the new movie follows the trend of science fiction recently, it'll suck, and story will be sacrificed for over-the-top special effects. Hopefully the studio isn't cramming nTrek with tons of effects now...

[marstone]

tons of effects are great, look forward to that stuff.  But it has to support a good story.  Eye candy is nice but that isn't what sticks in your mind about it.  I don't hold my breath that the story will be good (they haven't been good for awhile now), but I will be going to see it to find out.

[markyd]

ok so firstly im a massive heroes fan too... so im gonna be expecting (sylar) aka spok to go around studying the brains of crewmates,

secondly... im not too hot on the way that ship looks...      but its early days yet and thanks for the link and heads up 

[Majestic]

As a 20-plus-year fan of Trek, I am ambivalent about the upcoming film. I can't help but question the motives of the studio/producers/director - it seems to me that dollar signs and self-importance seem to be driving this project, and not an appreciation of - or desire to resurrect - a once shining franchise.

But that's a whole other story.

So, regarding the U.S.S. Kelvin - from a "Treknological" standpoint, I do not think it was a wise decision to place the secondary hull above the plane of the primary hull (saucer). The position of the navigational deflector exposes the top side of the primary hull to projected radiation. In the event of a catastrophic failure, I could see a significant portion of the primary's top decks - and the bridge in particular - being destroyed.

[Wicked Zombie]

That's not any different than having the deflector below the saucer - if it were to blow up or it emits radiation (which hasn't ever really been stated before), then the bottom of the hull is blasted/irradiated just as thoroughly as the top would be.

If you ask me, I'd prefer having the thing over the bridge to keep all those pesky rocks and torpedoes from getting through...

[Norsehound]

If the Kelvin is a one-nacelle DD, then I guess you can throw out some of Roddenberry's rules he set up to block Franz Joseph's designs.

[marstone]

As a 20-plus-year fan of Trek, I am ambivalent about the upcoming film. I can't help but question the motives of the studio/producers/director - it seems to me that dollar signs and self-importance seem to be driving this project, and not an appreciation of - or desire to resurrect - a once shining franchise.

But that's a whole other story.

So, regarding the U.S.S. Kelvin - from a "Treknological" standpoint, I do not think it was a wise decision to place the secondary hull above the plane of the primary hull (saucer). The position of the navigational deflector exposes the top side of the primary hull to projected radiation. In the event of a catastrophic failure, I could see a significant portion of the primary's top decks - and the bridge in particular - being destroyed.

My take is it is a revamp of the series to bring in a new younger audience that will be around for another 30 years, us old folks are not the target market anymore so you have to make it shiny and new, lots of action, low on plot (it just gets in the way of action as you have to slow down to have a story).

[Majestic]

That's not any different than having the deflector below the saucer - if it were to blow up or it emits radiation (which hasn't ever really been stated before), then the bottom of the hull is blasted/irradiated just as thoroughly as the top would be.

If you ask me, I'd prefer having the thing over the bridge to keep all those pesky rocks and torpedoes from getting through...

Actually, the navigational deflector does emit radiation - it is this projection of radiation which deflects particles (thus preventing them from striking the hull).

Typically, the lower decks of the primary hull would not contain crew quarters, but rather cargo holds, laboratories, and sensor arrays. Crew quarters generally would be located on the upper decks. Thus, long term exposure would be minimized. Granted, the location of crew quarters might not make a difference in the event of a catastrophic failure, but there would still be the issue of prolonged and/or accidental exposure given the location of the deflector on the Kelvin. Of particular concern would be the exposure of the bridge to such radiation. Also, the navigational deflector is not capable of deflecting torpedo strikes - that would be the job of the force-fields (shields).

Incidentally - and this is totally out of left field, so don't take it too seriously - why the "Kelvin"? I imagine with a name like that, it would be a science vessel. If it was, and if we were to follow the characteristics of previous strarship design, I imagine the science suite would be contained in a hull all its own, with navigational sensor (and engines) as far away from the suite as possible.

[Atolm-Rising]

Kelvin because all of starfleets ships are explorers first, combatants second, as has been seen over and over again in the different shows.
even the late tng ships Ent-E, Akira, Defiant, etc are still fully equiped to do exploratory work.

BTW, you had the Freedom-class that was one nacelled before the Kelvin on screen wise

[Rod ONeal]

The deflector's emissions could be projected well in front of the ship. More like a spot light than a flood light

[Norsehound]

BTW, you had the Freedom-class that was one nacelled before the Kelvin on screen wise

I call that and raise you a Saladin-class destroyer on the monitors for the early trek movies. This was the first one-nacelle DD, long before TNG.