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WTF!!
« on: August 30, 2008, 05:07:18 am »
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/0828081underwear1.html
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Creepy Bra Thief Confesses
Wisconsin man admits to series of bizarre break-ins

AUGUST 28--A Wisconsin man who broke into a number of women's homes to steal their bras and underwear was charged Tuesday with five counts of felony burglary. According to an affidavit filed in Winnebago Circuit Court, Christopher Sullivan illegally entered the residences and took undergarments and photographs from at least five women. Later he would superimpose the women's images onto pictures taken from pornographic magazines and mail them to the women along with other creepy pictures that used Barbie dolls as props. Sullivan, 43, told officers from the Oshkosh Police Department that the mailings were "intended to scare his victims." One of his alleged victims received an envelope with two Polaroids, one with "three Barbie dolls upside down, naked with their heads cut off" and the other with the woman's head next to a decapitated Barbie and the message "your head will be cut off, skinned, boiled, baked, we will have your skull on our table of sacrifice" written next to the picture. During questioning, Sullivan told police he chose one of his victims, an upstairs neighbor, because "she and her boyfriend were having very loud sex" and that angered him. He admitted choosing another victim because she "caught his attention" while riding a lawnmower in a bikini. He also told police he would classify himself as a "sexual predator," but his religion prevented him from crossing the line into raping or murdering because that would be a "grave sin." In a search of his home, police turned up magazines and videos, at least one of which referenced Ted Bundy, as well as three headless Barbie dolls with metal rods through their knees. They also recovered a handwritten "confession" which included an admission that "Recently I sent some threatening letters to; did damage to some property; and stole from some people that made me angry and frustrated." Sullivan, pictured above in a Winnebago County Sheriff's Office mug shot, faces more than sixty years in prison if convicted on all of the charges. (9 pages)
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Re: WTF!!
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2008, 05:45:09 am »
big deal, he did not attack anyone and only stolen underwear.

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Re: WTF!!
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2008, 06:12:48 am »
big deal, he did not attack anyone and only stolen underwear.

He broke into women's houses, and sent them creepy letters which could be construed as death threats.

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Re: WTF!!
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2008, 06:43:42 am »
big deal, he did not attack anyone and only stolen underwear.

He broke into women's houses, and sent them creepy letters which could be construed as death threats.

Could be?

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"your head will be cut off, skinned, boiled, baked, we will have your skull on our table of sacrifice" written next to the picture.

It seems pretty plain to me it IS a threat to kill.  He may claim that it was intended to scare them but it was to scare them by threatening to kill them.

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He also told police he would classify himself as a "sexual predator," but his religion prevented him from crossing the line into raping or murdering because that would be a "grave sin."

Robbing and terrorizing women isn't a grave sin by his religion?  Doing so because he saw one wearing a bikini is justification by his religion?  It seems to me that he has been learning to justify his desires step by step.  How long before he justifies raping and killing?  Some time in maximum security might put the "fear of god" back into him and keep him from trying to live out his desires.
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Re: WTF!!
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2008, 07:31:08 am »
big deal, he did not attack anyone and only stolen underwear.

He broke into women's houses, and sent them creepy letters which could be construed as death threats.

Could be?

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"your head will be cut off, skinned, boiled, baked, we will have your skull on our table of sacrifice" written next to the picture.

It seems pretty plain to me it IS a threat to kill.  He may claim that it was intended to scare them but it was to scare them by threatening to kill them.

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He also told police he would classify himself as a "sexual predator," but his religion prevented him from crossing the line into raping or murdering because that would be a "grave sin."

Robbing and terrorizing women isn't a grave sin by his religion?  Doing so because he saw one wearing a bikini is justification by his religion?  It seems to me that he has been learning to justify his desires step by step.  How long before he justifies raping and killing?  Some time in maximum security might put the "fear of god" back into him and keep him from trying to live out his desires.

I said could be because he might try to argue that the letters were so ludicrous that they couldn't be reasonably perceived as a death threat.  Personally, I think this guy was a ticking time bomb, and I'm glad he was taken off the streets before his religion decided that it was okay to rape and kill the women.

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« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2008, 07:59:56 am »
I said could be because he might try to argue that the letters were so ludicrous that they couldn't be reasonably perceived as a death threat.  Personally, I think this guy was a ticking time bomb,

It would have been considered ludicrous to threaten to hijack 2 aircraft and fly them into the World Trade Center to destroy it just a few years ago.  Considering the way some murders have been committed I don't consider the threats ludicrous. 

and I'm glad he was taken off the streets before his religion decided that it was okay to rape and kill the women.

Modify this to "before he decides that his religion allows him to rape and kill the women." and I can agree.  I doubt that his Priest/Minister would agree.
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Re: WTF!!
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2008, 08:13:37 am »

It would have been considered ludicrous to threaten to hijack 2 aircraft and fly them into the World Trade Center to destroy it just a few years ago.  Considering the way some murders have been committed I don't consider the threats ludicrous. 


I'm not saying that I don't a serious threat, I'm just pointing out that that's probably what he will argue.


Modify this to "before he decides that his religion allows him to rape and kill the women." and I can agree.  I doubt that his Priest/Minister would agree.

When I say his religion, I'm referring to his personal religious beliefs not those of whichever denomination he may claim to subscribe to.

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« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2008, 07:01:12 am »

It would have been considered ludicrous to threaten to hijack 2 aircraft and fly them into the World Trade Center to destroy it just a few years ago.  Considering the way some murders have been committed I don't consider the threats ludicrous. 

I'm not saying that I don't a serious threat, I'm just pointing out that that's probably what he will argue.


Modify this to "before he decides that his religion allows him to rape and kill the women." and I can agree.  I doubt that his Priest/Minister would agree.

When I say his religion, I'm referring to his personal religious beliefs not those of whichever denomination he may claim to subscribe to.

So we are actually agreeing with one another?   :thumbsup:
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