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Re: Need some help on questions on a few star trek games please asap
« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2008, 12:43:42 am »
Is star trek legacy better on pc or xbox 360?

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Re: Need some help on questions on a few star trek games please asap
« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2008, 07:48:22 am »
Is star trek legacy better on pc or xbox 360?

It's more intuitive on the X-box but you can get used to it on the PC.  Biggest pain in the butt is you can't remap the control keys.   

it's an okay game with a decent single-player experience but no real re-play value.  if you can get it for $20 in the bargain bin it might be worth it.
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Re: Need some help on questions on a few star trek games please asap
« Reply #22 on: August 19, 2008, 07:49:52 am »
Which is better between sfc OP or sfc 3?


OP is the greatest game ever and SFC3 sucks big black donkey balls.


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Re: Need some help on questions on a few star trek games please asap
« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2008, 10:25:55 am »
What is the best mods to get for sfc 2 OP and sfc 3 that is most stable with least bugs,better graphics,better sounds,more ships ect.. ofr use in skirmish? Also is there one to add more ships onscreen fights at once instead of limited numbers?

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Re: Need some help on questions on a few star trek games please asap
« Reply #24 on: August 19, 2008, 12:00:48 pm »
What is the best mods to get for sfc 2 OP and sfc 3 that is most stable with least bugs,better graphics,better sounds,more ships ect.. ofr use in skirmish? Also is there one to add more ships onscreen fights at once instead of limited numbers?

For OP, the best looking mod right now would have to be the Hardcore mod that Pestalence is putting together.  A testing server is up right now to help sort out bugs in the new mission scripts.

For SFC3, Legion At War 5 is the newest mod.  Unity is alright, same with Island Wars.  GAW was a great one, along with Final Frontier.  However, GAW had some balance issues that were never really addressed, and it's been years since it's been touched or even had a server put up.

Depending on the mission scripts, the number of ships will vary for each mission.  However, the limit of 6 ships in skirmish and PvP is hardcoded into the game code, for SFC2/OP/3, and I believe for SFC1, but I have never played SFC1 online before, so I cannot say for certain.

In SFC1/2/OP, the game code allows you to command up to 3 ships, which you buy.  That's hardcoded, and can't be changed.  In SFC3, you only command one ship, but as you move across the campaign map, you have the opportunity to have some AI ships fleet up with you, but only 2 at a time, for a total of 3 ships you can command.
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Re: Need some help on questions on a few star trek games please asap
« Reply #25 on: August 19, 2008, 12:08:59 pm »
What is the best mods to get for sfc 2 OP and sfc 3 that is most stable with least bugs,better graphics,better sounds,more ships ect.. ofr use in skirmish? Also is there one to add more ships onscreen fights at once instead of limited numbers?


Top OP mods in my opinion:

FireSoul's OP+
Bonk's SFB-OP (On Dynaverse.net ftp)
Chris Jones' UAW
Dizzy/DieHard's SGO (various versions - e.g. SGO5, SGO6)
762/FireSoul's OP+ Hardcore

Granted, I'm a little biased in my ranking of SFB-OP ;)

SFC3? I never played it long enough to get into the mods.


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Re: Need some help on questions on a few star trek games please asap
« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2008, 12:33:54 pm »
For OP Firesoul's OP+ 4.0  (see Bonk's link above) is the defacto standard.   The SGO mod is actually a Mod of a Mod.  This game really shines in multi-player and for that you'll need OP+ 4 as this is what's used by everyone on GSA.
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Re: Need some help on questions on a few star trek games please asap
« Reply #27 on: August 19, 2008, 01:25:37 pm »
What is OP+ 4 as this is what's used by everyone on GSA? Op+4 and gsa?

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Re: Need some help on questions on a few star trek games please asap
« Reply #28 on: August 19, 2008, 01:26:30 pm »
Also how come on star trek legacy you can only use 4 ships for skirmish I think but in a video I saw someone with tons of ships fighting each other?

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Re: Need some help on questions on a few star trek games please asap
« Reply #30 on: August 19, 2008, 08:58:00 pm »
Also how come on star trek legacy you can only use 4 ships for skirmish I think but in a video I saw someone with tons of ships fighting each other?

The first day Legacy came out, 0mega had released a mod that boosts the number of ships per mission.  Now, pretty much everyone can have 4 teams, with 4 ships per team.  So basically you can have 16 ships total in a single mission.
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Re: Need some help on questions on a few star trek games please asap
« Reply #31 on: August 19, 2008, 10:24:25 pm »
Its called omega mod? If I use that can I still use other mods as well or only 1 mod?

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Re: Need some help on questions on a few star trek games please asap
« Reply #32 on: August 20, 2008, 02:01:48 am »
Its called omega mod? If I use that can I still use other mods as well or only 1 mod?

It's not called 0mega mod.  I forgot the file name of it, but it's on www.stlegacyfiles.com.  However, it's used in all major mods for Legacy such as UU and TLG.
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Re: Need some help on questions on a few star trek games please asap
« Reply #33 on: August 20, 2008, 05:38:38 am »
For Sfc3 unless youve played Legions at War 5 I guarantee you have no idea what the game is about. 6 years we have balanced it created human ai and our dynaverse is more stable than op. We can run dynaverse for years without crashes. Our balance pack goes way beyond the balance patch that was put out and we dont use  uber ships and have unique unreleased scripts and models. It is a hardcore server and takes practice to beat. we have a movie on you tube legions at war by gfloffkey. view it see what u think


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Re: Need some help on questions on a few star trek games please asap
« Reply #34 on: August 20, 2008, 04:04:38 pm »
I just got sfc 3 I was wondering what patch I should download and one that is ok for using iwth other mods?

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Re: Need some help on questions on a few star trek games please asap
« Reply #35 on: August 20, 2008, 04:43:01 pm »
Here is the proper patching instructions.. follow them exactly or the game may not work.

http://www.dynaverse.net/forum/index.php/topic,163382075.msg1122898386.html#msg1122898386

After following these instructions. you can then install any mod you like..

If you have problems after installing the Mod, then refer to the install instructions again and also the trouble shooting section of the install notes.

For Firewalls or Routers, refer to the SFC3 Readme v534.rtf file as well as the Gamespy Arcade web site in their help section for the proper ports to open. If you have a Router, do not use a Firewall (a router is a hardware firewall).

Hope that this helps.
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Re: Need some help on questions on a few star trek games please asap
« Reply #36 on: August 20, 2008, 07:00:00 pm »
Some mods still use the 531 patch, believe it or not.  And I think one uses the 534C Unofficial Patch.
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Re: Need some help on questions on a few star trek games please asap
« Reply #37 on: August 20, 2008, 07:49:52 pm »
The so called 534C patch, is not a patch, it is a mod of the patch.

the 534_B has the latest executable and support files where the 534C is modded spec files for the game and that is a Mod of the patch and should be labeled as such.

Anyhow, I have seen massive problems from people trying to use 534C as compared to using the last Taldren official patch 534_B.
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Re: Need some help on questions on a few star trek games please asap
« Reply #38 on: August 20, 2008, 08:37:27 pm »
The so called 534C patch, is not a patch, it is a mod of the patch.

the 534_B has the latest executable and support files where the 534C is modded spec files for the game and that is a Mod of the patch and should be labeled as such.

Anyhow, I have seen massive problems from people trying to use 534C as compared to using the last Taldren official patch 534_B.


Just stating that some people use it, and others use the 531 patch.  Most use the 534B, but it is wise to mention that although the 534B is the preferred patch, it's not the one that is always used throughout.
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Re: Need some help on questions on a few star trek games please asap
« Reply #39 on: August 21, 2008, 12:23:54 am »
For sfc 3 After the patch is done downloading a message comes up and says I dont have permission or something like that to use this? Can anyone help me please?