Topic: Need some help on questions on a few star trek games please asap

[chrisbcrunch]

1. Does anyone know which star trek game this video comes from and where you can download the mod? Queen Anne's Revenge vs. Starfleet Command   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6TF01w8-Ak

2. Does anyone know if star trek starfleet command orion pirates expansion has all the content from star trek starfleet command 2 empires at war or do I have to buy empires at war as well? I Know op is a stand alone expansion just wondering if its all new content or all from empires of war as well?

3. Which has better mods star trek starfleet command 2 or 3?

4. I am thinking on buying star trek legacy for the pc again. I bought it when it first came out but hated th controls and the way the ships were. Now that its been out for a while and they are more patches and mods, is there a fix now for controls and better graphics and things to make the game better and easier to play?

[Lieutenant_Q]

1.  It is SFC2, whether its EAW, or OP.  It's hard to tell.  Likely its OP.

2.  OP has all the content from EAW, the only thing its missing is the single player campaign, which is available for download here.

3.  That one is up for debate.

4.  The controls were hard coded and I don't believe there was any patch to fix the controls, or to allow for remapping.

[Roychipoqua_Mace]

1. It looks like the video is from either SFC2: Empires at War or SFC2: Orion Pirates.

2. Orion Pirates has basically everything from EAW, except the special campaign missions. You can download those for OP, though. Many more people play OP online nowadays, probably just because it was easier to mod. I would recommend Orion Pirates.

Ahh Lt. Q beat me to it! Good luck anyways.

[Centurus]

1.) That looks to be SFC OP.  Could be SFC2.  Can't really tell, but I'm betting it's OP.  What mod it is and where it is, I have no idea.  More than likely the ships were just added to the install manually by the person who made the vid.  Those Connies however look like WZ's Connies.

2.) The only thing OP doesn't have are the storyline missions from EAW.  Other than that, OP has everything EAW has and more.  This includes races and weapons.

3.) Depends on who you ask.  There's currently a hardcore testing server out right now for OP which is fairly good.  Same old shiplist that's been used for years, but the missions help spice things up a bit.  There are some good mods for SFC3, however not much is going on these days when it comes to the D3.  The GFL have released Legions At War 5, a Dynaverse 3 campaign.  Check it out.

If you're asking for ships though, there is an abundance of ships for SFC, all versions.  All versions use the same format.  SFC1 doesn't use lightmaps, and SFC2/OP and SFC3 have different hardpointing systems, but those are minor issues and ships can be ported to any version of SFC.

4.) Legacy, graphics wise, is a great game.  Other than that, it still doesn't have much else.  The major mods, such UU and TLG, do help the game quite a bit, and there are scripters for Legacy that continuously work to improve the game.  However, only one official patch was ever really released, and then support for the game from the developers pretty much ceased.

[Centurus]

P.S.

Got a closer look at that Queen Anne model.  That's WZ's Lethality, just slightly retextured.  Most likely for personal use, which is perfectly fine.  But chances are you are not going to find it for download.

[chrisbcrunch]

Everyone says op includes everything that empires of war has except single player missions. Does op include the same ships and things for skirmishes that were in empires of war? Also if the controls are no different since when the game first came out should I forgot about legacy?

[Centurus]

Everyone says op includes everything that empires of war has except single player missions. Does op include the same ships and things for skirmishes that were in empires of war? Also if the controls are no different since when the game first came out should I forgot about legacy?

OP has the same ships and I believe the same skirmishes as EAW.  I know OP has even more races, which means more ships.

If you have a good gamepad or joystick, especially one made in the past couple years or so, you can use the program that comes with the device to fly ships in Legacy. 

Most people use the wireless XBOX 360 controller for the PC to fly Legacy.

In the end, it's up to you.  If you want to play Legacy, just make sure your system can run it.  Other than that, it's purely choice.

Same goes for any game you play.

[chrisbcrunch]

1.I cant decide between sfc empires at war or OP.
2.The thing when I first got star trek legacy when first came out that I didnt like also was the fact the ships would blow up to fast and the damage wasnt that good. Do the mods fix all that
3.I noticed some peoples videos on youtube of legacy had a ton of ships on screen at once I thought you can only have like 4 ships on each side or something?

[Pestalence_XC]

1) Get Orion Pirates.. it is EAW.. more specifically, it is EAW expanded to include 8 additional Pirate races. Now if you are concerned about the missing Single Player campaigns, they are available for Orion Pirates via download.. and very easy to get.

2) From all reviews I have seen, I will not touch or even comment on Legacy.. Reports and reviews about the game are not favorable.. and that is coming from a relatively NEW game.. however Orion Pirates has had 8 years of replay ability for testimony about how the game is.. Orion Pirates strength is no in its single player campaign. but in Instant Action on Gamespy Arcade, or the Dynaverse when a major campaign takes off.

3) I don't know.. haven't tried it, and won't touch it.. Console game to PC usually sucks.. PC only games are usually much more intense.. I don't even own a console and never will.. I use console emulators on my PC and I get the game ROMS for free.. why waste money on a $500 Console system that will be out dated in 3 years, when my PC can upgrade over the next 8 to 10 years (and upgrades are usually under $100).. which is the better buy? Anyhow, Legacy.. just from game reviews I won't touch it.

[chrisbcrunch]

Which is better between sfc OP or sfc 3?

[knightstorm]

OP.  While the dynaverse in SFC3 is more refined, the gameplay is seriously dumbed down.  I'm not sure whether that's because the game was rushed, or because activision forced Taldren to make the game conform more closely to cannon.

[Centurus]

Which is better between sfc OP or sfc 3?

Depends on your point of view.  Both games have their advantages and disadvantages. 

[marstone]

Which is better between sfc OP or sfc 3?

toss up, depends on what you like.  If you have played SFB and like the rules then OP is the one for you, if you havn't or don't care either way for the rules, either may work, and if you dislike the SFB rules then sfc3 is the one for you.

[Roychipoqua_Mace]

I like Orion Pirates, but haven't tried SFC3 yet so I can't comment on how it is. However, you probably would have an easier time getting OP - on Amazon.com it's currently $12, whereas SFC3 is $60 (!). Apparently, SFC3 was recalled after it was released, and is rare.

I suggest getting Orion Pirates...even if you don't like it, it's much less of a risk for the cost. 

[FPF-DieHard]

Which is better between sfc OP or sfc 3?

OP is the greatest game ever and SFC3 sucks big black donkey balls.

[chrisbcrunch]

Will orion pirates work on windows xp?

[knightstorm]

Yes, it works fine on XP.   However you can't play on the dynaverse if you use vista.

[Centurus]

Which is better between sfc OP or sfc 3?

OP is the greatest game ever and SFC3 sucks big black donkey balls.

DH knows about sucking donkey balls.   

[knightstorm]

Which is better between sfc OP or sfc 3?

OP is the greatest game ever and SFC3 sucks big black donkey balls.

DH knows about sucking donkey balls.   

Are you sure you're not thinking of Chocolate Salty Balls?

[KBF-Crim]

Family friendly forum gentlemen...

[chrisbcrunch]

Is star trek legacy better on pc or xbox 360?

[FPF-DieHard]

Is star trek legacy better on pc or xbox 360?

It's more intuitive on the X-box but you can get used to it on the PC.  Biggest pain in the butt is you can't remap the control keys.   

it's an okay game with a decent single-player experience but no real re-play value.  if you can get it for $20 in the bargain bin it might be worth it.

[Centurus]

Which is better between sfc OP or sfc 3?

OP is the greatest game ever and SFC3 sucks big black donkey balls.

DH knows about sucking donkey balls.   

Are you sure you're not thinking of Chocolate Salty Balls?

Yep, quite sure.   

[chrisbcrunch]

What is the best mods to get for sfc 2 OP and sfc 3 that is most stable with least bugs,better graphics,better sounds,more ships ect.. ofr use in skirmish? Also is there one to add more ships onscreen fights at once instead of limited numbers?

[Centurus]

What is the best mods to get for sfc 2 OP and sfc 3 that is most stable with least bugs,better graphics,better sounds,more ships ect.. ofr use in skirmish? Also is there one to add more ships onscreen fights at once instead of limited numbers?

For OP, the best looking mod right now would have to be the Hardcore mod that Pestalence is putting together.  A testing server is up right now to help sort out bugs in the new mission scripts.

For SFC3, Legion At War 5 is the newest mod.  Unity is alright, same with Island Wars.  GAW was a great one, along with Final Frontier.  However, GAW had some balance issues that were never really addressed, and it's been years since it's been touched or even had a server put up.

Depending on the mission scripts, the number of ships will vary for each mission.  However, the limit of 6 ships in skirmish and PvP is hardcoded into the game code, for SFC2/OP/3, and I believe for SFC1, but I have never played SFC1 online before, so I cannot say for certain.

In SFC1/2/OP, the game code allows you to command up to 3 ships, which you buy.  That's hardcoded, and can't be changed.  In SFC3, you only command one ship, but as you move across the campaign map, you have the opportunity to have some AI ships fleet up with you, but only 2 at a time, for a total of 3 ships you can command.

[Bonk]

What is the best mods to get for sfc 2 OP and sfc 3 that is most stable with least bugs,better graphics,better sounds,more ships ect.. ofr use in skirmish? Also is there one to add more ships onscreen fights at once instead of limited numbers?

Top OP mods in my opinion:

FireSoul's OP+
Bonk's SFB-OP (On Dynaverse.net ftp)
Chris Jones' UAW
Dizzy/DieHard's SGO (various versions - e.g. SGO5, SGO6)
762/FireSoul's OP+ Hardcore

Granted, I'm a little biased in my ranking of SFB-OP

SFC3? I never played it long enough to get into the mods.

[FPF-DieHard]

For OP Firesoul's OP+ 4.0  (see Bonk's link above) is the defacto standard.   The SGO mod is actually a Mod of a Mod.  This game really shines in multi-player and for that you'll need OP+ 4 as this is what's used by everyone on GSA.

[chrisbcrunch]

What is OP+ 4 as this is what's used by everyone on GSA? Op+4 and gsa?

[chrisbcrunch]

Also how come on star trek legacy you can only use 4 ships for skirmish I think but in a video I saw someone with tons of ships fighting each other?

[FPF-DieHard]

What is OP+ 4 as this is what's used by everyone on GSA? Op+4 and gsa?

ftp://ftp.xenocorp.net/game_files/Star_Trek/starfleet_command/Starfleet_Command_OP/shiplists/opplus_40_models.exe

[Centurus]

Also how come on star trek legacy you can only use 4 ships for skirmish I think but in a video I saw someone with tons of ships fighting each other?

The first day Legacy came out, 0mega had released a mod that boosts the number of ships per mission.  Now, pretty much everyone can have 4 teams, with 4 ships per team.  So basically you can have 16 ships total in a single mission.

[chrisbcrunch]

Its called omega mod? If I use that can I still use other mods as well or only 1 mod?

[Centurus]

Its called omega mod? If I use that can I still use other mods as well or only 1 mod?

It's not called 0mega mod.  I forgot the file name of it, but it's on www.stlegacyfiles.com.  However, it's used in all major mods for Legacy such as UU and TLG.

[GFL Offkey]

For Sfc3 unless youve played Legions at War 5 I guarantee you have no idea what the game is about. 6 years we have balanced it created human ai and our dynaverse is more stable than op. We can run dynaverse for years without crashes. Our balance pack goes way beyond the balance patch that was put out and we dont use  uber ships and have unique unreleased scripts and models. It is a hardcore server and takes practice to beat. we have a movie on you tube legions at war by gfloffkey. view it see what u think

[chrisbcrunch]

I just got sfc 3 I was wondering what patch I should download and one that is ok for using iwth other mods?

[Pestalence_XC]

Here is the proper patching instructions.. follow them exactly or the game may not work.

http://www.dynaverse.net/forum/index.php/topic,163382075.msg1122898386.html#msg1122898386

After following these instructions. you can then install any mod you like..

If you have problems after installing the Mod, then refer to the install instructions again and also the trouble shooting section of the install notes.

For Firewalls or Routers, refer to the SFC3 Readme v534.rtf file as well as the Gamespy Arcade web site in their help section for the proper ports to open. If you have a Router, do not use a Firewall (a router is a hardware firewall).

Hope that this helps.

[Centurus]

Some mods still use the 531 patch, believe it or not.  And I think one uses the 534C Unofficial Patch.

[Pestalence_XC]

The so called 534C patch, is not a patch, it is a mod of the patch.

the 534_B has the latest executable and support files where the 534C is modded spec files for the game and that is a Mod of the patch and should be labeled as such.

Anyhow, I have seen massive problems from people trying to use 534C as compared to using the last Taldren official patch 534_B.

[Centurus]

The so called 534C patch, is not a patch, it is a mod of the patch.

the 534_B has the latest executable and support files where the 534C is modded spec files for the game and that is a Mod of the patch and should be labeled as such.

Anyhow, I have seen massive problems from people trying to use 534C as compared to using the last Taldren official patch 534_B.

Just stating that some people use it, and others use the 531 patch.  Most use the 534B, but it is wise to mention that although the 534B is the preferred patch, it's not the one that is always used throughout.

[chrisbcrunch]

For sfc 3 After the patch is done downloading a message comes up and says I dont have permission or something like that to use this? Can anyone help me please?

[GFL Offkey]

which patch did you use. also here is a patch and mod all in one.
www.gfluniverse.org/lawbeta/AzkadillaSFC3Installer.exe
make sure before loading you right click on sfc3 icon on desktop and go to properties and diable visual themes and advanced text services.

the above file is 534b patch directory service updater and Legions at war 5 mod. There is a utility included where you can turn it on and off from stock game to mod.

[GFL Offkey]

Are you logged into your pc as administrator? If not downloads may not be accessed if you are logged on to pc with different account.

[chrisbcrunch]

I disabled those two things you said and it still did not work. I am not a administrator. I have downloaded alot of other things before and only this says that. After its done downloading this is what it says access is denied, make sure the disk is not full or write protected and that the file is not currently in use. All my virus scanners and other things like that are turned off as well. Its the b patch from the link above I used and I tried other sites and still same thing?

[Pestalence_XC]

Make sure that your copy of the game is legitimate.. You will not be able to join Dynaverse Servers if you are using a Pirated copy of the game or a cracked exe file or a cd key that belongs to someone else..

CD keys are CRC check for duplication / server reject / missing when the game attempts to contact the Dynaverse server. If the key is already been used on 1 server, you will be blocked from all servers until the server using the duplicate key has the database wiped (campaign reset).

Your copy should be purchased from Amazon and that the package states Unopened so that you can be reasonably sure the cd key is legitimate.

Dynaverse.net will not support a Pirated copy of the game.. a legitimate purchase from Amazon or Ebay is just fine.. however since you stated download, further support will only be given with information from the game CD label.

Please post the numbers shown on the outer rim of the CD after the Copywrite notice for further game support.

[chrisbcrunch]

I found out it was my anti virus even tho I didnt have it turned on it still wouldnt let me install the patch. Now I took it out and the patch works great.

[chrisbcrunch]

Now I need to figure which mod is best to use with sfc3.

[chrisbcrunch]

Can I install multiple mods or will that not work?

[GFL Offkey]

I can get you a mod switcher program one of our members developed it works great. This will give you the option of installing multible mods. visit www.gfluniverse.org and post in starfleet forums so we can get u files.