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Offline Dizzy

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Re: Busy Busy FoaS
« Reply #740 on: November 10, 2009, 12:47:01 am »
Quote from: Furyofaseraph on November 09, 2009, 02:37:43 pm


Besides, you don't have to use my models, if you think it will slow you down...

Righto, but I so do wanna use em. Theys bad ass models. But I went ballistic on Adonis because he creates this eye candy ship no one in their right mind should ever take on to a D2 server... but fails to mention to anyone a warning that doing so isnt wise. Why should he?

Here's the problem. A lot of unsuspecting players D/L these models (the high poly/big texture) and never know why they are lagging and causing oos games in multi. The onus should be on the modeler in the readme file AND in the release post where the D/L link is explaining just how friendly or not it is in missions with tons of fighters, PF's and drones. To me, the modelers that make high texture high poly models arent helping the D2/GSA community when there arnt warnings about using them. A lot of end users are pretty niave. /rant off. ;)

Nice models btw.  :D (braces for a beating)
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Re: Busy Busy FoaS
« Reply #741 on: November 10, 2009, 08:30:28 am »
A players naivete is not my problem - I just make pretty things. I shouldn't have to go out of my way to compensate for the naive player. I do the best I can with what I have until I am satisfied with it. Beyond that? everything else is secondary.

I appreciate the point you are making, though.
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Re: Busy Busy FoaS
« Reply #742 on: November 10, 2009, 01:18:47 pm »
Maybe D2 should stick to stock models then ... or maybe even 2d counters?
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Re: Busy Busy FoaS
« Reply #743 on: November 10, 2009, 01:23:33 pm »
LOL - I was thinking that exact thing this morning, mudd >.<
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Re: Busy Busy FoaS
« Reply #744 on: November 10, 2009, 01:51:31 pm »
Quote from: I, Mudd. on November 10, 2009, 01:18:47 pm
Maybe D2 should stick to stock models then ... or maybe even 2d counters?

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Re: Busy Busy FoaS
« Reply #745 on: November 10, 2009, 02:14:29 pm »
I think KF was right about the Mirak being too blocky - here's a retry


or with proper smoothing groups
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Re: Busy Busy FoaS
« Reply #746 on: November 10, 2009, 02:22:29 pm »
ugh, with the 'hatted head' convention cemented into my Star Trek knowledge from the Cardassians and the Klinks... :\ I have to point out that feature on your Kzin. Might make sense in taking stuff from the Klingons made the Kzin where they are...

though, speaking of borrowing...

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The Warps look to " Federation" in my opinion but the rest looks damn good

You could say that the Kzinti acquired modern warp engine technology in their alliance with the Federation, replacing the older-and-slower models they've been using against the other powers. That's why Romulan BOP engines look like the Enterprise's after all, a cut line of dialogue from the asteroid base commander suggests espionage on the part of the romulans to get the drive. It's not canon, but I thought it fit nicely.
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Re: Busy Busy FoaS
« Reply #747 on: November 10, 2009, 02:25:26 pm »
Bear in mind that only the FF will have the "hat-head". The larger ships will have the Iron head like the Taldren designers. Consider the SFB frigate design. Don't worry, this design will fit in completely with the the new Mirak fleet. I just wanted to have something slightly different from the standard SFB-itis (ie: bashing around stuff and calling it good).


I've already kicked the Federation-like nacelles in favor of something else. Atolm gave me a few pointers.
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Re: Busy Busy FoaS
« Reply #748 on: November 10, 2009, 02:27:11 pm »
Off to a good start. No blocky grooved/indented warp engines please.

Also Sbloyd [sp?] had some interesting Mirak designs. Unfortunately, I don't have a link handy.

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Re: Busy Busy FoaS
« Reply #749 on: November 10, 2009, 02:32:03 pm »
I know of Sbloyd's designs, and I am not a fan of them, either.

I need to chew on the warps a bit more before I post the completed idea.
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Re: Busy Busy FoaS (Mirak/Kzinti)
« Reply #750 on: November 10, 2009, 04:16:15 pm »


Atolmian-style nacelles

EDIT: Alternate view, and I added a cut-out to the missle pod struts

« Last Edit: November 10, 2009, 04:39:44 pm by Furyofaseraph »
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Re: Busy Busy FoaS (Mirak/Kzinti)
« Reply #751 on: November 10, 2009, 05:03:21 pm »
I added some - hard to see in that render, though
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Re: Busy Busy FoaS (Mirak/Kzinti)
« Reply #752 on: November 10, 2009, 05:16:15 pm »
Quote from: Fallen_Warrior on November 10, 2009, 04:33:01 pm
These nacelles work nicely
Maybe some detailing on the missile pods?

Those can be a good red ant fleet.  As for the detailing on the missile pods, textures would probably be better then increasing the mess detail.
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Re: Busy Busy FoaS (Mirak/Kzinti)
« Reply #753 on: November 11, 2009, 12:45:33 am »
Okay, here's the deal. The ship that I just showed in my last post is now the Mirak DD, not the FF. That's because I just started on the new FF model. It's going to take cues from the ENT concept, but will fit in smoothly with where I am going with it.



second view, from the top.


Obviously this is just the head of the craft.
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Re: Busy Busy FoaS (Mirak/Kzinti)
« Reply #754 on: November 11, 2009, 01:00:43 am »
Frigate and DD together



Top-down view
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Re: Busy Busy FoaS (Mirak/Kzinti)
« Reply #755 on: November 11, 2009, 06:34:31 am »
They remind me too much of Cardacians.
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Re: Busy Busy FoaS (Mirak/Kzinti)
« Reply #756 on: November 11, 2009, 11:17:27 am »
They won't when I am done with them
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Re: Busy Busy FoaS (Mirak/Kzinti)
« Reply #757 on: November 11, 2009, 11:23:41 am »
Nice start mate.
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Re: Busy Busy FoaS (Mirak/Kzinti)
« Reply #758 on: November 11, 2009, 11:53:44 am »
Quote from: Fallen_Warrior on November 11, 2009, 11:23:20 am
these dont look cardassian at all
Eh, you figure that back at in Kirk's time, the Cards didn't have the technology to shrink their warp engine nacells down to nothing, their ships would have looked very different from the DS9 ships.  I'm still kind of fond of Taldren's origional concept for the Kzin (I mean Mirak.)  I would love to see some retro Cards.

Still, Fury is amazing!  It's not just the quanty of ships, but the quality is there as well.  Some modelers will tweak the Hades out of their pet model, whether anyone appreciates it or not.  Fury seems to be able to knock out an entire game's worth of models in no time, and all of them presentable.  If Fury doesn't work for a software developer, then there is a developer that is missing out on some serious talent!
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Re: Busy Busy FoaS (Mirak/Kzinti)
« Reply #759 on: November 11, 2009, 12:01:25 pm »
Thanks Tulwar, very flattering - Now if only bethesda would realize that ;).

BTW - I only see a slight cardie/klingon resemblence in that one ship. I maintain that it is a happy coincidence, a happy coincidence that I saw in the SFB Frigate Miniature.

Atolm has made a set of Retro-Cardassians, which is in the queue somewhere for me to texture
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