Topic: Hints of 'time before Big Bang'

[Spartan-039]

How am I supposed to know? I spend my time learning combat techniques, not learning about "the Fonz", and what's with the rubber chicken and who's Gary Coleman?

[Panzergranate]

There are those theorists that belive that God lit the fuse, for the big bang, with a match, and those who reckon he used a lighter....

If we can find the spent match then this will settle one theory.

 

[Spartan-039]

Well, when you climb the mountain of truth, you'll see that the Baptists were sitting there the whole time. * pointing at himself and other Baptists alike*

[knightstorm]

Well, when you climb the mountain of truth, you'll see that the Baptists were sitting there the whole time. * pointing at himself and other Baptists alike*

If you're going to start arguing that the viewpoints of your denomination are more truthful than those of other Christian denominations, or other religions in general, then you should stick to H&S.

[Centurus]

*smacks Spartan-039 and sends him to Michael Jackson*

[Spartan-039]

I'm not trying to argue points in denomination, beshides, I'm too young for H&S, I'm only 15.

[Nemesis]

I'm not trying to argue points in denomination, beshides, I'm too young for H&S, I'm only 15.

You are trying to make assertions of the superiour viewpoint of one religion in what is otherwise a SCIENTIFIC topic.  Religion has no place in this discussion.  Keep it out.

If you are too young for Hot and Spicy, too bad.  The rules still apply to you.  Continuing to try and bring Hot and Spicy topics such as religion or politics into other forums can get you banned.  Permanently banned.  So stay within the rules.

[Spartan-039]

Ok, but show me a very convincing piece of evidence supporting the Big Bang theory and I may begin to belive it, but I know that there's nothing like that anywhere in the world. Show me that evidence, and I'll renounce everything I've ever belived.

[knightstorm]

Ok, but show me a very convincing piece of evidence supporting the Big Bang theory and I may begin to belive it, but I know that there's nothing like that anywhere in the world. Show me that evidence, and I'll renounce everything I've ever belived.

Cosmic background radiation, the fact that red shifts show that most of the universe is moving away from us, supporting the belief in an expanding universe.

[Spartan-039]

So, it may be moving on it's own, not because of a bang.

[knightstorm]

So, it may be moving on it's own, not because of a bang.

notice how you didn't address the cosmic background radiation.  If the universe is expanding now, then its reasonable to assume that it had a starting point.  That point is the big bang.

[Spartan-039]

Who knows what that's from, until you build a time machine to prove t, I consider it false. So, anything else you want to try to convince me?

[knightstorm]

Who knows what that's from, until you build a time machine to prove t, I consider it false. So, anything else you want to try to convince me?

Like the horn antennae which first detected the cosmic background radiation which is left over from the big bang?  Or the Cosmic Background Explorer (COBE) satellite, which mapped it out? 

[Spartan-039]

They are still showing the same dang thing, another one not conserning radiation.

[knightstorm]

They are still showing the same dang thing, another one not conserning radiation.

Now your changing the rules.  You said until a device was invented that proved the big bang.

[Spartan-039]

I never said a device, I said evidence, not a device.

[knightstorm]

I never said a device, I said evidence, not a device.

You still haven't come up with an explanation for the Cosmic Background radiation other than the big bang.

[Spartan-039]

I've been contemplating that right now, also talking to a few ex-military people.

[Centurus]

Spartan, can you give concrete, irrefutable, 100% definitive evidence to disprove the Big Bang?  If so, share it.  But, keep in mind, it must be as concrete as the evidence you demand everyone here to prove the theory of the Big Bang.

If you cannot, then don't be surprised if people continuously dissect your comments and show you that your arguements have less merit and substance than others.

[Spartan-039]

I have none, but I don't dwell on it because I've got better things to do than worry about it. But if you want to say it's true povide enough evidence to indesputably prove it.