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ATOK 4 Kills
« on: June 03, 2008, 12:52:37 am »
Ternado,s d6db kills Dawg,s cld
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Re: ATOK4 Coalition Kills
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2008, 12:59:35 am »
Homer fed CS, Corbo isc CAW, Dax isc CAW, destroy Ternados' d6db.  Kreug and Lepton disengage in their hydran LBs.  GG gents.
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Re: ATOK4 Coalition Kills
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2008, 10:42:16 am »
Homer fed CS, Corbo isc CAW, Dax isc CAW, destroy Ternados' d6db.  Kreug and Lepton disengage in their hydran LBs.  GG gents.

Did both teams here violate the fleeting rules or do the CAWs and LBs count as command cruisers??


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Re: ATOK4 Coalition Kills
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2008, 10:55:43 am »
Homer fed CS, Corbo isc CAW, Dax isc CAW, destroy Ternados' d6db.  Kreug and Lepton disengage in their hydran LBs.  GG gents.

Did both teams here violate the fleeting rules or do the CAWs and LBs count as command cruisers??

Neither team violated the rules.   LBs are command cruisers and can fly with anybody at any time.  One side had 2 CAs and a "Specialty" F-CS+ (Cheesy bastard), the other has 2 Command Cruisers and a Droner. 

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- No Capital Ships are allowed to fly together.  Capital ships are: all BCH, DN, & BB hulls, CVDs (16 fighter CA carriers), and CA-hulled X-ships.

- In a Three player fleet, one of the three must be in a line or command cruiser class ship.  A line ship is defined as any ship that is not a command or special class type ship, vanilla in other words.

- Only one Mauler, Carrier, Capital and Fast ship per fleet.  "Multi-Classed" ships, ie, those that fit 2 or more of the restricted roles, count as the one allowed version of any/all roles it fills (so a BCV / BCS / CVA fills the Capital & carrier slots, Mauler DNs are capital & mauler, DNLs are capital & fast, DVLs are capital, fast, and carrier, etc.)

- Only 3 PPDs per fleet unless all PPDs are on the same ship.  (This was Jahkle’s rule from PBR, the 1 PPD-ship rule is too restrictive).
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2008, 12:22:24 pm »
Thanks for the clarification.


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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2008, 07:22:14 pm »
Wraiths F CC+ is destroyed by MuadDibs K-FD7

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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2008, 12:44:15 pm »
Around noon eastern, 1 friday in 2268, Earls' gorn CC+is destroyed by Dax' Kzinti CD+ .  GG.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2008, 03:29:52 pm »
around 2628.199 marstone in a D6D and H1AF deadman in a LB meet and destroyed FVA_Braxton_KFC in a legendary CAPL in an asteroid field.  It was a long run battle that was well flown.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2008, 04:39:05 pm »
around 2628.199 marstone in a D6D and H1AF deadman in a LB meet and destroyed FVA_Braxton_KFC in a legendary CAPL in an asteroid field.  It was a long run battle that was well flown.

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Wow...Nicely Done gents, an outstanding Kill!  ;D
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2008, 05:09:58 pm »
My"friend" Chairman Meow in a Z-DF+ encountered Hunter and Marstone both in K-D6DB ships.  With the help of a really big rock, both klingons were destroyed.

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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2008, 05:42:32 pm »
 :o
Wow...nicely done! Outstanding kills! ;D
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2008, 05:52:59 pm »
Two kills to post.

Wraith and Mutt (Alliance) killed Deadman H-LB. for 2 points.

Pesty (F-DNL) and Brax (F-CS+) kill Soth (H-LB) for 2 points.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2008, 09:18:31 pm »
Not sure if this is worth points or not but...

Magnus' D7T was captured by Mutt's DWLP in a fun hard fought battle. GG Sir.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2008, 11:27:04 pm »
My"friend" Chairman Meow in a Z-DF+ encountered Hunter and Marstone both in K-D6DB ships.  With the help of a really big rock, both klingons were destroyed.

6 Kitty points

Forgive the unnecessary post.. but well done Mr Meow  :o
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2008, 12:49:56 pm »
Homer's F-DNL
Corbomite's  I-CAP

Engaged

Kaz's  H-LB
Dib's  K-C5K

The coalition's DN withdrew in an even-numbered engagement.  5 Kitty points.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2008, 02:24:44 pm »
Homer (F-DNL), Braxton (F-CS+), Corbomite (I-CAP) destroy Ternado (K-D7L), Soth (K-D5K), Kaz (H-LB) for 5 Kitty points.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2008, 07:00:03 pm »
Cut off for counting.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2008, 12:12:22 am »
KBFKaz's D5D destroyed Pestalence_XO's DF+

3 pts for the Coalition

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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2008, 03:09:12 pm »
kurok in a d5d destroys Zeno in a F-CF if i read correctly 3 points for the good guys
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2008, 03:19:21 pm »
Kurok in a d5d kills Zeno in a F-DE 3 more points

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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2008, 03:26:13 pm »
kurok in a d5d destroys Zeno in a F-CF if i read correctly 2 points for the good guys

3 Points, Specialty ship.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2008, 03:32:41 pm »
kurok in a d5d kills Zeno in a F-DE again 3 points

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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2008, 03:48:10 pm »
Will someone please have the courtesy to explain the rules to this guy or just get him off the f#@!ing server!  >:(

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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2008, 06:35:42 pm »
Will someone please have the courtesy to explain the rules to this guy or just get him off the f#@!ing server!  >:(

I did have a conversation with him and explained the disengagement rules carefully, I also strongly suggested he read over all the rules in general so no more mistakes are made.
He said he would.
That was about 5 min ago, so let's see how he does.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2008, 08:06:34 pm »
Homer's F-DNL J'inned Fafaerer's R-SUA for 2 Kitty points.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #25 on: June 11, 2008, 08:28:26 pm »
Homer's F-DNL engaged Fartfarer's H-UH and Crims K-C8K.  The UH's paper-thin hull was not match for Overload peels and went boom.  The C8K disengaged. 

Killed Specialty ship (3 Points) + DN disengament (5 points) = 8 Kitty VC points.

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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #26 on: June 11, 2008, 09:21:07 pm »
Kaz's H-DE J'inned itself when trying to disengage from Homer's F-DNL.   Since all matter is in play, I'm still claiming this kill for 3 Kitty VC points.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #27 on: June 11, 2008, 09:45:43 pm »
Don't you have to go to work early or something...?  :skeptic:
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I'll tell ya good job, but...well, you know... ;)
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #28 on: June 11, 2008, 10:05:46 pm »
I don't have to be to work for 9 more hours .  . .

Changed Cheezy DNs to an F-CVA.  Encountered TYRANTs G-BF and killed it for 3 more Kitty VC points.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2008, 04:56:11 pm »
It ain't easy bein cheezy.   Homer's F-NCD+ kills Magnus's K-D6D.

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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2008, 10:39:00 pm »
Pesty_XC's F-DNL chased off Leto's R-SHR

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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #31 on: June 13, 2008, 12:00:22 am »
Soths K-D5D chips away at Wraiths  F-CS+ while he kills half my crew with phasers and photons but his hull breached when he tried to escape GG

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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #32 on: June 13, 2008, 11:48:15 pm »
Ternado,s D5D kills Braxton,s Cay

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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #33 on: June 14, 2008, 07:17:41 am »
Blazinbud's R-KE was destroyed by Corbomite's I-CV. 2 Kitty points.

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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #34 on: June 14, 2008, 12:47:37 pm »
Soth's H-LNHM2 trade volleys for a bit then captures Zeno's F-NCL+  GG
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #35 on: June 14, 2008, 01:23:24 pm »
Soth's H-LNHM2 trade volleys for a bit then captures Zeno's F-NCL+  GG

A good job, unfortunately, worth no points because he was alone and in a line ship with less than a 1 movement cost.  ;)
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #36 on: June 14, 2008, 03:33:55 pm »
Thelev's F-NEC destroys Soth's H-LNHM2. I think that counts as a Commando ship and therefore specialty.

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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #37 on: June 14, 2008, 03:50:04 pm »
Dax' Kzinti CD+ destroysSoths' H-LNH something or other. I didn't pay attention to the variant, not realising it could be a specialty ship.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #38 on: June 14, 2008, 04:57:16 pm »
Walleye's L-STJ kills Ternado's K-D5D

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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #39 on: June 14, 2008, 06:14:54 pm »
Zeno's NCD destroys Magnus' D6-b for 3 points.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #40 on: June 14, 2008, 11:07:51 pm »
Thelev's F-DVL destroys Dib's G-DND. 10 Kitty points. Vgg Dib!

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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #41 on: June 15, 2008, 12:10:22 am »
Wraiths  CCY was lost to KBF Soths  SPF+ and KBF MuadDibs  DWE
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #42 on: June 15, 2008, 03:14:05 am »
Hroth learned not to castle against a Gorn carrier.  Scratch one L-CWPP to my G-CV

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« Reply #43 on: June 15, 2008, 08:39:50 am »
Hroth learned not to castle against a Gorn carrier.  Scratch one L-CWPP to my G-CV

Unfortunately, I don't think thats worth anything.

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« Reply #44 on: June 15, 2008, 12:03:04 pm »
Hroth learned not to castle against a Gorn carrier.  Scratch one L-CWPP to my G-CV

Unfortunately, I don't think thats worth anything.

That's why I didn't put any vc points.  I'm not stupid, you just think I am.  It's part of my cover so you'll chase my plasma chucker.

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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #45 on: June 15, 2008, 12:42:29 pm »
I think the ww should be called the "suicide shuttle."  I just had to remind myself why I never use them.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #46 on: June 15, 2008, 01:43:41 pm »
Zenos NEC defeats KBF MuadDibs DWE in a classic kill where 2 tracks could hold 2 drones...but that third knocked the other two out...

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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #47 on: June 15, 2008, 03:01:58 pm »
Hroth learned not to castle against a Gorn carrier.  Scratch one L-CWPP to my G-CV

Unfortunately, I don't think thats worth anything.

That's why I didn't put any vc points.  I'm not stupid, you just think I am.  It's part of my cover so you'll chase my plasma chucker.

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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #48 on: June 15, 2008, 03:02:24 pm »
Farfarer K-D5D & Graakna K-D5L ran down and destroyed Zeno in his F-CF

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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #49 on: June 15, 2008, 07:04:09 pm »
Cut-off for scoring
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #50 on: June 16, 2008, 05:27:11 pm »
Just to let you know my deaths in the H-LNHM2 aren't worth any points as it is a line ship noted in the list .
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #51 on: June 16, 2008, 05:28:19 pm »
Just to let you know my deaths in the H-LNHM2 aren't worth any points as it is a line ship noted in the list .

As a technicality, that's a marine ships which is not Line. 
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #52 on: June 16, 2008, 05:52:38 pm »
Just to let you know my deaths in the H-LNHM2 aren't worth any points as it is a line ship noted in the list .

As a technicality, that's a marine ships which is not Line. 

Understandable...but, it should not be listed in the Line shiplist then.
Makes for too much confusion...which do we go by?
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #53 on: June 18, 2008, 02:26:40 pm »
Just to let you know my deaths in the H-LNHM2 aren't worth any points as it is a line ship noted in the list .

As a technicality, that's a marine ships which is not Line. 

Understandable...but, it should not be listed in the Line shiplist then.
Makes for too much confusion...which do we go by?

Have to agree with Krueg, the lineship list should trump all, as it was put out so we know what was what.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #54 on: June 18, 2008, 02:30:10 pm »
Just to let you know my deaths in the H-LNHM2 aren't worth any points as it is a line ship noted in the list .

As a technicality, that's a marine ships which is not Line. 

Understandable...but, it should not be listed in the Line shiplist then.
Makes for too much confusion...which do we go by?

Have to agree with Krueg, the lineship list should trump all, as it was put out so we know what was what.

That list is wronger than most of my Ex-girlfriends.  But I'll let you guys fight it out :)
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #55 on: June 18, 2008, 02:42:05 pm »
What in the world, what is this a place for posting kills on dynaverse?
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #56 on: June 18, 2008, 02:44:27 pm »
In this server Kills are worth points, as is PvP disengagement.  Typically, even if the server doesn't award PvP kills, its still posted as a sort of bragging thread.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #57 on: June 18, 2008, 02:44:44 pm »
What in the world, what is this a place for posting kills on dynaverse?

Yup, some kills are worth points.  We keep score.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #58 on: June 18, 2008, 02:47:49 pm »
This thread is for the Attack Of The Kitties server version #4, which is a serious campaign running in the Dynaverse right now.. for a better understanding, you may want to read the AOTK4 Rules thread which gives all the Downloads required to get on the server as well as the rules and how to score Player vs Player missions.

This thread in particular is for easy reference for the score keeper to track who made what kills and for how many points  so that when the server ends, we will know how many points we have gained for each side in Player vs Player so they can be added to the Victory Conditions scores of captured planets.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #59 on: June 18, 2008, 02:53:54 pm »
Oooo, sounds awfully fun, too bad I can't whoop some @$$ online.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #60 on: June 19, 2008, 10:08:55 pm »
Slider Z-DWDm Vs  Magus K-DWL

Two points for Kitties.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #61 on: June 20, 2008, 06:57:41 pm »
Soth FH-P and Lear RHK killed Slpint's STL
well fought.

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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #62 on: June 20, 2008, 07:24:38 pm »
Since I was already "outed."

Sulu's Husband's F-DNG Engaged Deaman's H-IDh and Marstone's H-LC in possibly the strangest mission of all time.   Both Hydrans disengaged.   5 Kitty points for the DN running off.

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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #63 on: June 20, 2008, 08:13:38 pm »
do you have a recording you can post?

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« Reply #64 on: June 20, 2008, 11:48:17 pm »
do you have a recording you can post?

Sorry, I didn't save it.  Watching paint dry would be about as exciting.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #65 on: June 21, 2008, 05:38:01 pm »
Sulu got me in his Fed DVL.  I was flying a Rom SUK. VGG Sulu.  I did draw first blood though.

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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #66 on: June 21, 2008, 06:38:29 pm »
MuadDibs C8VK chased off Zenos DNG

was then ran off by Sulus in his CVAR...
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #67 on: June 22, 2008, 02:15:57 am »
Battle ensued today with Pestalence_XC and Wraith against Lear and Tyrant

Pestalence_XC's F-CBL and Wraith's I-CV defeated Lear's R-RHK and chased off Tyrant's G-CVS

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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #68 on: June 22, 2008, 03:11:53 am »
3:30 AM Clash of the titans!!!

Corbomite's I-BB
Froghard's I-CAT


Versus . . .

Dib's G-BB
KBF-Reejir's K-D5LR
Deadman's H-SUI

The escorts died, the BB disengaged.  1 pint for the D5L, 2 fot the SUI, 10 for the BB leaving:  13 Point!
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #69 on: June 22, 2008, 11:10:19 am »
3:30 AM Clash of the titans!!!

Corbomite's I-BB
Froghard's I-CAT


Versus . . .

Dib's G-BB
KBF-Reejir's K-D5LR
Deadman's H-SUI

The escorts died, the BB disengaged.  1 pint for the D5L, 2 fot the SUI, 10 for the BB leaving:  13 Point!


Oh come on DH, Reejir is worth at least a quart!

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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #70 on: June 22, 2008, 03:28:30 pm »
Corbomite's I-BB and Ternado's F-NCDR vs Kaz's H-MNR and Soth's H-DWE

Both Hydrans disengaged after several hair raising exchanges. 10 Kitty points for the BB.

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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #71 on: June 22, 2008, 03:35:36 pm »
Kaz K-C7 and Soth R-FHP destroy Wraiths M-DFR and run off Sliders I-CCY

         GG
*Just for the record -This run off VCpoints system blows. If 2 fleets engage and trade shots and bit off more then they can chew and bail after taking some hvy dam you get banned from the hex ain't that enough already?Who wants to fly a cap ship when anything you do cost you points wether you put up a good fight or not.The Underdog vc points i have no problem, with but even strength VC points weather you fight or dont sucks.As for as im concerned this rule sucks ALOT of fun out.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #72 on: June 22, 2008, 04:06:52 pm »
The rule is there to prevent people from tying up pilots in a PVP match when other team members run missions under you.. It is also designed to help keep the big iron off the front lines.. If you want to fly big iron, then be willing to risk it or give up points. This is the reason for Line Ships.. they are free to fly all you want and to be expendable in PVP without giving up points.

Players take a mission to have PVP, but when they start to lose a mission, they hug the border as long as they can and then depart.. either fight it out to the death, or leave the map once you are hurt and not having a chance of winning.. don't tie up other people's time hugging the border for a quick escape, especially when you don't have enough ship to put up a fight or if you are unwilling to lose the ship..

That is one of my pet peeves for PVP so far.. they tie me up even when they know they are beaten.. either leave the map right away, for fight it out and the best player gets to claim a kill. Don't hug a border taking up a players time when you know you can't win.. first it is unsportsmanlike, second, many people have limited time to play, third it does neither side any benefit unless it is a method to allow their side to run missions underneath, which then makes it an exploit.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #73 on: June 22, 2008, 04:39:07 pm »
The rule is there to prevent people from tying up pilots in a PVP match when other team members run missions under you.. It is also designed to help keep the big iron off the front lines.. If you want to fly big iron, then be willing to risk it or give up points. This is the reason for Line Ships.. they are free to fly all you want and to be expendable in PVP without giving up points.

Players take a mission to have PVP, but when they start to lose a mission, they hug the border as long as they can and then depart.. either fight it out to the death, or leave the map once you are hurt and not having a chance of winning.. don't tie up other people's time hugging the border for a quick escape, especially when you don't have enough ship to put up a fight or if you are unwilling to lose the ship..

That is one of my pet peeves for PVP so far.. they tie me up even when they know they are beaten.. either leave the map right away, for fight it out and the best player gets to claim a kill. Don't hug a border taking up a players time when you know you can't win.. first it is unsportsmanlike, second, many people have limited time to play, third it does neither side any benefit unless it is a method to allow their side to run missions underneath, which then makes it an exploit.


I don't care for the "points for disengagement" thing either. it's hard enough to get pilots online these days to even play, much less fly Capitol ships with only points for ship loss. And line ships aren't "free" if lost unless you're alone, and in a game where teamwork is the key, it's not doing much for encouraging that.
And having such a rule to actually discourage players from being on the front in a capitol ship...? Sounds kind of self defeating right there. I can't see how discouraging pilots to fly on the front is ever going to bring any life back to this ever shrinking community.
We all have to learn somehow, and try telling someone who is just getting into this game that and see how long they want to keep playing if every time they even have to run, they cost their team points.
And I ALWAYS tell my pilots if they really think they have no chance of winning to disengage rather than just flying around in circles doing nothing, despite the fact that over the years that tactic has been used and abused by nearly everyone.
Maybe that needs to be addressed and enforced internally by RMs and the like... ;)
Another thing that is true for both sides is that not everyone lives for PvP, thus why we always have map VCs. In the past we've tried server with "pure" PvP, satisfying some, but not all, just as servers with no PvP VCs satisfy everyone.
Maybe this is one of those "Needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few"...
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #74 on: June 22, 2008, 04:55:25 pm »
The rule is there to prevent people from tying up pilots in a PVP match when other team members run missions under you.. It is also designed to help keep the big iron off the front lines.. If you want to fly big iron, then be willing to risk it or give up points. This is the reason for Line Ships.. they are free to fly all you want and to be expendable in PVP without giving up points.

Players take a mission to have PVP, but when they start to lose a mission, they hug the border as long as they can and then depart.. either fight it out to the death, or leave the map once you are hurt and not having a chance of winning.. don't tie up other people's time hugging the border for a quick escape, especially when you don't have enough ship to put up a fight or if you are unwilling to lose the ship..

That is one of my pet peeves for PVP so far.. they tie me up even when they know they are beaten.. either leave the map right away, for fight it out and the best player gets to claim a kill. Don't hug a border taking up a players time when you know you can't win.. first it is unsportsmanlike, second, many people have limited time to play, third it does neither side any benefit unless it is a method to allow their side to run missions underneath, which then makes it an exploit.


well crap...i got out of my BB/DN last night and picked up a C7 to at least salve myself from point run offs...but now i see i read the rules wrong and any cap ship that leaves is worth points...whatever!

since this is the case and the reasons behind this are basically to not waste a players time...droners should be added to the cap list...especially since many will not even engage their target so much as to chuck drones while running around at high speeds...then speeding off map when they are out...and in most cases...they run to the farthest border...to waste even more of your time...

i mean if it was me in a droner and i came across a BB of any kind...i would just consider the game a loss and move on to another hex without wasting the BBs time...who probably just showed up to chase me out...job well done...no wasted time...would be nice to see other players embrace this philosphy...
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #75 on: June 22, 2008, 05:27:48 pm »
Pestalence_XC engages Marstone

Pestalence_XC's F-CBL kills Marstone's K-c7

5 Kitty points
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #76 on: June 22, 2008, 05:49:53 pm »
Kaz K-C7 and Soth R-FHP destroy Wraiths M-DFR and run off Sliders I-CCY

         GG
*Just for the record -This run off VCpoints system blows. If 2 fleets engage and trade shots and bit off more then they can chew and bail after taking some hvy dam you get banned from the hex ain't that enough already?Who wants to fly a cap ship when anything you do cost you points wether you put up a good fight or not.The Underdog vc points i have no problem, with but even strength VC points weather you fight or dont sucks.As for as im concerned this rule sucks ALOT of fun out.

I dont understand what you mean. Are you saying we didnt fight?

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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #77 on: June 22, 2008, 06:05:01 pm »
Points for running off a capital ship is so people in those ships actually stay and fight.  Its to prevent people from flying DNs to jump cruisers and then run off the second an opponent shows up in a big ship to challenge them.

if you can't stand the heat, stay out the captians chair. 
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #78 on: June 22, 2008, 06:20:57 pm »
Soth R-FH-P fought Chairman Meow's Z-NCC.  A quick knife-fight ended with the Romulan Mauler destroyed.

3 Kitty points.

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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #79 on: June 22, 2008, 06:28:43 pm »
Points for running off a capital ship is so people in those ships actually stay and fight.  Its to prevent people from flying DNs to jump cruisers and then run off the second an opponent shows up in a big ship to challenge them.

if you can't stand the heat, stay out the captians chair. 
That seems a bit too targeted of a rule.  I'd argue that people should have the option to use a capital ship just in the manner that you describe that this rule is meant to combat.  It's an accepted role for these ships.  And the player that does stay and fight but loses is penalized for doing what you want them to do, stay and fight.  I say, points for kills only.  This running off business is just your way of penalizing people for being pussies in your opinion.  The strategic victory of kicking a capital ship out of a hex should be enough.


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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #80 on: June 22, 2008, 07:02:05 pm »
ISC versus Klingon Heavy Metal battle  :rockinband:

Corbomite's I-BB
FrogHard's I-CAT
Wraith's I-CAT


versus

Soth's K-B11k
Dib's K-DWL
Farfareres K-FDW.


The FDW died, BB disengaged.   13 Kitty points.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #81 on: June 22, 2008, 07:03:51 pm »
Cut off for scoring.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #82 on: June 22, 2008, 07:05:47 pm »
Points for running off a capital ship is so people in those ships actually stay and fight.  Its to prevent people from flying DNs to jump cruisers and then run off the second an opponent shows up in a big ship to challenge them.

if you can't stand the heat, stay out the captians chair. 
That seems a bit too targeted of a rule.  I'd argue that people should have the option to use a capital ship just in the manner that you describe that this rule is meant to combat.  It's an accepted role for these ships.  And the player that does stay and fight but loses is penalized for doing what you want them to do, stay and fight.  I say, points for kills only.  This running off business is just your way of penalizing people for being pussies in your opinion.  The strategic victory of kicking a capital ship out of a hex should be enough.

I do this myself when I have to (like when badly out numbered), but I think somebody bullying Cruiser pilots in a DN is lame.  Capital ships are meant for leading fleets into battle, not pikcing on the little guy.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #83 on: June 22, 2008, 07:20:38 pm »
Points for running off a capital ship is so people in those ships actually stay and fight.  Its to prevent people from flying DNs to jump cruisers and then run off the second an opponent shows up in a big ship to challenge them.

if you can't stand the heat, stay out the captians chair. 
That seems a bit too targeted of a rule.  I'd argue that people should have the option to use a capital ship just in the manner that you describe that this rule is meant to combat.  It's an accepted role for these ships.  And the player that does stay and fight but loses is penalized for doing what you want them to do, stay and fight.  I say, points for kills only.  This running off business is just your way of penalizing people for being pussies in your opinion.  The strategic victory of kicking a capital ship out of a hex should be enough.

I do this myself when I have to (like when badly out numbered), but I think somebody bullying Cruiser pilots in a DN is lame.  Capital ships are meant for leading fleets into battle, not pikcing on the little guy.

one of the primary reasons of having a capital ship in any given area is to intimidate .
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #84 on: June 22, 2008, 07:23:56 pm »
Points for running off a capital ship is so people in those ships actually stay and fight.  Its to prevent people from flying DNs to jump cruisers and then run off the second an opponent shows up in a big ship to challenge them.

if you can't stand the heat, stay out the captians chair. 
That seems a bit too targeted of a rule.  I'd argue that people should have the option to use a capital ship just in the manner that you describe that this rule is meant to combat.  It's an accepted role for these ships.  And the player that does stay and fight but loses is penalized for doing what you want them to do, stay and fight.  I say, points for kills only.  This running off business is just your way of penalizing people for being pussies in your opinion.  The strategic victory of kicking a capital ship out of a hex should be enough.

I do this myself when I have to (like when badly out numbered), but I think somebody bullying Cruiser pilots in a DN is lame.  Capital ships are meant for leading fleets into battle, not pikcing on the little guy.

one of the primary reasons of having a capital ship in any given area is to intimidate .

Do we really look intimidated?  :D

Yes that's true, but if you aren't willing to battle it out with another fleet you ain't intimidating at all.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #85 on: June 22, 2008, 07:27:16 pm »
OK, can we carry on this discussion, as well as others not pertaining directly to kill posting in a different thread, please...?
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #86 on: June 22, 2008, 08:19:27 pm »
Um, no. Since Dib needs to posture openly in chat about how intimidating he is in his C-7 when I don't stay in a hex to be jumped by him in my CL. Matching ships? Go for it dude. Mismatch? Drop the posturing, unless you don't have some other way to feel good about yourself.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #87 on: June 22, 2008, 10:46:27 pm »
Um, no. Since Dib needs to posture openly in chat about how intimidating he is in his C-7 when I don't stay in a hex to be jumped by him in my CL. Matching ships? Go for it dude. Mismatch? Drop the posturing, unless you don't have some other way to feel good about yourself.

LOL...!

i would take your criticism seriously had you not outnumbered me 3 to 1 on the board...am only 1 pilot...and being you were making way towards a planet with only 1 LOS...taking u off that LOS was a viable option...i cannot attack/guard several hexes at once...
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #88 on: June 23, 2008, 01:32:25 am »
 :police: :police:
hem, hem
Ok, guys, no more of this in the kills thread. Use this thread only to report kills, keep this discussions off to other threads, that do not enflame any members either.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #89 on: June 23, 2008, 05:57:53 am »
We should just post names, ships, and results without any flowery descriptions



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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #90 on: June 24, 2008, 04:25:32 pm »
Soth G-CCH and Kurok R-CNV+ engaged by Thelev F-CAD-R and SFHQ F-DVL Soth deystroyed by the Sun droner and dred run away from Kurok
 
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #91 on: June 24, 2008, 04:29:03 pm »
Soth G-CCH and Kurok R-CNV+ engaged by Thelev F-CAD-R and SFHQ F-DVL Soth deystroyed by the Sun droner and dred run away from Kurok
 
5pts

No, you were damaged by the sun, SFHQ destroyed you. 5pts. for the Coalition, 1 pt. for the Kitties.

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« Reply #92 on: June 24, 2008, 04:45:56 pm »
Soth G-CCH and Kurok R-CNV+ engaged by Thelev F-CAD-R and SFHQ F-DVL Soth deystroyed by the Sun droner and dred run away from Kurok
 
5pts

No, you were damaged by the sun, SFHQ destroyed you. 5pts. for the Coalition, 1 pt. for the Kitties.

The Gorn CCH is worth 2 Points.   

Coalition gets 5
Kitties get 2 for that battle.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #93 on: June 24, 2008, 04:58:07 pm »
Soth G-CCH and Kurok R-CNV+ engaged by Thelev F-CAD-R and SFHQ F-DVL Soth deystroyed by the Sun droner and dred run away from Kurok
 
5pts

Oh and you forgot to mention it was a really fun, epic battle that was probably the best PvP on the server. GG!

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« Reply #94 on: June 24, 2008, 05:56:34 pm »
ya was a fun game gg to both of you

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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #95 on: June 24, 2008, 05:58:38 pm »
HBF-Kurok in an ID Defeats Mutilator in a mdwd 3 point
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #96 on: June 24, 2008, 10:26:44 pm »
HBF-Kurok in an ID Defeats Mutilator in a mdwd 1 point

Specialty ship is worht 3 points of all size, don't sell yourself short  ;D
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #97 on: June 26, 2008, 04:17:46 pm »
Krueg's B11K and Soth's FHP herd Ternado's NCDR and SFHQ_XC's DNH into the sun.
SFHQ escapes with a bad sunburn, Ternado dies of exposure...
8 Coalition points.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #98 on: June 26, 2008, 04:22:03 pm »
Ternado,s ncdr kills Deadmans Mcc

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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #99 on: June 26, 2008, 04:41:35 pm »
Krueg's B11K and Soth's FHP herd Ternado's NCDR and SFHQ_XC's DNH into the sun.
SFHQ escapes with a bad sunburn, Ternado dies of exposure...
8 Coalition points.
GG guys.

I told you guys to wear your sunblock!!!! 
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #100 on: June 26, 2008, 04:46:03 pm »
Ternado,s ncdr kills Deadmans Mcc

Huh?  What race killed what?
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #101 on: June 26, 2008, 05:08:50 pm »
F-NCDR vs. H-CHC 


Ternado,s ncdr kills Deadmans Mcc


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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #102 on: June 26, 2008, 05:31:00 pm »
F-NCDR vs. H-CHC 


Ternado,s ncdr kills Deadmans Mcc




Thanks, 2 kitty points.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #103 on: June 27, 2008, 03:06:20 am »
Lears D5D wins over 9ThWraith NDC 3 pts

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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #104 on: June 27, 2008, 07:59:13 pm »
In a game where I dang near died, HBF Lord Krueg's OVh dirves off Pesty's CXL
4 Coalition points.
Thank god for those fighters or I would be dead...
VGG, sir!
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #105 on: June 27, 2008, 08:32:42 pm »
Cheap and cheesy F-DNH kills:
 

KBF-Kapacts  K-DWV  3 Points


Canderous's R-RHK 2 Points

(Sepearate fights)
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #106 on: June 27, 2008, 09:34:53 pm »
In a game where I dang near died, HBF Lord Krueg's OVh dirves off Pesty's CXL
4 Coalition points.
Thank god for those fighters or I would be dead...
VGG, sir!


Yes a VGG...

Just before our match though

Pestalence_XC's F-CXL kills Malak's K-D5DR for 3 Kitty Points
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #107 on: June 27, 2008, 09:54:57 pm »
Krueg's B11K forces DH flying as Sulu's Husband F-DNH to withdraw in a 1v1
5 Coalition points
Are trying to tell us something with that pilot name?  :P
Coming out after all these years...?  ;D
« Last Edit: June 27, 2008, 11:31:58 pm by KBFLordKrueg »
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #108 on: June 27, 2008, 10:44:41 pm »
Krueg's B11K forces DH flying as Sulu's Husband to withdraw in a 1v1
5 Coalition points
Are trying to tell us something with that pilot name?  :P
Coming out after all these years...?  ;D

It explains why you were trying to jump me . . .
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #109 on: June 27, 2008, 11:02:42 pm »
Krueg's B11K forces DH flying as Sulu's Husband to withdraw in a 1v1
5 Coalition points
Are trying to tell us something with that pilot name?  :P
Coming out after all these years...?  ;D

It explains why you were trying to jump me . . .

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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #110 on: June 28, 2008, 12:20:13 am »
In a game where I dang near died, HBF Lord Krueg's OVh dirves off Pesty's CXL
4 Coalition points.
Thank god for those fighters or I would be dead...
VGG, sir!



Yes a VGG...

Just before our match though

Pestalence_XC's F-CXL kills Malak's K-D5DR for 3 Kitty Points


yup, you, and  an A.I. CA with 3 escorts against my  A.I. E4 and I.  WHO wrote that mission ??

GG tho

You should seen my D5 draw an A.I. DNH in a later mission, I got a great pic of it.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #111 on: June 28, 2008, 12:39:56 am »
In a game where I dang near died, HBF Lord Krueg's OVh dirves off Pesty's CXL
4 Coalition points.
Thank god for those fighters or I would be dead...
VGG, sir!



Yes a VGG...

Just before our match though

Pestalence_XC's F-CXL kills Malak's K-D5DR for 3 Kitty Points


yup, you, and  an A.I. CA with 3 escorts against my  A.I. E4 and I.  WHO wrote that mission ??

GG tho

You should seen my D5 draw an A.I. DNH in a later mission, I got a great pic of it.



Against those odds you failed to disengage immediately rather than give up kill points...?  >:(
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #112 on: June 28, 2008, 11:55:28 am »
In a game where I dang near died, HBF Lord Krueg's OVh dirves off Pesty's CXL
4 Coalition points.
Thank god for those fighters or I would be dead...
VGG, sir!



Yes a VGG...

Just before our match though

Pestalence_XC's F-CXL kills Malak's K-D5DR for 3 Kitty Points


yup, you, and  an A.I. CA with 3 escorts against my  A.I. E4 and I.  WHO wrote that mission ??

GG tho

You should seen my D5 draw an A.I. DNH in a later mission, I got a great pic of it.



Against those odds you failed to disengage immediately rather than give up kill points...?  >:(


I would like to state for the record that I did not become psychic and Posses Kreug nor did I hack his account and make this post.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #113 on: June 28, 2008, 07:40:01 pm »
Homer was kickin it Old School in an F-DNL with Medium drones.  I engaged Deadman's H-OS.  I was hurt pretty badly, but the Hydran BCV was destroyed.

7 Kitty points.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #114 on: June 29, 2008, 02:10:10 am »
Pestalence_XC engages Raus

Pesty's F-CXL chases off Raus' R-FHX for 4 kitty points
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #115 on: June 29, 2008, 04:59:03 pm »
Corbomite's I-CCX kills Soth's K-DX for 7 Kitty points.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #116 on: June 29, 2008, 05:02:29 pm »
Corbomite's I-CCX chased off Tryant's G-BCS for 4 kitty points.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #117 on: June 29, 2008, 06:30:44 pm »
Corbomite's I-BBZ chased off Crim's C7V and Kreug's D5d for 4 kitty run-off points.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #118 on: June 29, 2008, 06:31:49 pm »
Norvo's I-CAX killed Deadman's H-CHC for 2 kitty points.
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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #119 on: June 30, 2008, 06:39:10 am »
Kurok and Kreug d5d along with Kaz D7x force Dh in a FBB to disengage for 10 colation points

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Re: ATOK 4 Kills
« Reply #120 on: June 30, 2008, 06:56:56 am »
Kurok and Kreug d5d along with Kaz D7x force Dh in a FBB to disengage for 10 colation points

By the rules here, this wasn't an "even" match and doesn't count for points...
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