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Re: Possible aquisition
« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2008, 04:28:19 pm »
While I want a physical model, a virtual one is appeling as well, but it's hard to say that I built it when it's virtual. Also does it cost to get a virtual model, cause I'm a broke 15-year old redneck who like Star Trek.
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Re: Possible aquisition
« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2008, 05:11:23 pm »
Well, there are several ways to get a 3D model made.

First is the most common one, make it yourself.  For some people it's easy.  Natural talent.  For others, like me, learning the basics can be a bitch.

Second is to have a friend that can make it for you.  If you're able to get to know the right people in these communities, it's possible, but it won't be fast.

Third, you pay someone to make one for you.  I've seen some people make 3D models for around a few hundred dollars, to upwards of a few thousand.  It all depends on the person you hire to make the model for you, how detailed you want the model, and other factors I can't think of right now.

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Re: Possible aquisition
« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2008, 02:30:53 am »
LOL.. most modelers on this board do models for free.. Besides.. by Paramount and Trek Licensing, if a Modeler makes a model with Trek material, and puts it up for download, it is free to the world, unless it is copy written by a game developer or publisher.

Paramount's Trek license states all artwork (including 3D renders) that are related to Star Trek or use Trek copy written or trademarked material are automatically property of Paramount Studios and shall be distributed by law as free share... Meaning no one can charge the public for downloading it.. Unless it was created under specific licensing of Paramount Studios, CBS Studios, Viacom or Trek Licensed Publisher.

Making the model on the other hand is up in the air.. Someone can charge for a model to be made that does not have Trek Trademarked or copy written material on it.. that is unless they want to pay Paramount, Viacom, and CBS or any other entity (Quicksilver, ADB, Various artists for Trek books, game developers, game publishers etc.) royalties on the render. If they are charging for Copy written material or trademarked material as licensed by Paramount, CBS, Viacom, etc.. they should be reported to Paramount so they can collect royalties on their License.

Making a model with Trek Copy written or trademarked material put out for download is, by law, suppose to be free to the public.

That doesn't mean a Modeler can't accept a donation for their time and hard work (not a forced donation either, it has to be volunteered).. but the modeler can't charge for copy written material.

That is something to think about..

Best thing to do is check Battle Clinic and see if a model you are thinking of has already been made and just download it from there.

In the case of Starfleet Command.. here is an excerpt from the EULA of the Orion Pirates game.. Notice the bold print.. It states derivative works, which includes models.

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Re: Possible aquisition
« Reply #23 on: May 21, 2008, 02:54:14 am »
I'm not sure, but I think he's asking for a physical model.  You know, like ERTL, with glue and paint and stuff.
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Re: Possible aquisition
« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2008, 02:57:13 am »
If that is the case.. Anyone can charge to assemble a physical model or make one from scratch.. that they can negotiate behind closed doors.. If someone is interested in doing a physical model.. it should be communicated by email or PM when discussing finances.
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Re: Possible aquisition
« Reply #25 on: May 21, 2008, 03:06:41 am »
You can charge for your labor. It has nothing to do with IP. You aren't actually selling the model.
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Re: Possible aquisition
« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2008, 07:40:35 pm »
Could you recommond a site where I can download an impressive Fedration,Gorn, or Klingon  ship for free?I'm always looking for free items, OR could give you give the name of a site that teaches me how to make a virtual model, please.
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Re: Possible aquisition
« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2008, 08:34:11 pm »
Could you recommond a site where I can download an impressive Fedration,Gorn, or Klingon  ship for free?I'm always looking for free items, OR could give you give the name of a site that teaches me how to make a virtual model, please.

There are the models available for SFC made by the community.  Those can be downloaded free by anyone, mainly at Battleclinic and SFC3Files.com.

There are also sites that have CGI level models.  The best known one is www.scifi-meshes.com.  There are some tutorials on that site as well.

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Re: Possible aquisition
« Reply #28 on: May 22, 2008, 03:53:31 pm »
Thank you, perhaps I can make myself a model of an ISC ship without many problems.................I think
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Re: Possible aquisition
« Reply #29 on: May 23, 2008, 08:34:13 am »
sorry... only just caught up with this..

http://www.starshipmodeler.com/

thats what u need here i reckon  :)

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Re: Possible aquisition
« Reply #30 on: May 25, 2008, 08:14:57 pm »
That's allright, I just got back from vacation, but I did get a SFC 2 K-DN. I'm just starting it now.
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Re: Possible aquisition
« Reply #31 on: May 26, 2008, 08:56:23 pm »
just noticed this thread. I only build the plastic and reisn models of Star Trek (can't 3d model for the life of me even though I own the software to do it though would like to try)

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Re: Possible aquisition
« Reply #32 on: May 30, 2008, 04:34:12 pm »
You're in good company, I can't either. It's really confusin and it bugs the hell outa me.
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Re: Possible aquisition
« Reply #33 on: May 31, 2008, 11:49:28 am »
My modelling class opens up soon so watch this space  8)

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Re: Possible aquisition
« Reply #34 on: May 31, 2008, 01:38:13 pm »
Good, but please have them make it understandable.
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