Topic: BSG 4.0 (Read 12822 times)

NJAntman · « **on:** April 04, 2008, 11:11:09 pm »

Well alrighty, gotta start a thread now that it finally has been seen.

What do you all think of it?

IMHO it was OK. Like the bullet thru Adamas eye, thinking there was no way back from that and man that would have eliminated at least one candidate for the final 12.

Why do I get the impression Baltar is going on to found the principles of Christianity? Wouldn't that be a kicker.

Sirgod · « **Reply #1 on:** April 05, 2008, 02:06:57 am »

I love the tension on that show. That being said,My TV was acting up tonight, I hope Judge can get me a copy of the show (damn weather and Sattelite.)

what I did see, I liked, Esp. with Starbuck. That being said, Did she seem a bit like that one crybaby who was on youtube telling america to lay off of Britney spears? I don't know, I love her story line, but her acting was maybe over the top. Hey I could be wrong, and I will find out next week. Besides possible spoilers.

With cancer back, does anyone care if she will shoot a dead person anyway?

Stephen

Pestalence_XC · « **Reply #2 on:** April 05, 2008, 03:35:48 am »

Well Stephen,

you can go to Scf-Fi/Battlestar and catch the replay of it.. it should be up there for the next week or so.

Also, I recorded it on my system using Media Center.. however I don't have a web host to upload it to..

Sirgod · « **Reply #3 on:** April 05, 2008, 03:51:53 am »

Quote from: Pestalence_XC on April 05, 2008, 03:35:48 am

Well Stephen,

you can go to Scf-Fi/Battlestar and catch the replay of it.. it should be up there for the next week or so.

Also, I recorded it on my system using Media Center.. however I don't have a web host to upload it to..

I appreciate that Pesty. I have a friend inthe UK who is setting me up with a copy, along with Dr. Who, so I thinnk I'll be good. Thanks though, IT's most kind of you to offer. your good people Pesty.

Stephen

TheJudge · « **Reply #4 on:** April 06, 2008, 12:18:44 pm »

Good. The bad thing about going from Tivo to HD-DVR is that I no longer have a DVD burner and there's no way to copy the files. *sigh*

I will say this: Watching THIS episode with its fracking awesome battle scenes on a 42" Flat Panel HD television was fracking awesome.

Oh, and I'll frack Baltar to get a BSG game that looks like those opening scenes.

Pestalence_XC · « **Reply #5 on:** April 06, 2008, 12:55:11 pm »

Quote from: Stephen NCC -73070 on April 05, 2008, 03:51:53 am

Quote from: Pestalence_XC on April 05, 2008, 03:35:48 am
Well Stephen,

you can go to Scf-Fi/Battlestar and catch the replay of it.. it should be up there for the next week or so.

Also, I recorded it on my system using Media Center.. however I don't have a web host to upload it to..

I appreciate that Pesty. I have a friend inthe UK who is setting me up with a copy, along with Dr. Who, so I thinnk I'll be good. Thanks though, IT's most kind of you to offer. your good people Pesty.

Stephen

Stephen, if you can't find the episode.. you can watch it here :

http://www.scifi.com/rewind/?sid=32850&eid=236036

Bonk · « **Reply #6 on:** April 06, 2008, 01:05:08 pm »

I still can't bring myself to watch the show, even though those battle scenes in the ads look great.

Whatever happened to good, noncontrived female roles in science fiction? (e.g. Ellen Ripley)

TheJudge · « **Reply #7 on:** April 06, 2008, 07:02:28 pm »

My favorite characters in this show (not eye candy) are (in order):

Number Six (Played by Tricia Helfer)
Gaius Baltar (James Callis)
Galen Tyrol (Aaron Douglas)
Callie (Can't remember the actresses's name)
Admiral Bill Adama (Edward James Olmos)
President Laura Roslyn (Mary McDonald)
Athena/Boomer/Sharon (Grace Park)
Starbuck (Katey Sackhoff)
Apollo (Jamie Bamber)

I could go on and on, but it really is a great ensemble cast that goes way beyond the Adama/Apollo/Starbuck trine of the original. All the people that play Cylons skin-jobs do excellent work at giving different individuals of the model series their own personalities. I also like the way things have shaped up with the skin jobs lobotomizing the other mechanical cylons and how that is coming to a head.

Oh, and how could I forget the guy that plays Colonel Tigh?! My gods that has been one fracked up role from the beginning and he has so much damn fun with it along the way...

Father Ted · « **Reply #8 on:** April 07, 2008, 06:06:48 pm »

Father Ted's odds on who the 12th Cylon is:

Bill Adama: 1 million to 1(I just refuse to accept that Lt. Castillo from 'Miami Vice' could be the bad guy

)
Lee Adama: 500 to 1(rejecting the CAG job and delving into politics is a bit suspicious)
Laura Roslyn: 100 to 1(resurgence of cancer and refusing to hear out Starbuck's pleading leads one to think she might just be leading them into a trap)
Gaius Baltar: 20 to 1(I just don't think it will be him though)
Starbuck: 2-1
A member of Baltar's new religious cult: Even

TheJudge · « **Reply #9 on:** April 07, 2008, 06:24:43 pm »

I watched the marathon of episodes from Seasons 1, 2, & 3 and I have to wonder if they were thinking of Tyrol as Cylon from the beginning. He makes love to the vipers the way Boomer made love to the captured Raider in Season 1.

As for the 12th Cylon, I don't think we've seen it yet, unless it is Romo Lamkin (Baltar's second lawyer that seduced Lee away from his father's side). The picture that's up on Scifil.com right now has been referenced by Ron Moore as NOT containing the 12th model, which leaves Lee, Kara, Bill, and Laura all out of the mix. Carl (helo) too for that matter.

Oh, and the first episode, there was a scene where Torrie, Laura, Saul, Galen, Bill, and Lee were talking about Starbuck's ship and throwing out theories. Notice how the Cylons in that group kept on discounting any theory that would point to Starbuck having really gone to Earth.

TheJudge · « **Reply #10 on:** April 12, 2008, 02:11:34 am »

FRACK FRACK FRACK!!!!

As if Baltar having Six in his head wasn't bad enough, now he has himself in his head? ARGH! If inner-baltar starts having imaginary sex with real Baltar I'm going to...woops well y'all don't want specifics but at least we have two bathrooms here.

Soreyes · « **Reply #11 on:** April 12, 2008, 06:53:39 am »

Quote from: TheJudge on April 12, 2008, 02:11:34 am

FRACK FRACK FRACK!!!!

As if Baltar having Six in his head wasn't bad enough, now he has himself in his head? ARGH! If inner-baltar starts having imaginary sex with real Baltar I'm going to...woops well y'all don't want specifics but at least we have two bathrooms here.

have to admit when the "Inner Baltar" showed up I was a bit confused. Then some how it just made sence. The best part was when the Cat was let out of the Bag...... "When they heard what happened to the Raiders"

dragoon · « **Reply #12 on:** April 12, 2008, 11:25:42 am »

Quote from: Father Ted on April 07, 2008, 06:06:48 pm

Father Ted's odds on who the 12th Cylon is:

Bill Adama: 1 million to 1(I just refuse to accept that Lt. Castillo from 'Miami Vice' could be the bad guy )
Lee Adama: 500 to 1(rejecting the CAG job and delving into politics is a bit suspicious)
Laura Roslyn: 100 to 1(resurgence of cancer and refusing to hear out Starbuck's pleading leads one to think she might just be leading them into a trap)
Gaius Baltar: 20 to 1(I just don't think it will be him though)
Starbuck: 2-1
A member of Baltar's new religious cult: Even

Apparently RDM has said it's none of the main human cast.. Ie. Rossalin, Adamas, Starbuck or Baltar.
The latest rumours i've heard is that the last Cylon is Admiral Caine, though I have to say that I hope it's not Anastasia "Dee" Dualla, because she's the most Human of the cast, and while making her a toaster would be a major example of how Human cylons can be, I think it would be a let down.

Hexx · « **Reply #13 on:** April 12, 2008, 06:20:24 pm »

Cylon
Civil
War

This really is the best frackin show on TV.

Kreeargh · « **Reply #14 on:** April 13, 2008, 12:03:16 am »

Quote from: Hexx on April 12, 2008, 06:20:24 pm

Cylon
Civil
War

This really is the best frackin show on TV.

Don't mess with them animal ER Cylon rights activists thats what you will get in the end

I vote for President Laura Roslyn (Mary McDonald) for the # 12 .
I remember #6 when she saw #12 she was shocked and said she was sorry or something like that. Theres 2 ppl in the Colonial fleet that i can think of as being the most important to human survival thats the President and Adama know where earth is and wont say.
Starbuck just thinks she saw earth or was taken there i think she was captured by the white gods like in the old show hence the new viper with out a scratch on it.

knightstorm · « **Reply #15 on:** April 14, 2008, 08:56:41 pm »

Quote from: Kreeargh on April 13, 2008, 12:03:16 am

Quote from: Hexx on April 12, 2008, 06:20:24 pm
Cylon
Civil
War

This really is the best frackin show on TV.

Don't mess with them animal ER Cylon rights activists thats what you will get in the end

I vote for President Laura Roslyn (Mary McDonald) for the # 12 .
I remember #6 when she saw #12 she was shocked and said she was sorry or something like that. Theres 2 ppl in the Colonial fleet that i can think of as being the most important to human survival thats the President and Adama know where earth is and wont say.
Starbuck just thinks she saw earth or was taken there i think she was captured by the white gods like in the old show hence the new viper with out a scratch on it.

I really don't like Roslyn. She tries to play tough and does really sleazy things like ordering a forced abortion, promising prisoners that they won't be harmed and then throwing them out of airlocks, and pulling that stunt with baby Hera. And when she isn't doing things like that, she's busy getting high and playing prophet. Baltar was a better president, at least he normally hallucinates hot blondes. I'm just glad they killed Elosha she was a really annoying character. What's a real shame is that in the DVD commentaries they complained that the original in the original BSG, the civilian leaders are idiots, and Adama seems to be the only smart one, but when they need to create their own leaders, those two are the best that they could come up with. The humans would probably be better off if she turned out to be a cylon, then they could get rid of her. I don't think Rosilin is the #12 though. As far as I know, Cylons don't get terminal cancer. I think its Ellen Tigh. I can picture her returning and confronting Saul about poisoning her. I think that unlike the significant seven who are supposed to be generic humans, the final five are actual people who were captured and converted into cylons. This would explain some of the inconsistency of Tigh and his family having a documented service record. And if Tigh was kidnapped and converted, its conceivable that his wife was as well.

Dracho · « **Reply #16 on:** April 17, 2008, 10:19:22 am »

I always thought the original series episode where they found Earth sucked.. I want the Galactica to jump into the middle of the Federation.... Toaster 1 of 12, meet Borg 7 of 9.

Or perhaps the Stargate or Bayblon 5 universe.

Father Ted · « **Reply #17 on:** April 17, 2008, 05:13:38 pm »

Quote from: Dracho on April 17, 2008, 10:19:22 am

I always thought the original series episode where they found Earth sucked.. I want the Galactica to jump into the middle of the Federation.... Toaster 1 of 12, meet Borg 7 of 9.

Or perhaps the Stargate or Bayblon 5 universe.

If you really want to ramp up the humor/entertainment potential, have Galactica and the human fleet jump into Ferengi space.

TheJudge · « **Reply #18 on:** April 18, 2008, 08:21:54 pm »

Wow, so now we get a BSG logo at the top of the page WITh a countdown? Sweet!

Oh, and haven't seen this week's episode yet. My partner is taking the frakking dogs to the frakking groomers and stopped to buy dog food and is lolligagging around. He may just come home to find me watching it anyway and frak it if he wants a divorce over that.

knightstorm · « **Reply #19 on:** April 30, 2008, 06:32:58 am »

SONS OF ARES ROCK!!!

While I'm more of a follower of zeus,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De1bu1eYs4Y

I do like the idea of more nutjobs coming out to wage a holy war against Baltar's nutjobs.

FPF-Tobin Dax · « **Reply #20 on:** April 30, 2008, 07:58:53 am »

So how many liked or disliked 1701D on the weapons locker door? I didn't care for it as it distracted me from the drama. Cally is toast now at the hands of a good, final 5 cylon?

Vipre · « **Reply #21 on:** April 30, 2008, 03:37:27 pm »

Quote from: FPF-Tobin Dax on April 30, 2008, 07:58:53 am

Cally is toast now at the hands of a good, final 5 cylon?

Not quite, if Baltar is supposed to be Jesus then Torrie is surely being groomed as Satan. That whole last episode felt like it was designed just to reinforce her belief in her own perfection. I'm expecting to see her go into (to steal from D&D) pure Chaotic/Evil mode as thing go forward.

Death_Merchant · « **Reply #22 on:** May 02, 2008, 01:26:25 pm »

Quote from: FPF-Tobin Dax on April 30, 2008, 07:58:53 am

So how many liked or disliked 1701D on the weapons locker door?

Didn't really notice at the time. The "D" looked like a "0" at first glance.

No big deal really. However, it does pull you out of the show.
Bad decision on the part of someone.
Or as Ron Moore put it in the latest podcast: "The inmates are running the asylum".

AlchemistiD · « **Reply #23 on:** June 06, 2008, 10:20:10 pm »

Just saw tonight's ep. Holy crap, a slightly happy ending, I was expecting her to get shot through that whole scene at the end.

Once again, Helo is the voice of reason.

Dianna's joke had me rolling, but it still felt a little like a 'screw you viewer'. I knew they were going to do something like that from the previews, though. I must never trust a trailer.

NJAntman · « **Reply #24 on:** June 13, 2008, 09:08:53 am »

As if things weren't screwey enough with a skinjob civil war, now Baltars discussing the pecking order with a Centurion. Get them all uppity; should lead to some interesting consequences.

TheJudge · « **Reply #25 on:** June 13, 2008, 10:09:17 am »

I was squirming in my seat when I saw Baltar talking to that Centurion. Now, though I don't worry so much. God has punished Baltar for going too far (what else would you call the timing of the explosion?). He (God) also threw in a moral test for Roslin to remind her of what it means to be human.

It was good seeing the priestess again as well. Very nice of them to bring her back.

I'm just sad that Pike died. I liked his pug nose.

Soreyes · « **Reply #26 on:** June 14, 2008, 05:38:11 am »

AHHH CRAP We have to wait untill 2009 to find out the ending

http://tv.ign.com/articles/881/881487p1.html

Frack frack double frack!! I blame Baltar....

Vipre · « **Reply #27 on:** June 14, 2008, 06:43:59 am »

Big surprise, they did the same thing in '07

Sarek · « **Reply #28 on:** June 14, 2008, 11:42:41 am »

This is the first time I've seen a single season take two years to complete.

TheJudge · « **Reply #29 on:** June 16, 2008, 02:39:36 pm »

At least it WILL be shown. I love that the first handful of dirt picked up by Adama was radioactive.

Oh and damn it was a fracking good picture there at the end, on that planet. A couple of things really stuck out, like how one of the Sixes reached out from behind Tigh to touch him gently, how D'anna interacted with both Roslyn and senior Adama, and the distance between Anders and Starbuck.

Very nice ending overall. Can't wait to watch it again!

Vipre · « **Reply #30 on:** June 17, 2008, 09:26:42 am »

Gods that's frustrating. 7-8 maybe even 9 months for the rest of the story.

Wild and likely insanely incorrect plot guess, Humanity started on Earth, destroyed itself, left for the stars, settled on Kobol, destroyed itself again, left for the stars again, settled the 12 colonies, and repeated the process one more time winding up right back where they started...Earth.

Akira_Commander567 · « **Reply #31 on:** June 17, 2008, 09:38:34 am »

Story of humanity's life, there was probably a man or woman who thought that they could have all the power to themselves.

dragoon · « **Reply #32 on:** June 17, 2008, 06:30:35 pm »

Can't get the Spoiler tags to work for some reason...... SO:

POSSIBLE SPOILERS BELOW ( assuming you haven't seen the mid season finale )

I don't think things are what they seem.
I get a nagging suspicion this isn't Earth, but Terra, or at least a past Human colony world that the 13th Tribe thought was Earth.
What if the 13th tribe arrive at this world and find a Human civilisation... the 2 sides try to live together but the 13th are like outsiders, tensions rise and BOOM!
All of that could have happened in the same time frame as the colonials leaving Kobol and arriving at Caprica etc....

In some spoilers/Rumours i read today, one of the production team said the planet isn't what it seems.

Maybe this world is another stepping stone to Earth.

I admit that if it is Earth, I would like information on what happened... and I will feel really betrayed if the colonials have arrived in our past.

Personally I want the Colonials and any Cylons that join them to have a genuine happy ending, I really want to see them arrive at a place where there are people, where there are Children and families living in peace. After the conditions the people of the fleet have lived with, that seems like a true payoff....... basically everything that Voyager wasn't. Even if there is major misery before that ( more than usual ). Even if the world they arrive at is a new Human home world, I want the colonials to see the full history of Humanity that stems from Earth

Akira_Commander567 · « **Reply #33 on:** June 17, 2008, 07:37:53 pm »

What happened in the first place? I mean, did they lose Earth?

Vipre · « **Reply #34 on:** June 18, 2008, 02:02:25 pm »

Quote from: dragoon on June 17, 2008, 06:30:35 pm

Can't get the Spoiler tags to work for some reason...... SO:I don't think things are what they seem.
I get a nagging suspicion this isn't Earth, but Terra, or at least a past Human colony world that the 13th Tribe thought was Earth.
What if the 13th tribe arrive at this world and find a Human civilisation... the 2 sides try to live together but the 13th are like outsiders, tensions rise and BOOM!
All of that could have happened in the same time frame as the colonials leaving Kobol and arriving at Caprica etc....

In some spoilers/Rumours i read today, one of the production team said the planet isn't what it seems.

Maybe this world is another stepping stone to Earth.

I admit that if it is Earth, I would like information on what happened... and I will feel really betrayed if the colonials have arrived in our past.

Personally I want the Colonials and any Cylons that join them to have a genuine happy ending, I really want to see them arrive at a place where there are people, where there are Children and families living in peace. After the conditions the people of the fleet have lived with, that seems like a true payoff....... basically everything that Voyager wasn't. Even if there is major misery before that ( more than usual ). Even if the world they arrive at is a new Human home world, I want the colonials to see the full history of Humanity that stems from Earth

According to Pithia it is Earth. At the beginning Apollo is looking at a book with a drawing of Earth "as described by Pithia". In the picture and to which Starbuck references was the Temple of Aurora.

Watch the episode and right at the end, half a second or so before it goes black and you'll see that temple...well what's left of it that is.

Akira_Commander567 · « **Reply #35 on:** June 18, 2008, 02:26:02 pm »

Ok, my older brother sent us his seasons that he had bought to us. I'll watch it when I have the time.

marstone · « **Reply #36 on:** June 18, 2008, 03:00:08 pm »

Ah but don't forget to factor in the warning the hybrid gave in Razor. "this has all happened before, it will all happen again" (paraphrased of course, could be correct tho, not sure for sure)

Akira_Commander567 · « **Reply #37 on:** June 18, 2008, 03:07:56 pm »

Humanity is known for repating certain things like genocide and such, it'll happen again. In fact, I guarennte it.

dragoon · « **Reply #38 on:** June 18, 2008, 10:10:43 pm »

Quote from: Vipre on June 18, 2008, 02:02:25 pm

Quote from: dragoon on June 17, 2008, 06:30:35 pm
Can't get the Spoiler tags to work for some reason...... SO:I don't think things are what they seem.
I get a nagging suspicion this isn't Earth, but Terra, or at least a past Human colony world that the 13th Tribe thought was Earth.
What if the 13th tribe arrive at this world and find a Human civilisation... the 2 sides try to live together but the 13th are like outsiders, tensions rise and BOOM!
All of that could have happened in the same time frame as the colonials leaving Kobol and arriving at Caprica etc....

In some spoilers/Rumours i read today, one of the production team said the planet isn't what it seems.

Maybe this world is another stepping stone to Earth.

I admit that if it is Earth, I would like information on what happened... and I will feel really betrayed if the colonials have arrived in our past.

Personally I want the Colonials and any Cylons that join them to have a genuine happy ending, I really want to see them arrive at a place where there are people, where there are Children and families living in peace. After the conditions the people of the fleet have lived with, that seems like a true payoff....... basically everything that Voyager wasn't. Even if there is major misery before that ( more than usual ). Even if the world they arrive at is a new Human home world, I want the colonials to see the full history of Humanity that stems from Earth

According to Pithia it is Earth. At the beginning Apollo is looking at a book with a drawing of Earth "as described by Pithia". In the picture and to which Starbuck references was the Temple of Aurora.

Watch the episode and right at the end, half a second or so before it goes black and you'll see that temple...well what's left of it that is.

I saw that, but the possibility that they've mixed Terra and Earth up is still there I think.
The Book Apollo was looking at, only showed a Temple and the surrounding area, not a Planet and it's continents.
Also, in that Episode, it seems that it's the first time we've seen colonials with what they think is direct information on Earth itself.
Surely this means that there was contact between Earth and Kobol before the 12 tribes left. And it seems to me, that Earth might already have been established before the 13th left Kobol too. So to me it discounts the idea of Earth not being the point of origin within this BSG's mythos.

Vipre · « **Reply #39 on:** June 18, 2008, 10:20:50 pm »

Quote from: dragoon on June 18, 2008, 10:10:43 pm

Also, in that Episode, it seems that it's the first time we've seen colonials with what they think is direct information on Earth itself.

Not quite, the first time they saw what they think is direct information on Earth itself was the constellations at the Temple of Athena I believe on Kobol itself. Thats why Adama tells Gaeta to take his time verifying that they are in their correct spots.

Quote

Surely this means that there was contact between Earth and Kobol before the 12 tribes left. And it seems to me, that Earth might already have been established before the 13th left Kobol too. So to me it discounts the idea of Earth not being the point of origin within this BSG's mythos.

Can't leave breadcrumbs to somewhere you've never been so yeah either someone left Kobol settled Earth then returned to the 12 colonies with the "prophecies" of Pithia leaving clues to it's location on the return trip or Earth was the starting point and Kobol was second.

NJAntman · « **Reply #40 on:** June 19, 2008, 06:56:20 am »

The series as a whole borrows some of the story elements of the original: Baltar's betrayal, survival of Galactica & Pegasus, human exodus, etc.. Now keep in mind the still unexplained disappearance and return of Thrace. The original serious had the intervention of higher powers ("ship of lights"), Apollo's disappearance and the discovery of other humans along the trail to Earth (Eastern & Western Alliance planet). I think they are dipping into those elements again.

Perhaps the Colonial Gods are real and are the meddling higher powers behind Thrace's return with a sparkling new Viper that points to "Earth" as described at the temple on Kobol. Thrace inferred that the star field they saw from the temple would be the same as seen from Earth. What if it actually was meant to provide just a stepping stone to a planet from where the Gods would leave a new pointer and issue a new warning such as the Eastern & Western Alliance planet, although this time the warning is a destroyed planet as would have happened if the ICBMs had really flown back in the original serious.

Vipre · « **Reply #41 on:** June 19, 2008, 07:43:44 am »

Quote from: NJAntman on June 19, 2008, 06:56:20 am

Thrace inferred that the star field they saw from the temple would be the same as seen from Earth. What if it actually was meant to provide just a stepping stone to a planet from where the Gods would leave a new pointer and issue a new warning such as the Eastern & Western Alliance planet, although this time the warning is a destroyed planet as would have happened if the ICBMs had really flown back in the original serious.

Not bad but didn't she base that on Pithia's description which went something to the effect of, "When they arrived on Earth they looked up and in the sky saw their brothers" a reference to the constellations. The image in the temple was the night sky displaying them and she recognized the connection with the descriptuion.

Anything's possible, but with so few episodes left it seems like it'd be kind of hard to have an "Eastern & Western Alliance planet" style plot, deal with the other cylons (they weren't all killed when the hub was destroyed were they?), find the fifth cylon and tie everything up with the discovery of "the real" Earth.

dragoon · « **Reply #42 on:** June 19, 2008, 09:58:50 am »

Quote from: Vipre on June 18, 2008, 10:20:50 pm

Quote from: dragoon on June 18, 2008, 10:10:43 pm
Also, in that Episode, it seems that it's the first time we've seen colonials with what they think is direct information on Earth itself.

Not quite, the first time they saw what they think is direct information on Earth itself was the constellations at the Temple of Athena I believe on Kobol itself. Thats why Adama tells Gaeta to take his time verifying that they are in their correct spots.

Quote
Surely this means that there was contact between Earth and Kobol before the 12 tribes left. And it seems to me, that Earth might already have been established before the 13th left Kobol too. So to me it discounts the idea of Earth not being the point of origin within this BSG's mythos.
Can't leave breadcrumbs to somewhere you've never been so yeah either someone left Kobol settled Earth then returned to the 12 colonies with the "prophecies" of Pithia leaving clues to it's location on the return trip or Earth was the starting point and Kobol was second.

What I meant about the colonials understanding of Earth, is that it was the first time we've seen info they've had from before the escape from Caprica et al.
The Hybrid also said that they should not follow Kara.... as far as I can see, that's exactly what they have all done.

The viper was pointing the way to Earth, but then, so was the arrow of Apollo, and the Temple of Jupiter and the Ionion Nebula etc.... this world could be another guide to that place, another stepping stone.

I don't think it would take much to make it so. You just need them to find a temple or sealed documents saying the world is called Terra, and that some kind of cataclysm is occurring, and we've decided to return to humanities birth place... .Earth. This would cause major upset for the colonials because they think they originated on Kobol.... and I think it would then be a good lead to the idea that the Colonials were the Kobol version of Cylons, and they caused the destruction, and that the 12 tribes were based on 12 models of Cylons that existed. Where as the 13th tribe were the surviving Humans who fled back to Earth. So all of this has happend before and it will again......

manitoba1073 · « **Reply #43 on:** June 21, 2008, 02:43:17 am »

ofcourse to me the sun looked a little to close for it to be earth

dragoon · « **Reply #44 on:** June 21, 2008, 05:45:06 am »

Quote from: manitoba1073 on June 21, 2008, 02:43:17 am

ofcourse to me the sun looked a little to close for it to be earth

Good point... I noticed that the sun seemed a bit too bright, but didn''t pay it enough attention.... what with being shocked etc.

marstone · « **Reply #45 on:** June 21, 2008, 03:32:33 pm »

Quote from: dragoon on June 21, 2008, 05:45:06 am

Quote from: manitoba1073 on June 21, 2008, 02:43:17 am
ofcourse to me the sun looked a little to close for it to be earth

Good point... I noticed that the sun seemed a bit too bright, but didn''t pay it enough attention.... what with being shocked etc.

Well, maybe due to air burst Nukes the upper Atmosphere has thined down and the sun looks brighter and closer (not being filtered out as much)

manitoba1073 · « **Reply #46 on:** June 22, 2008, 01:22:54 am »

Quote from: marstone on June 21, 2008, 03:32:33 pm

Quote from: dragoon on June 21, 2008, 05:45:06 am
Quote from: manitoba1073 on June 21, 2008, 02:43:17 am
ofcourse to me the sun looked a little to close for it to be earth

Good point... I noticed that the sun seemed a bit too bright, but didn''t pay it enough attention.... what with being shocked etc.

Well, maybe due to air burst Nukes the upper Atmosphere has thined down and the sun looks brighter and closer (not being filtered out as much)

Just a tiny flaw to that. When you see the sun you are above the atmosphere out of any interference.

Father Ted · « **Reply #47 on:** June 22, 2008, 05:44:45 pm »

Just theorizing, but I see three possible outcomes:

1. The Cylons beat Galactica to Earth and wiped it out.

2. It's not Earth.

3. The writers ran out of ideas and just decided to rip off "Planet of the Apes", which will lead to lynch mobs outside their houses for ripping them off for 4 years.

Pestalence_XC · « **Reply #48 on:** June 23, 2008, 12:39:14 pm »

I see it as that they found Earth post WW III... Now they have to decide where to go or if to settle and rebuild the Earth.. will the Cylons and Humans continue their truce, and what about the other faction of the Cylons.. are they on their way also (remember that the Hybrids are interconnected)

And finally, the #5 of the final 5 cylons still has to be announced.

BUT we have to wait until Jan of 09, I think, to find out.

Spartan-039 · « **Reply #49 on:** July 04, 2008, 06:32:21 pm »

What happened in their WW III? Also, I think I like the third option you gave Father Ted..........*gets a noose ready*............. er...uh, I said nothing.

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