Topic: Announcing Slave Girls of Orion VIII

[NuclearWessels]

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Here are some of the goodies you will currently be able to do with the OCI:
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- something else, I forget. I'll post it later.

Paypal bribes to admins and RMs? 

dave

[Braxton_RIP]

- something else, I forget. I'll post it later.

Use your forum email address for your account you want to use on the OCI otherwise it won't work.

Don't complain to the management if said email account isn't what you use, because, in such case, the OCI is, in fact, not broken.  (Yes, it happens many a time whenever the OCI is used, so it still has to be said. )

[KBFLordKrueg]

- something else, I forget. I'll post it later.

Use your forum email address for your account you want to use on the OCI otherwise it won't work.

Don't complain to the management if said email account isn't what you use, because, in such case, the OCI is, in fact, not broken.  (Yes, it happens many a time whenever the OCI is used, so it still has to be said. )

We should include this part in the rules section, not AS a rule, just so players don't have an excuse why they don't know...IMHO...

[FCM_SFHQ_XC]

The first line in any SQL campaign info/rules thread should be "The OCI will not work unless you are logging into D2 with the SAME exact e-mail as the one you currently have as your forum e-mail. "

[Mithras]

Thanks for the replies, guys! getting hooked up now.

[deadmansix]

Can we have an up date on the server please

[Corbomite]

Want some feedback if DH and I rewrite this rule.

Disengagement/Destruction Rule

- If you are forced to Disengage in a PvP match, then you are banned from the hex you either took the mission in or were drafted in and all the hexes adjacent to that one for 15 turns. If your ship was destroyed then you are banned from that hex and all adjacent hexes for 8 turns.
- If you draft or are drafted while moving out of an area you have been banned in, the mission is to be played out normally, but any outcome for purposes of disengagement/destruction is voided and the banned time from the previous mission and hex doesnt begin until the current mission concludes.
- Black Hole hexes are free hexes and the Disengagement/Destruction doesn't apply to these hexes.
- One turn is 4 minutes.

That is the current rule. What if we changed it so that the player that lost points in that hex (got a ship destroyed that was worth points) can come back into it if they fly a smaller class ship than the one they lost and are drafted by an ally? Just throwing this out.

Why does a person who's ship gets destroyed have to be banned at all? I thought the initial intent of the Disengagement Rule was to discourage people from running and promote PvP by providing a penalty that might be worse than attacking. The loss of an expensive ship is bad enough or do you no longer use Cost of Build OOB?

[KBF Soth]

eg .  Say you were outnumbered and trying to take a hex.They have 7 you have 3. You're flying with both your allies.In PvP you kill  4 and in a mission with last 3.This rule gives you time to do your mission without the other 4 from running under you and flipping the hex ruining all that work defending the hex in the first place.As you can see the ban for dying isn't really that long.You would be suprised that quite a few fight to the bitter end and take the death ban over running away.

[Braxton_RIP]

Why does a person who's ship gets destroyed have to be banned at all? I thought the initial intent of the Disengagement Rule was to discourage people from running and promote PvP by providing a penalty that might be worse than attacking. The loss of an expensive ship is bad enough or do you no longer use Cost of Build OOB?

There hasn't been OoB for a number of campaigns now.  Anyone can fly the larger stuff, so long as the total number of points is below whatever the max is.

[Slider]

Want some feedback if DH and I rewrite this rule.

Disengagement/Destruction Rule

- If you are forced to Disengage in a PvP match, then you are banned from the hex you either took the mission in or were drafted in and all the hexes adjacent to that one for 15 turns. If your ship was destroyed then you are banned from that hex and all adjacent hexes for 8 turns.
- If you draft or are drafted while moving out of an area you have been banned in, the mission is to be played out normally, but any outcome for purposes of disengagement/destruction is voided and the banned time from the previous mission and hex doesnt begin until the current mission concludes.
- Black Hole hexes are free hexes and the Disengagement/Destruction doesn't apply to these hexes.
- One turn is 4 minutes.

That is the current rule. What if we changed it so that the player that lost points in that hex (got a ship destroyed that was worth points) can come back into it if they fly a smaller class ship than the one they lost and are drafted by an ally? Just throwing this out.

Why does a person who's ship gets destroyed have to be banned at all? I thought the initial intent of the Disengagement Rule was to discourage people from running and promote PvP by providing a penalty that might be worse than attacking. The loss of an expensive ship is bad enough or do you no longer use Cost of Build OOB?

I think the reason is is to keep people with inexpensive ships from constantly attacking a hex, at least for a time.  It's only an 8 turn ban if you lose you ship in that manner which forces the Hex flipping specialist to move elsewhere.

[Corbomite]

Why does a person who's ship gets destroyed have to be banned at all? I thought the initial intent of the Disengagement Rule was to discourage people from running and promote PvP by providing a penalty that might be worse than attacking. The loss of an expensive ship is bad enough or do you no longer use Cost of Build OOB?

There hasn't been OoB for a number of campaigns now.  Anyone can fly the larger stuff, so long as the total number of points is below whatever the max is.

Are there VC's for bagging kills or can you get destroyed as much as you like?

[KBFLordKrueg]

Why does a person who's ship gets destroyed have to be banned at all? I thought the initial intent of the Disengagement Rule was to discourage people from running and promote PvP by providing a penalty that might be worse than attacking. The loss of an expensive ship is bad enough or do you no longer use Cost of Build OOB?

There hasn't been OoB for a number of campaigns now.  Anyone can fly the larger stuff, so long as the total number of points is below whatever the max is.

Are there VC's for bagging kills or can you get destroyed as much as you like?

On most SGO servers Capitol ships have been worth points, but nothing is for sure until Dizzy releases a rules set for this one. 

[KBF Soth]

The list of capital ships and ships that are worth points has expanded from the standard BCH to BB .

[Kroma BaSyl]

Sorry if I missed it, but has a time for the start of the server been set yet?

[Hexx]

Sorry if I missed it, but has a time for the start of the server been set yet?

"Soon"

[KBFLordKrueg]

Why does a person who's ship gets destroyed have to be banned at all? I thought the initial intent of the Disengagement Rule was to discourage people from running and promote PvP by providing a penalty that might be worse than attacking. The loss of an expensive ship is bad enough or do you no longer use Cost of Build OOB?

There hasn't been OoB for a number of campaigns now.  Anyone can fly the larger stuff, so long as the total number of points is below whatever the max is.

Are there VC's for bagging kills or can you get destroyed as much as you like?

As an example, here is the PvP kill section of the rules from SGO7:

PvP Kills: (PvP Points)


- You earn PvP (Player vs. Player) Points when you kill enemy players. Report kills here: SGO7 Kills Thread 
- Total PvP points will be calculated at the end of each week to determine VC's. See below.
- PvP kills are worth the following points:

I-CCX  6  (1 move cost)
All other CCX/CAX  4  (1 move cost)
I-CLX 3  (.67 move cost)
CLX  2  (.67 move cost)
FFX/DDX  1  (.5 move cost)

BB:  16  (2 move cost)
CVA:  8  (1.5 move cost)
DN:  6  (1.25 and 1.5 move cost)
BCV/T - Carrier, Casual (2 PF's) or Full Tender (3+ PF's):  4  (1 and 1.25 move cost)
BC/H:  3  (1 and 1.25 move cost) (Includes all Lyran BC's with 2 PF's)
N/CA, N/CL, HDW's are worth 1.  (.67 and 1 move cost)
Smaller class types with 8 ftrs or 3+ PF's are worth 1.
Ships with a move cost of .5 or less are exempt unless they are involved in a fleet action with a live player wing, or used in a Multi-Ship Fleet, or deep striking in which case they are worth 1.
PF Flotillas are exempt unless they are involved in a fleet action with a wing in which case they are worth 1 only if the PF-(Flt) Leader is destroyed.
FF Squadrons are worth 1 if any two of the three FF's are destroyed.
- PvP kills do not apply in Black Hole hexes.

Line Ship Addition:
- A line ship(s) is exempted from the disengagement penalty unless opposed by another line ship(s).
- A line ship is worth no points if faced on a 1v1 by a BCH or larger ship.

[Corbomite]

Why does a person who's ship gets destroyed have to be banned at all? I thought the initial intent of the Disengagement Rule was to discourage people from running and promote PvP by providing a penalty that might be worse than attacking. The loss of an expensive ship is bad enough or do you no longer use Cost of Build OOB?

There hasn't been OoB for a number of campaigns now.  Anyone can fly the larger stuff, so long as the total number of points is below whatever the max is.

Are there VC's for bagging kills or can you get destroyed as much as you like?

As an example, here is the PvP kill section of the rules from SGO7:

PvP Kills: (PvP Points)


- You earn PvP (Player vs. Player) Points when you kill enemy players. Report kills here: SGO7 Kills Thread 
- Total PvP points will be calculated at the end of each week to determine VC's. See below.
- PvP kills are worth the following points:

I-CCX  6  (1 move cost)
All other CCX/CAX  4  (1 move cost)
I-CLX 3  (.67 move cost)
CLX  2  (.67 move cost)
FFX/DDX  1  (.5 move cost)

BB:  16  (2 move cost)
CVA:  8  (1.5 move cost)
DN:  6  (1.25 and 1.5 move cost)
BCV/T - Carrier, Casual (2 PF's) or Full Tender (3+ PF's):  4  (1 and 1.25 move cost)
BC/H:  3  (1 and 1.25 move cost) (Includes all Lyran BC's with 2 PF's)
N/CA, N/CL, HDW's are worth 1.  (.67 and 1 move cost)
Smaller class types with 8 ftrs or 3+ PF's are worth 1.
Ships with a move cost of .5 or less are exempt unless they are involved in a fleet action with a live player wing, or used in a Multi-Ship Fleet, or deep striking in which case they are worth 1.
PF Flotillas are exempt unless they are involved in a fleet action with a wing in which case they are worth 1 only if the PF-(Flt) Leader is destroyed.
FF Squadrons are worth 1 if any two of the three FF's are destroyed.
- PvP kills do not apply in Black Hole hexes.

Line Ship Addition:
- A line ship(s) is exempted from the disengagement penalty unless opposed by another line ship(s).
- A line ship is worth no points if faced on a 1v1 by a BCH or larger ship.

I can feel my brain start to leak out from my ears already.