Topic: OCI/Server Development poll! (Read 6839 times)

Bonk · « **on:** October 05, 2007, 11:18:04 am »

Some ideas I've been thinking about since I'll be home for the winter (got a job for the winter close to home!).

I have some really good ideas rolling around, but too many. If I were to put a little work into a project which would be best? You have three votes so you can stuff the ballot box for your favorite options! Feel free to suggest other ideas or comments on the options for projects.

Or maybe I should just by an X-Box 360 and Halo 3? (*cough* Where's Dizzy? *cough*)

Lieutenant_Q · « **Reply #1 on:** October 05, 2007, 11:23:50 am »

Honestly, I like OoB concepts a lot. Automated Kill reporting sounds good, other than that...I can't think of anything else.

Bonk · « **Reply #2 on:** October 05, 2007, 11:28:07 am »

Quote from: Lieutenant_Q on October 05, 2007, 11:23:50 am

Honestly, I like OoB concepts a lot. Automated Kill reporting sounds good, other than that...I can't think of anything else.

Completely automated kill reporting/logging is impossible due to mission instability and server quirks. Though semi-automated is, one way would be using a combination of the existing battle log and kills pages (just setup links from the battle log to the kills page that would automatically fill in most of the data for the battle... that would probably do).

FCM_SFHQ_XC · « **Reply #3 on:** October 05, 2007, 11:31:24 am »

OoB and the OCI I think have the most potential along with the actual serverkit development. I do have some ideas on each though.. I'll need a bit to collect all my thoughts for it though and post them..

KBF-Kurok · « **Reply #4 on:** October 05, 2007, 11:41:28 am »

Linux please ill be almost thru with windows then just have to teach the family the basics then im thru

Lepton · « **Reply #5 on:** October 05, 2007, 07:20:31 pm »

I'll just make a small case here. PvP DV shifts are something that we have never had and would most effect gameplay. Many of the other proposed options are implementations of things or improvements of things that have existed in other contexts.

Dfly · « **Reply #6 on:** October 05, 2007, 08:08:33 pm »

Excellent projects, all of them.

I feel the PvP shifts as very important, as well as being able to edit kills when errors are made. A few others are quite great and also important but to me those 2 come first, even though I did vote for 3 things.

Dizzy · « **Reply #7 on:** October 05, 2007, 09:36:23 pm »

Get back to the serverkit development and finish PvP DV shifts!

You do that and we wont need a hex ban rule! I think everyone will enjoy the game more when they know they can hop right back into the hex w/o waiting an hour or going somewhere elese where the action isnt.

And Halo 3 is purty cool!

IAF Lyrkiller · « **Reply #8 on:** October 23, 2007, 06:37:01 pm »

Bonk!!! you are back. We still need to get together.

odb · « **Reply #9 on:** October 26, 2007, 07:07:55 am »

custom shipbuilder? explaine. i think i like i like

Bonk · « **Reply #10 on:** October 26, 2007, 10:03:06 am »

Quote from: odb on October 26, 2007, 07:07:55 am

custom shipbuilder? explaine. i think i like i like

Well you see, the OCI reads ships from the shiplist and constructs them using that data. Our esteemed member Lepton pointed out elsewhere that:

Quote from: Lepton

Are you aware that the PHP code written for the OCI actually builds the DamageBlob and the StoresBlob by reading the shiplist file? Amazing! And who the heck figured out all the numbers in the DamageBlob such that this could be done? Amazing. Heck, at this point, you could build your own ship right in an online interface if the functionality were added.

Yes, of course I am aware, I wrote it! But it had not actually occurred to me to build ships on the fly according to user specifications. The idea would be that instead of loading files from the shiplist, why not write them out to it instead? I would use a web interface in the oci shipyards that lets you build your own ship (within limits) and write it to the game database and shiplist. Now such custom ships would not be able to be used until a scheduled server reboot (that will take some testing) and would require that all clients update (thus the other idea of an integrated OP campaign launcher/updater so that the game checks for updates before launching- been done before for eaw). So it's really two projects in one.

I think the easiest way to prototype it would be to have option mounts on some pirate ships. The benefit of this is that initial shiplists could be much smaller, reducing server load and simplifying shiplist QA testing. Caveat: the custom ships from the oci webyards would have to be perfectly bug free. I am confident in the ship building code I have and that it could be used this way effectively and creatively. Thanks Lepton!

Edit: this could make iteself into an OoB interface through the restrictions applied to custom ship builds and their time of availablility, and by recording the custom shipbuilds. They should cost lots of PP too... and be worth VC points...

Bonk · « **Reply #11 on:** October 26, 2007, 10:27:59 am »

Quote from: Lepton on October 05, 2007, 07:20:31 pm

I'll just make a small case here. PvP DV shifts are something that we have never had and would most effect gameplay. Many of the other proposed options are implementations of things or improvements of things that have existed in other contexts.

I agree, however, after thinking about it, I think its better if I leave the actual server development for a bit until things settle down and we get a few of the current issues worked out, then I can jump back in on it when it would be a good time to add a new feature.

So one of the other projects would probably be better for this winter. (Though I do intend to get those PvP DV shifts in there when the opportunity presents itself).

Lepton · « **Reply #12 on:** October 26, 2007, 07:02:59 pm »

Bonk,

Is there the possibility that PvP DV shifts could be implemented within the database through a set of triggers rather than having to alter the serverkit code? It's been awhile since I looked at this, but might it not be possible to trigger for resolution of battles between two human players on opposing sides and alter the DV values of the hex accordingly?

odb · « **Reply #13 on:** October 28, 2007, 12:29:31 am »

yo, I got only this to say:
If, one was to intergrate a moderated ship layout created by the individual user, Defined to his specifications, within limits to a reasonable BPV. Build that to a undefined number of hull class's that only support certain mod's or call it a weapons platform. Take this for example. Any type of hull from one class whether it be big, small, not defined to ships at this point, just a engine with standard componets, basic armaments. Say it be a size layout that is not loaded with any modifications yet. that size layout has a max an a minimum set of componets needed.
This is just me putting thought into a perspective, a idea, something to compare this to:
You guys just blew the door's off of sfc's next best thing. (Get it to work) Then allow it to function for sfc_op over at GamespyArcade when one is in the shipyard or spacedock. Don't bash me for saying this, but sfc3 in game playability just wasn't there. An that is just my opinion, as i do enjoy the game. Only the thing is the sfc_op In game playability, in my opinion is preferred. In order to complement your beyond awesome theory to a customizable "Shipyard/Spacedock" idea. Clearly the idea of a customization like sfc3 ships but for a sfc_op game even in its simplest functionability would keep me around for years to come.
Just the thought of a mass amount of players adjusting a gaming environment certainly adds a dynamic grasp of preferences the individual gamer loves, an to be able to test the results in a sfc_op server, even if not with gamespy, is truly what one so desires an strides for. Is it not our soul one intention to take a total number of points an find what fits owns own style of combat?
And the people that continue to provide diligently, the gaming services you so truly produce time and time aging, I have full confidence such a thought will soon be part of our hopefully neverending on line dynaverse gaming experience.

Dizzy · « **Reply #14 on:** October 28, 2007, 05:59:23 pm »

It'd be tough to agree with anyone who would attempt to argue that ship customization beyond Bonk's Orion Option mount system idea would be balanced enough to see massive competitive play online. So therefore if it's not balanced, you just won't see support from it from campaign designers.

Going beyond taking a ship's heavy weapon hardpoints and offering a limited flexibility of changing those around limited to that particular race's type weapons, wouldn't be balanced imo. No one's touched off on this... but let's take the Fed CA and turn it's 4 Photons into option mounts. What are the options? Ph1? B racks? ADD? This probably needs to be discussed... I just don't see the need to put something like this ahead of getting multiple PvP DV shifts done if there isnt consensus on an acceptable way of implementing this.

Lear · « **Reply #15 on:** October 28, 2007, 07:30:44 pm »

The ship is not fair has never been fair will never be fair. Fighters that can GUT a Ca in one
pass Droner Chucker that go speed 31 and freely drop drones at no cost in power.
Is Fair no it is Not unless you have the drones or the fighters.
Pardeck and others have left because of this it could bring back more members...

Dizzy · « **Reply #16 on:** October 28, 2007, 07:53:05 pm »

Quote from: Lear on October 28, 2007, 07:30:44 pm

The ship is not fair has never been fair will never be fair. Fighters that can GUT a Ca in one
pass Droner Chucker that go speed 31 and freely drop drones at no cost in power.
Is Fair no it is Not unless you have the drones or the fighters.
Pardeck and others have left because of this it could bring back more members...

Your whole post is entirely confusing. Who are you responding to, what are you trying to say and please reword your last sentence as it didnt make any sense.

odb · « **Reply #17 on:** October 28, 2007, 11:22:44 pm »

just the tought of even as simple as dropin a simple hardpoint an being allowed to refit it, an the refits even if its say a 2x photon tube gotta keep refits to the current selected race, an a cap on max amount of a single wepon. if even the refit had to be of equal or lesser bpv then the origional specs. not being allowed to a total fit as in start with a blank hull would keep it simple. get a basic workin system intergrated with op with minor maybe next to no modifications alloweed if the idea is interduced to the community in a workin enviroment just to let the players get a taste. of course providing the oci an the server's hold stable.

Dizzy · « **Reply #18 on:** October 29, 2007, 01:28:10 am »

I was thinking that the ship mod would be workable if it'd be able to take into account a preselected criteria format in which we can tag ships in the shiplist using the class and special role columns and then identify those HP's upon which depending on their race will allow you to alter their weapons. I'm sure even a timeline can be used so that certain weapons like plasma torpedoes and drone racks are available when they should be. I think it'd be pretty cool.

FPF-DieHard · « **Reply #19 on:** October 29, 2007, 11:00:45 pm »

Bonk's back from the Gulag?

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