I find some Lyran ships are quite well thought out in SFB.
In our last campaign the Lyran players made good use of L-SC (Survey Cruiser) carrying troop pallets to slip past our patrols and do annoying hit and run raids. A D5G & TTP just isn't the same, by comparison, to a L-SC & TTP. We were kind of envious.
They just spent their BPV points on the wrong ships mainly. Mainly a fe big capital ships and tried to make up numbers with PFs. We hardly saw a cruiser and then they were backing up the DNs, which we were shadowing with scouts so as to avoid them with our cruisers. Lyran DNs are something to take seriously.
However, they never actually saw combat with any of the DNs battlegroups they had deployed out there. Most of the time they were travelling backwards and forwards, always being in the wrong place and too late to catch us.
They also went more for L-DD+ than L-DW, mainly because of BPV expense.
We did find the odd Puma and Cougar tug, which are pretty leathal with the combat pallet fitted. These did chalk up a fair few of our frigates.
Perhaps your right about the players lacking experience and understanding of the variety of Lyran warships on offer and what their capabilities & limitations are.
We do, because we are using LAN, have up to 9 ships per side. One on one battles are extremely rare. Total chaos can errupt duing these battles and it takes a lot of cooperative team work to keep some sort of strategy going, etc.
They were on the backfoot as we mounted a complex attack on them before they could hit us and they'd set up their fleet for attack, rather than defence.
They haven't made that mistake in the new Kzinti - Klingon Campaign, hit us first and have advanced well over the border into Klingon space. Despite casulties (mainly the hapless Kzinti frigates), they are doing well, territory wise.
In a one on one game of a L-FF versus a Kz-FF, my money would be on the Lyran!! If it was a L-PF versus a Kz-FF, I'd still back the Lyran player!!
I'm just so used to flying well armed Klingon Warships, which are just so good!!
Lyran ships, from when I've played them, lack a ranged indirect fire weapon system (missile or torpedo), which is just so infuriating, as this means that all effective combat musts be performed at close range. The enemy wiil try to keep at longer range and use ranged weapons. The ESG is only good for ramming an enemy not familiar with this tactic. If not playing against a rookie, it is just a power drain. I generally turn it off and us the power more productively. I usually put it into shields or movement. Human oponents usually seem surprised that my ship is more sprightly than it should be.
The other hastle is the turn class usually being always less than enemy ships of similar class.
Now if the Lyrans could fire Drones, Hellbores, Photons, etc., then that would be an improvement. It has always been a handicap that Lyran players have to work with.
This must grate with other Lyran players as well??
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