Topic: Theres a picture in the Models folder? (SFC1 - Gold) (Read 3832 times)

hfleet2 · « **on:** August 13, 2007, 12:33:39 pm »

I noticed there is a sfc01 picture in the Models folder of Starfleet Command I ( Gold Version ) .. 4 guys standing. Any idea how it came there? .. is it just my copy?

Rod ONeal · « **Reply #1 on:** August 13, 2007, 02:23:41 pm »

You might need to post it. I have SFC1, but not installed at the moment

hfleet2 · « **Reply #2 on:** August 13, 2007, 10:26:09 pm »

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Roychipoqua_Mace · « **Reply #3 on:** August 14, 2007, 04:12:12 pm »

They might be the model designers for the game. I think I can see the picture of a K-B10 in one of those little photos on the wall.

hfleet2 · « **Reply #4 on:** August 14, 2007, 10:15:59 pm »

Why would they put their picture in there? .......

Age · « **Reply #5 on:** August 14, 2007, 10:21:59 pm »

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`I believe that is the 13 degrees east team at Interplay's Studios as I do believe as well that that is Erik with long curly seventyish looking hair as well as rest of them.

marstone · « **Reply #6 on:** August 14, 2007, 11:28:23 pm »

they guy with the black shirt and his eyes shut, isn't that the 13 degree's east symbol on his shirt.

(not unusuall for programmers or designers to slip in a personal pic or note)

The original Amiga 1000 computer had the signature of everyone on the design team inside if you opened it up, even the dog that helped design the special chips had his paw print in it.

Panzergranate · « **Reply #7 on:** August 21, 2007, 08:14:25 pm »

On the old A4000 was the message, "Amiga showed the way, then Commodore came and f**ked it up!!"

The old Oric 48K. ahd the message, "Hi Helen".

The Sinclair ZX Spectrum +3 had a whole secret programme that produced a 96 colour palette stobing background with the message, "I'm a +3" in large print across the screen.

As an qualified electronics design engineer, it is kind of traditional to leave ASCII messages in ROMs even on embedded systems, etc. It is somethnig that the construction industry has been doing with pieces of wood, paper, etc. dropped into walls for centuries.

Well at least Amiga is in safe hands with Gateway and back in production if only for NASA and the millitary.

marstone · « **Reply #8 on:** August 24, 2007, 12:49:58 am »

Quote from: Panzergranate on August 21, 2007, 08:14:25 pm

Well at least Amiga is in safe hands with Gateway and back in production if only for NASA and the millitary.

I miss my old A2000. May it rest in piece after drowning in the '97 flood of my town. (remove hat, bow head)

Panzergranate · « **Reply #9 on:** August 24, 2007, 10:58:25 pm »

So you didn't immerse it in distilled water for a day, fill it with Sila Gel and leave it to dry in an airing cupboard for a week and then raise it from the dead??!!

I've done this with several marine raios and a laptop immersed in sea water!!

<Pauses while Marstone screams out, "I COULD HAVE SAVED IT!!", headbuts desk, starts sobbing....>

Water doesn't kill electonics if they're not switched on!!

All you have to do is dry them out after washing out with distilled water!!

Some of the stuff I've had to fix in the past was so expensive that the bin option was a definate no no!!

marstone · « **Reply #10 on:** August 25, 2007, 12:43:37 pm »

well, it was the fact it was soaking for a few days (close to 2 to 3 weeks before we got the water out), and was a rusty mess when recovered from the basement. I probably could have saved it, but was more important to get the house running first.

But I do have a question, how could the old Amiga 1000 run a full muti-tasking windows like system with only 256k (I baught the memory expansion to 512k). Windows still hasn't fully caught up to what the Amiga did in the 80's.

Panzergranate · « **Reply #11 on:** August 25, 2007, 10:43:05 pm »

OK it is to do with how the processor runs machine code.

The 8086 does not need Windows to run multitasking programmes as it runs in 64 K.Byte segments of its 1 M.Byte memory address range. You can run several machine code programmes on an 8086 based processor and jump from one to the other. Windows is not anything special in doing this. Dos games could do this, etc.

Now it is possible to do the same thing on a 68020 (or was it the 68030 in the A2000??) where sperate programmes are loaded into memory in segments.

OK think of the executable programme memory as car parking spaces. On the 8086 you have 10 spaces of 64 K.Bytes each. You can park a piece of software in any of these slots and start it up or stop it and remove it. Sometimes the piece of software will need more than 64 K. Bytes so you let it grab the next space adjacent.

All Windows does is utilse this processor facility, that's all.

Uniix, Neutreno, Linux et all utilise this facility better, needless to say.

Your old A2000 was runnig theoperatng system in one executable segment and the game, etc. in another. It would just switch between them.

This is kind of difficult to explain without a white board or a pen and paper.

Analagies are never as good as a diagram.

marstone · « **Reply #12 on:** August 26, 2007, 12:08:20 pm »

The old A2000 actually still had the 68000 in it. They had upgrade boards to get the 68020 or 68030 for more speed. I do understand the mechanics of the multi-tasking (actually psudo tasking unless you have multiple processors). I only wonder is why did windows take until win95 to do what I was doing with my Amiga in 85. Even with my version of XP pro, I feel there are things my little slow Amiga did better (and faster, of course this is through a loving memory of my machine so it probably runs better in my mind).

One inovation that still hasn't seem to have hit welll is the processor card slot. Properly designed with a flexible BIOS you could buy one motherboard then decied what processor you wanted to add to it and not be stuck with only intel, or AMD, (and only a limited set of each at that).

Guess all in all, the Amiga was way to before it's time. I have been glad to have owned three. (A1000, A2000HD, A500) Don't forget the Amiga made the first cd based console machine also (a modified A500) that you could have upgraded into a full computer.

Panzergranate · « **Reply #13 on:** August 26, 2007, 06:24:58 pm »

Well the Amiga was only doing in 1985 what Macintosh was doing a few years earlier. I remember that the big joke about Win95 was that it was a near rip off of Mac OS 5 from a few years previous.

Its amazing that two of the best regarded home computers systems both ran with the 68000, which is a programmer's dream to code up.

What's always pissed me off with coding up the 80x86 based processors is the lack of registers compared to the 680x0 based processors. Also that only the Ax/Eax register can access the ALU. The 600x0 based processors can access the ALU from any register. Lack of registers was always the handicap of the 80x86 and meant that one needed double of more the clock speeds to acheive the same as a 680x0 processor.

Anyone know for certain who is who in the picture??

Heavens Eagle · « **Reply #14 on:** September 05, 2007, 09:35:59 pm »

Erik is definitely the partly bald guy on the left. I would not have a clue on the others. Maybe if Scott Bruno or one of the other old timers were to pop in we could ask them.

David Ferrell · « **Reply #15 on:** September 08, 2007, 05:42:04 pm »

Left to right:

Erik, Marc Hertogh, Zach Drummond and ???

It was taken in the Interplay building.

Thanks,

Dave

NuclearWessels · « **Reply #16 on:** September 08, 2007, 06:10:06 pm »

Holy Carp!

Good to see ya in here David! Wow!

dave

Heavens Eagle · « **Reply #17 on:** September 09, 2007, 01:51:50 am »

I guess Dave Ferrell's like me, trolls the forums till there is something to comment about.

NuclearWessels · « **Reply #18 on:** September 09, 2007, 07:30:03 am »

It's nice t'know, on both counts

dave

yochenhsieh · « **Reply #19 on:** September 09, 2007, 09:29:46 am »

I remember someone (David?) posted a photo of Taldrenites on the forums. Does anyone still have it?

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