Smiley, if i remember right as well Doesn't Azel/Atolm need to be asked permission as well as the design is his?
Atolm/Azel drew up a plan which I used as a guide to make the CA, so yes his permission should be secured too, however I have since been made aware that Atolm gave blanket permission to CJ to use Atolm's stuff in CJ's mods, but that still leaves out the person that took that 2D sketch and turned it into a complete model and textured it... me.
And what about the other 2 models that I did on my own? (Battleship and Warship, albeit canon designs)
I here stand before you all with an apoligie, It was indeed I, who sort confirmation to use any of the dominion ships for the Dominion alliance as it was indeed me who ported them, during this time i was working directly with Acidrain to aquire all permissions before he formaly quit the mod, he managed a few emails for me and sent me address to where i could contact people, Smiley i would like to offialy appoligies but i sent you 2 emails which where both returned to me and 1 after that i never got a response from, i waited 4 weeks before persuing the convirtion as Acid had told me, "If you cant get a response from them, port the ship over and just make sure you give full credits"
With respect, if you cannot get in touch with someone you should not just go ahead any use their stuff anyway. What email addresses were you using to contact me? Were these the same email addresses that 'Acidrain' gave to you? Didn't you think of asking around the community, or some of your Outalance team members for contact details?
This does not account for the incorrect information that was in the credits. If I was going to be picking up a mod from another team member and from then on be taking responsibility for it, then I'd do my upmost best to ensure that it was accurate and correct - you can't just blame someone else because they decided to quit and your were just acting on their instructions. There's a word for that: Scapegoat.
CJ Using exposure of our work, isn't the best way of gaining our permission, infact if these were my models that you used without permission i would be demanding that they get pulled out the Mod. Its kinda insulting to think that you consider using the number game (downloads, forum visits, ect ect) to persuade someone to hand their models over to you to use after you've already gone and not only modified them but added them to a mod without confirming everything with the author at least twice.
I took offence when CJ originally posted in this thread about the 'exposure' that the models had been receiving. I toned down my original response, but sod it F_W's post has prompted me to add to this - it doesn't matter who you are, how long you might have been around for, how many hits your forums get, how many downloads your regurgitated mods receive. It is the principle of it, and as the guy who's name is on the mod, as you have stated, you're responsible for ensuring that everything it correct and above board, otherwise it's your name that is dragged through the mud.
To try and bribe people with 'fame', while giving it a slightly 'for the fans' spin is just out of order, in fact it is insulting. It's not about getting models on to as many people's HDDs - it's the principle of it.
That's why this is called a community.
Topic: Not bothering to ask permission to port and then not giving credit either?! (Read 5502 times)