Topic: When does SFB time meet with Star Trek timeline?

[Panzergranate]

Klingon's have cooler looking ships than either the Lyrans or Kzinti!!

All Lyran ships have hydroponics decks so that the crew have somewhere to crap!!

Howcome there isn't a canine based race in Star Trek??

[Panzergranate]

Having played all manner of naval wargames over the years I can state categoriccally that SFB is nothing like a naval wargame.

It takes only half an hour to pick up the rules and play of  a system. It takes a long time to fathom SFB rules.

I've played Warhammer's Battlefleet Gothic ans their rules are clearly galleon style warfare set in space and so simple that a Pakled could understand them.

I devised a team gameplan in one game using the classic "Crosing the T" conbined with another classic naval maneuver, "Ship Baiting", which was Drake's tactic with the Spansih Armada. Apparently it still works on suckers in BFG as well!!

OK "Crossing the T" cannot be performed in SFB or SFC as cannot a few other classic naval maneuvers, so therefore it isn't a converted 20th Century naval wargame system. It's a lot more complicated!!

As for PFs and TNG small warships.... it isn't the fact that its a small warp powered ship, its the role it performs that is identcal to fast patrol ships in SFB that is identical.

[The Archduke]

SFU does have a canine race, the Carnivons.  Unfortunately, the Carnivons were essentially wiped out by the Lyrans and Kzinti in the early years.  However, their home world was never found and it is rumored that a couple of packs avoided detection so they could make a reappearance some time. 

Also, SFU does not include TNG stuff because they are not part of the license.  The official license ADB has from Paramount only includes TOS and TAS information.  It does not include anything from the Movies or later.  Due to this, SFU and ST have some major differences in respective histories.

[Panzergranate]

rBearing in mind that ENT has even less in common with TOS and TMP than SFB or FASA, I gave up long ago trying to decide which universe is going in the right direction.

As we're all playing SFC then the SFB timeline is basically in effect,which wanders off on its own course at the end of TOS. Throw in some of the FASA ships for late middle period onwards plus a few plausable Jackill's TMP designs and the SFC universei s about right and balanced.

ENT screws up badly with technology history, almost as if they'd sourced writers from soap operas who'd never seen a single episode of Star Trek ever. No attempt seems to have been made to guide writers so as to interface neatly with TOS technolgy history or even some TNG episode old technology history mentions. (Geordi mentioning the date of the first successful human transporter event, which contradicts ENT's use of the transporter!!)

I've actually realised that there is no bird based lifeforms portrayed in either Star Trek, SFB or FASA!! Obvisously it would be Corvid based as scientists today have acknowledged that Crows (a member of the Corvid family) are the next smartest creature on the planet and the only other creature to actually fabricate tools.  I keep one as a pet and they are unbelievebly smart compared to Cats, Dogs or Parrots. They also pee and crap seperately as they're ananomically different to normal birds.

A Corvid based life form would be interesting.

[The Archduke]

panzer, 

   Actually, I believe SFB does have an intelligent avian species in it. The Paravians are a race from the Early Years that were a nemsis of the Gorn.  Unfortunately, the Paravians lost a war to the Gorn and were blockaded on their home planet.  A sun snake dove into its sun and forced it to go nova killing the planet.  However, I believe there was some Paravian colonies in the Omega Octant.

[Panzergranate]

I would reckon that a bird base dpsecies, being more evloutionarily evolved than the Gorns, would be a threat to the Gorns.

Is there a moluusc based lifeform and if so, do they fear the possiblity of the French discovering their homeworld??

[The Archduke]

I don't actually have the module with the Paravians in it (yet, working on getting it) but from I understand it the Paravians and Gorns share common ancestors.  The Gorns were seeded on 4 different planets (3 close and 1 farther away).  One planet was struck by an asteroid that caused major damage and caused the Gorns to evolve into the Paravian birdmen.  The Paravians discover fossil evidence of the original lizards and think them somekind of demons.  When they meet the Gorn centuries later, they have a instinctual species reaction to them and start attacking them.  At first they are winning but end up losing and getting pushed back to only their home planet.


As far as I am aware, no muluusc based life form that I am aware of lol.....

[Panzergranate]

I saw a warlike snail based winged alien race. These were giant creatures the size of a horse and carried 4 heavy energy beam weapons on shell mounted gimbals on the front, sides and rear shell position controlled by a head mounted helmet. They also had limited personal deflector shielding to ilaser/plasma based nfantry and support weapons.

It was in a 1960's Sci-Fi book and these creatures were attempting to annex another alien world into their growinng empire. I have a picture somewhere of one of these creatures.

Anyway, intervention of an Earth science party determines that laying cables across the intended route of the attacking snail creatures and then powering them up electrivcally will kill the snail creatures. It works and they retreat.

These creatures are extremely agressive in the story and regard all other life as potential slaves. An interesting race ot be incorporated into the game?? After all the Kzinti are actually taken from  a non-Star Trek Sci-Fi story written in the 1960's.