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USS T'Lani NCC-3941 - Completed!
« on: July 20, 2007, 01:13:41 pm »
Hi all, this topic may be redundant, but I thought I'd round off the poll with an actual "release". So, here she is in her most voted for configuration (4/14/3 across a couple of forums), along with her history.

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USS T'Lani NCC-3941
T'Lani-class science cruiser












Owner/Operator: United Federation of Planets/Starfleet.
Type: Long-range/extended mission duration science vessel.
Availability: Limited. In service from 2275
Production Run: 40 ships, 2275-2280


Statistics
Length: 235.7m
Beam:   141.7m
Height:  73.9m

Armament
Phasers: Six (6) banks of paired Type-IV (Ph-3) emitters mounted on the saucer giving 720 degree arc;
Torpedoes: One (1) forward Hyde-York probe launcher/photon torpedo tube (as seen on Enterprise in 'STII:TWoK'); Firing rate: 2 per minute; Burst fire: N/A.


History - Development of the Science Cruiser Concept

Starfleet first began to look at developing a full-sized science cruiser right after its inception on 2161. The Daedalus class was originally going to be a fully fledged science ship with minimal armaments and tactical staff. However, the nature of the geo-political climate after the incorporation of the Federation with the initial confrontations with the Klingons and the Earth-Romulan War squelched this original configuration at the early design meetings. A more versatile and capable layout was finally adopted that incorporated aspects of all expected mission roles the ship could be expected to perform as the flagship Federation class. This is a tradition that continues to this day, and Starfleet cruiser-type starships are the most capable and versatile in service in Known Space.

As such, pure science vessels evolved into small, specialised ships as demonstrated in the early T’Pina and current Oberth classes. A small crew of scientists would embark upon a small vessel that could be easily and quickly constructed at civilian-grade ship yards, and then packed with the most advanced sensors and computers available. This allowed many civilian institutions such as universities and research groups to put together their own teams to investigate and research their own pet projects, then allowed the ships to be switched to a different specialisation with a short period in a ship yard.

Starfleet too followed this trend for surveys of new planets, in which a planet discovered and assessed by their exploratory cruisers would be visited by a dedicated science vessel that would exhaustively catalogue each lifeform - plant, animal, bacterial, etc - to give the planet its Guarantee of Suitability so that Federation planners could release it for colonisation or development.

Starfleet also followed this pattern for surveys and investigations of stellar phenomena, but it was found that the specialised science vessels were too small for extended analysis. While the single-mindedness of scientists in pursuit of their research is well documented, it was discovered that too many of them crowded aboard these ships, leading to Oberth class ships with a nominal crew of 40 personnel being packed to the bulkheads with upwards of 80 people. This strained the small ships’ environmental systems to the limits and further reduced the time they could spend on-station. Further, lab and computer time had to be either conducted in large groups or on a very regulated schedule for personal/individual team access. The spirit of scientific cooperation helped to defuse many pending ego-fuelled tirades.

A case study was made on the specific example of the Oberth class’ layout. While being 150m long*, most of that length is the huge "secondary hull" of the Oberth, which is actually just a massive sensor arrray**. It holds Deck 5 of the ship, which is really just an access walkway that gives physical access to the myriad of sensor packages mounted there for repairs, maintenance, and physical reconfiguring or removal of components. The forward end of Deck 5 also houses the ship's only photon torpedo tube/probe launcher. In a highly unusual design decision, Deck 5 is only accessible by Jeffries Crawl Tubes down the pylons, or by short-range transporter. There is no turbolift or standard stairwell access. It was implemented this way as it was envisioned that there would be very little use made of “Deck 5”.

The Saucer section is a bare 60m in diameter and contains a mere 4 decks, including the long, flat section that mounts the saucer and the warp nacelles. That long flat deck is the Engineering deck, and has no scientific or crew-related facilities behind the rim of the saucer.

Within the habitable Saucer section, 3 small bay cutouts are visible around the saucer circumference. The one at the 12 o’clock position in front is the tiny shuttlebay, holding a single shuttlecraft. The two bays at the 3 and 9 o'clock positions are access doors for two small cargo bays. Each holds a single workbee, but no more shuttles. Further to that are the bridge module, escape pods, crew quarters, sickbay, laboratories, and some very limited recreational facilities, all vying for space within the confines of the saucer’s 4 decks.

The study came to the conclusion that a far bigger habitable section would be greatly desirable in a ship assigned to an extended duration mission with broad appeal. The additional space could be used for increased laboratory space, recreational facilities, and allow the embarking of a far larger complement of scientists, though the crew would only increase slightly.

With the Organian Peace Treaty in effect between the Klingons and the Federation, civilian missions began increasing in regularity and volume through the 2270s. There were many fascinating stellar phenomena within the Klingon sphere of influence that scores of civilian institutions from across the Federation and many friendly non-aligned worlds were interested in, and the number of petitions to the Federation Science Council for expeditions began to reach fever pitch. It was decided to implement the proposals of the aforementioned study and create a dedicated science cruiser for extended duration science missions away from “shore leave” opportunities.


T’lani-class

With the request from the Federation Science Council, backed by their Oberth Case Study data, Starfleet R&D quickly came up with the ideal solution. Since the only problem was a lack of habitable/usable space, they would attach the superb Oberth-class sensor pallet to a standard-sized Class 1B starship saucer and nacelles. The internal arrangement of the saucer was reconfigured to give private cabins with built-in workstations for a maximum of 200 scientists as well as extensive recreational and “downtime” facilities on Decks 5 & 6. Private cabins for a maximum of 50 crew were sited on Deck 4, and Decks 2 & 3 were configured as the crew’s administrative centre, with 2 extra docking ports for personnel transfers. Decks 7 through 11 are almost exclusively dedicated to scientific facilities such as sensor arrays, laboratories, library computer rooms, real-time data uplinks to other institutions and facilities, and probe control rooms, though Deck 7 also houses sickbay, transporters, and the small cargo bays.

Engineering consists of most of the aft section of Deck 6, where an modified destroyer-type warp reactor is mounted flush with the upper surface of the saucer forward of the impulse deflection crystal.

For the coupling of the Oberth sensor pallet to the saucer section, a few variations were tried. The original plan to use the Oberth pylons was quickly discarded and it was agreed upon to use a destroyer-style dorsal neck, for the same reasons given above: it was deemed wasteful of power to beam down 10 metres to the sensor array, and civilian scientists may have objected to getting themselves dishevelled crawling down the curved, zero-g Jeffries Tubes. With the use of a dorsal neck, stairwell and turbolift access could be provided, as could additional conference rooms and viewing galleries.

It was decided fairly late on to add a full-sized shuttle bay to the design, but it was deemed that a science cruiser should have the ability to carry a scientific shuttle or two as well. A fully equipped bay with 2 shuttle capacity was mounted at the top of the dorsal neck at the rear edge, and allowed the storage of several more travel pods.

For defence, the standard saucer phaser complement of 6 banks of twin emitters is included, though they are downgraded from heavy cruiser grade Type-VI to defensive Type--IV phasers. The standard Oberth-class photon torpedo arrangement and complement is included, with 10 torpedoes firing from the probe launcher at the front of the sensor pallet. A standard destroyer-level shield grid is mounted.

With the destroyer-level power plant and SIF this vessel is capable of warp 6 cruising and warp 8 emergency speeds, and her sensor range is increased 200% over that of the standard Oberth, though maximum resolution is the same.

With the reduction of the tactical suite to Type 3 defences only, the extensive top and bottom saucer sensor emplacements were deemed unnecessary. The exploratory sensor suite of the Tikopai class was installed as standard.

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Kitbasher: Scottish Andy
Minor Retexturing: Scottish Andy
Scale: Scottish Andy
Hardpoints & Damage Points: untouched
Models & Textures used: Atrahasis’ Tikopai class, p81’s Oberth class, Lord Schtupp’s shuttlebay (for Atrahasis & Firesoul’s Salazar-class).
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Re: USS T'Lani NCC-3941 - Completed!
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2007, 03:41:44 pm »
Came out nice, man. Real good work.
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Re: USS T'Lani NCC-3941 - Completed!
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2007, 05:32:12 pm »
Good to see.

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Re: USS T'Lani NCC-3941 - Completed!
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2007, 09:23:58 pm »
I really like this one, and its story... I always liked the Oberth. Hope you plan on posting it sometime.

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« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2007, 02:38:21 am »
I like this one...A real beauty :)
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Re: USS T'Lani NCC-3941 - Completed!
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2007, 07:52:48 am »
Nice work Looking forward to the Game Release  ;D

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« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2007, 09:08:37 am »
A great class history. Seems plausible in most, if not all, iterations of trek.
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« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2007, 10:38:19 am »
I'm gratified to see she's been so well received, especially her history.   :)

I'd love to release her - she could be playable as the New Scout Cruiser or something, or an entirely new ship. Does anyone know how to contact the model makers Atrahasis, p81, and Lord Schtupp so I can get their permission to release?

Also, since I see a comment from Seraph, do I have your permission to release my Scorpio? (http://www.dynaverse.net/forum/index.php/topic,163376156.0.html)

The credits for the Excelsior fleet state: Fury of A Seraph, based on originals by GAFY and pneumonic81. How much of the Scorpio's pieces are yours, and how much are the "originals"? Would I have to get GAFY and p81's permission for releasing them, or just yours?

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Re: USS T'Lani NCC-3941 - Completed!
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2007, 11:17:34 am »
okay, i didnt upload the excelsior fleet - so I can understand the confusion. The excelsior fleet is nothing but kitbashes - there are no original pieces of my own in there. you dont have to ask permission from me, lol.
Furthermore, double-check the permissions thread, but I know p81 has a "just credit me" policy, not too sure on Atra or LS.
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« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2007, 11:37:04 am »
I believe Atra and LS are Ask Permission First. I knew I recognized the primary ship, it's Skinmans old Los Angeles Class  :P


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« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2007, 09:37:07 pm »
I see the parallels, but I really like this rendition.
I hope you get the permissions.
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« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2007, 09:08:47 am »
Well spotted, MP! I originally made this with the Los Angeles class, which is a design I really like. I just wasn't sure about the rather odd construction of the under-saucer sensor dome and the new impulse engine, so I totally remade Atra's Tikopai class in the Los Angeles format.

As for Atra, does anyone know how to reach him? I can't seem to find that "Permissions" thread Seraph mentioned, nor a listing for him in the Dyna members profile. I have found Schtupp's email though, and have already sent one his way.

« Last Edit: July 23, 2007, 09:30:35 am by Scottish Andy »
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« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2007, 09:33:54 am »
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« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2007, 10:00:04 am »
Excellent! Thanks very much Seraph. I've joined Atra's board and emailed him regarding my T'Lani.
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« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2007, 10:29:07 am »
D'oh! Thanks, Starforce. A thread inside a thread.
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« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2007, 07:54:28 pm »
D'oh! Thanks, Starforce. A thread inside a thread.


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« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2007, 09:21:37 pm »
lol... that's funny.
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« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2007, 11:11:33 pm »
bump for release news?

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« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2007, 10:43:43 am »
Just received Atra's permission today. The ship should be available by end of tomorrow, hopefully. I have to create a page for her.
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