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Offline Terradyhne

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Nothing more for the public
« on: July 20, 2007, 09:01:33 am »
Again there has been shown to me that some mod makers and converters have no respect for the rights and thoughts of the modelmakers, so i have decided to delete all released and made by me from sources for the public and will never release anything else i make in the Future.

I say goodbye to this community and thanx to all that have helped and supported me, sorry didn't thought it will end this way but you should understand my thinking.
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Re: Nothing more for the public
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2007, 09:39:39 am »
Quote from: Terradyhne on July 20, 2007, 09:01:33 am
Again there has been shown to me that some mod makers and converters have no respect for the rights and thoughts of the modelmakers, so i have decided to delete all released and made by me from sources for the public and will never release anything else i make in the Future.

I say goodbye to this community and thanx to all that have helped and supported me, sorry didn't thought it will end this way but you should understand my thinking.


Dude, if I have been thinking the way you do now, I would have left the community a long time ago.
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Re: Nothing more for the public
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2007, 10:27:16 am »
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
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Re: Nothing more for the public
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2007, 11:54:20 am »
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Re: Nothing more for the public
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2007, 12:41:01 pm »
*Hurriedly rechecks all his bashes and confirms no original parts were made by Terradyne*

I would also like to note that I've only "released" one model - my Zodiac class - which is only available for DL from my own site. They were LC Amaral's ships I bashed, and I got his permission before releasing it. I'm all about credit where it is due, so everyone should be aware that if i release any models, or even display them here without releasing them, I use MP's "release notes" template. All contributors are credited.
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Re: Nothing more for the public
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2007, 01:10:04 pm »
Who is the offender? We'll hunt him down!
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Re: Nothing more for the public
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2007, 01:23:27 pm »
I know i've bashed his stuff once or twice but he did give me a permission via email the first time :/
I mean, you know, I bash my stuff, so I respect all the modelers and if i did anything to offend em, I propably wouldnt get to bash their stuff :/
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Re: Nothing more for the public
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2007, 02:48:56 pm »
I've released an amount of his stuff as well, all with permission.

Terradyhne, if there's anything that I did up that I didn't have your permission to do so, please let me know!?
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Re: Nothing more for the public
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2007, 06:03:38 pm »
Quote from: darkthunder on July 20, 2007, 11:54:20 am
Quote from: Interstellar Machine on July 20, 2007, 10:27:16 am
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

I second that.

Ditto.

Terradyhne has an awesome skill at model making. He will be missed tremendously.

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Re: Nothing more for the public
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2007, 06:39:33 pm »
Let him go...He has every right to be pissed.  How many times does this BS have to be endured?  Seriously...when will people grow up?
I know Terra and I didn't alweays see Eye-to-Eye on things, but no modeller should have to put up with this BS.  So I support him and every other modeller or artist that chooses to do the same .
Remember this:
Respect and common courtesy
ask permission
No is no
No reply is not a yes, but should rather be taken as a no.

Oh, and just because we as modellers and artists post our stuff you a community...it doesn't mean its a free for all...I am totally aware that you cannot stop miss-use and other nonsense 100%, but damn it, this crap needs to be tempered.  And what peeves me the most is that this seems to be becoming more and more prevalent...so sorry mates I cannot disway a modeller from leaving or being pissed, rather I will support it(as I am here). 
We and our work are NOT extensions of other people's whims.
Now I know a good amount of you, so I know that all you are solid well -meaning guys...but you honestly cannot expect us not to get pissed-off about this kind of stuff.
So before you cry for people to "come back" and "don't leave", how about you really take a minute to fill that person's shoes, and see where they are coming from.

Terra, Good luck mate.
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Re: Nothing more for the public
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2007, 07:30:00 pm »
Yeah, i don't release my stuff because of why again?
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Re: Nothing more for the public
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2007, 08:49:42 pm »
Kinda sad really!

Perhaps some day "respect" will be the one word we will all have a better understanding of and be more willing to comply with.


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Re: Nothing more for the public
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2007, 10:32:17 pm »
Quote from: Furyofaseraph on July 20, 2007, 07:30:00 pm
Yeah, i don't release my stuff because of why again?

For you it is simple...

You like to work on allot of projects but as you get close to finishing one you move to the next and when you get 20+ WIPs going you finally complete one. You then think this is a good days work and go to bed in the morning you wake up and find your PC crashed during the night and wiped out all your HDDs. Since you like me never really back anything up "poof" all the work is gone and you don't have anything left to release anymore

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Re: Nothing more for the public
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2007, 11:01:02 pm »
Quote from: GotAFarmYet? on July 20, 2007, 10:32:17 pm
Quote from: Furyofaseraph on July 20, 2007, 07:30:00 pm
Yeah, i don't release my stuff because of why again?

For you it is simple...

You like to work on allot of projects but as you get close to finishing one you move to the next and when you get 20+ WIPs going you finally complete one. You then think this is a good days work and go to bed in the morning you wake up and find your PC crashed during the night and wiped out all your HDDs. Since you like me never really back anything up "poof" all the work is gone and you don't have anything left to release anymore

  ;D

Too too true.
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Re: Nothing more for the public
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2007, 02:37:36 am »
I've had this happen to me too many times to count. We have open modding permissions, but there are a few simple restrictions...I ask that the original readme be included, the original mesh maker be consulted and permissions secured (the biggest offense...just because I say yes does not mean one can tromp all over LC or Moonraker...they built the mesh, they deserve thier fair share of the credit.), and the models not be used in any for-profit product. Finally, NOONE can restrict usage of our meshes if they do a kitbash based on it, period. If you use our design to make your model, anyone can bash it, but they have to follow our original requirements. Simple.

It seems that people decide that open release means open party. We dont have to release this stuff for free guys. Even the guys that dont actually build the models...I used to be one of them, just designed the concepts, Atolm was one too....we at least deserve some kind of nod.

I hope you will reconsider, but I understand your frustration and feel your pain.
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Re: Nothing more for the public
« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2007, 02:51:45 am »
 when  and where did this happen Terra. looks like its more bustung caps time i see.
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Re: Nothing more for the public
« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2007, 03:05:38 am »
 :'(

Bummer Terra. You will be missed.

Does this mean that some of the stuff that I have done in Photoshop with your models should be deleted?

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Re: Nothing more for the public
« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2007, 04:33:19 am »
Someone from the A2 community is using and converting my SFC models for his A2 mod without asking for permission and even shows pics in an public A2 place.
Thats the reason why i decided to make not more releases for the public since this guy is doing this again and again.
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Re: Nothing more for the public
« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2007, 04:49:36 am »
Got an e-mail of this guy in the past mins that has the ask for permission in it and it explains that the post of the pics should have been some kind of asking for permission.
I told him that he always should ask for permission via e-mail and if there is no answer that it means no.

!'m still thinking over this problem and decide if i will release or let somone convert models from me for the public.
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Re: Nothing more for the public
« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2007, 06:41:57 am »
Quote from: Terradyhne on July 21, 2007, 04:49:36 am
Got an e-mail of this guy in the past mins that has the ask for permission in it and it explains that the post of the pics should have been some kind of asking for permission.
I told him that he always should ask for permission via e-mail and if there is no answer that it means no.

!'m still thinking over this problem and decide if i will release or let somone convert models from me for the public.
Better late than never I guess...
Whichever you decide to do, I'll back your decision, as this is about principles.
Again I'll say Good-luck mate.
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