Topic: UFOP Jupiter class Battleship wip...... (Read 8387 times)

Raven Night · « **Reply #20 on:** July 09, 2007, 01:33:00 am »

Wow....I guess A it is lol.

admiral horton · « **Reply #21 on:** July 10, 2007, 05:13:54 am »

great start and i vote A

darkthunder · « **Reply #22 on:** July 12, 2007, 09:22:07 am »

I'll go with option C

No, A looks the best to be sure. Not a big fan of the "micro-bussards" in front of the nacelles thou

Raven Night · « **Reply #23 on:** July 12, 2007, 02:44:17 pm »

Ive been thinking of redoing them. Perhaps something more "Ent C" ish, but more modular than round. Ill try a few things and post them.

Shadowfleet · « **Reply #24 on:** July 12, 2007, 09:26:28 pm »

Raven - please forgive my audacity at suggesting you change the design for the Leopard, Ares and Jupiter. But I think that if you used the nacelles you designed for the Falcon on all of them (with minor changes to fit in with their particular design/textures) you'd have one awesome little fleet.

BTW - from several other posts, I've noticed you don't seem to be proud of your Fed designs. I've downloaded every Klink and Rommie ship you've released and played them with pleasure. Often I'll just load them up in the modviewer and admire the art. These designs rival any of the aliens you've done! Thanks for all the hard work. I can't wait for the DL on these.

I think the nacelle below would look great on them all and it would also unify the designs with a uniquely Raven fed-tech look.

Raven Night · « **Reply #25 on:** July 12, 2007, 10:50:32 pm »

Thanks for the compliment. I think its important for all artists to be very hard on thier work. I have a long way to go before I am satisfied with my feds, but I'm starting to like the improvement.

As to the nacelles, I could do small varients of the "sneaker" nacelle I designed....what I probably should have done in the first place was designed a whole slew of nacelles, and then see if any fit that particular design.

Raven Night · « **Reply #26 on:** July 18, 2007, 03:00:44 pm »

Should I do some modifications on the nacelle if I put them on the Leopard? I think the size of both ships is about the same, so I could probably give it the same exact nacelles.

Shadowfleet · « **Reply #27 on:** July 18, 2007, 06:51:24 pm »

I vote yes. I love this nacelle.

Raven Night · « **Reply #28 on:** July 25, 2007, 04:47:22 pm »

Ok, before I change out the nacelles, I wanted you to have a look at this....

Should I go with no nosepiece? Also, I lengthened the nacelles as requested. I will try one more nacelle edit (upsized the buzzards a bit), and if you guys still dont like it I will consider using a modification of the Falcon nacelles instead.

FoaS_XC · « **Reply #29 on:** July 25, 2007, 05:13:10 pm »

I like this nose bit, definitely good to have a bit of a breakup. I like the nacelles, but you are right it does need a bigger bussard collector.

Raven Night · « **Reply #30 on:** July 26, 2007, 11:57:44 am »

Ok, I completely rebuilt the nacelle head. I tried to do a Defiant-like intake for the bussards, but it doesnt seem to work on a large ship as you can see.

I kept the fins, due to the fact that the fins contain shield generators to protect the busards from damage....after all, nacelles are the weakest part of Fed ships. I also reduced the forward length slightly, but can put it back where it was if you think it still doesnt look right.

I may tweak the nacelles a bit more, but you get the idea.

FoaS_XC · « **Reply #31 on:** July 26, 2007, 12:02:48 pm »

Much Better

Raven Night · « **Reply #32 on:** July 26, 2007, 12:52:30 pm »

I can make them longer......I would prefer not to make them wider, because they sit inside the trench to protect them from fire. I am open to all suggestions of course.

But yes, I am happy with the changes as well. I see what you meant...the small intakes did not work.

Shadowfleet · « **Reply #33 on:** July 26, 2007, 03:07:54 pm »

Ba ba ba bad the bone! Awesome changes.

Raven Night · « **Reply #34 on:** July 27, 2007, 07:07:25 am »

Quote from: Fallen_Warrior on July 27, 2007, 03:18:03 am

perhaps longer or even something a bit broken up say something in the trench between the bussards and warp grill

I planned on adding greeblies inside the trench between the warp plasma vent and the bussard on the front. The colors on the skinny mesh now are just for show, to give you an idea of where everything will go.

ModelsPlease · « **Reply #35 on:** July 27, 2007, 09:39:16 am »

I vote for A as well

OlBuzzard · « **Reply #36 on:** July 27, 2007, 09:56:15 am »

Quote from: Raven Night on July 26, 2007, 12:52:30 pm

I can make them longer......I would prefer not to make them wider, because they sit inside the trench to protect them from fire. I am open to all suggestions of course.

But yes, I am happy with the changes as well. I see what you meant...the small intakes did not work.

Longer would be good .. possibly make them AND the trench wider just behind the bussard area (somewhat tear drop style). Also .. dunno if you want to do anything to indicate a nacelle cap on the front end (behind the bussards as well) or not!

Just a thought or two. Frankly it's kinda hard to add anything to the work you have done. The changes you have made are excellent !

Raven Night · « **Reply #37 on:** July 27, 2007, 10:02:59 am »

I could try that......I'm guessing you mean a cap ala galaxy style? like a trench running around the nacelle just behind the bussards. I could also try widening the trench as well, and making it longer. Let me see what I can do.

Raven Night · « **Reply #38 on:** July 27, 2007, 10:28:19 am »

Ok, i made three more changes...two I like, one I dont.

First, the wider trench moving back to make the plasma vent wider works for me. It looks good, and doesnt take away from my original "in trench" idea. Second, the longer front is ok....not wild about it, but it still works.

I have to say I dont like the trenches on the side of the nacelles though. I think it breaks up the overall "pod" feeling of the nacelle. My intent was threefold with the nacelles...I wanted an ovoid shape to carry a galaxy cue, a minimized bussard to give cues to the intrepid, and the overall one piece design of the Sov nacelles...getting away from the head trench that the Intrepid and the Galaxy had. The trench doesnt work in my opinion, but Ill leave it up to you guys.

OlBuzzard · « **Reply #39 on:** July 27, 2007, 10:30:54 am »

Yes ... exactly .. but make it your own style ! AND .. right behind that cap ( IMHO ) .. should be the widest point on that trench. leave the width the same on the bussards ... and use that width (on the bussards) as the final width at the opposite end of the nacelle.

If the change does not look right .. just post a note .. it might not be the right affect to what your design needs.

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