Topic: More Airships. . . (Read 13874 times)

intermech · « **on:** June 23, 2007, 07:49:30 am »

I was browsing the internet, found and Aeronef website and was inspired. Here is my first attempt at a "nef."

Red_Sharif · « **Reply #1 on:** June 23, 2007, 08:45:09 am »

Neat concept. I'd still like to see you or another modeller try one of the steampunk starships you posted in the Unique Ships thread.

Nice work!

intermech · « **Reply #2 on:** June 23, 2007, 10:56:54 am »

Thanks for the support FW, I know it is out there, but it is fun.

Red_Sharif, I have started on one of those but have not gotten very far. What I am showing below is try number 3:

Red_Sharif · « **Reply #3 on:** June 23, 2007, 12:32:15 pm »

Quote from: Interstellar Machine on June 23, 2007, 10:56:54 am

Thanks for the support FW, I know it is out there, but it is fun.

Red_Sharif, I have started on one of those but have not gotten very far. What I am showing below is try number 3:

Looks like you are making good progress. Awesome work.

intermech · « **Reply #4 on:** July 07, 2007, 07:50:20 pm »

Here are some screenies of the nefs in game. I have changed all of the textures to that sapia tone to get the feel of the era while playing. However, I have included one color shot for those interested.

FoaS_XC · « **Reply #5 on:** July 08, 2007, 12:13:42 am »

Zat is cool!
i like how you did the Sepia - creative and artistic ^_^.

Reverend · « **Reply #6 on:** July 08, 2007, 07:28:21 pm »

I hope Atolm is seeing this; very exciting work!

Mackie · « **Reply #7 on:** July 10, 2007, 08:00:52 am »

PWNSOME :O
I want to try modeling some of these too

intermech · « **Reply #8 on:** July 10, 2007, 10:24:22 am »

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I want to try modeling some of these too

Go for it! I think there is a lot of room for creativity. I can't wait to see what you come up with! Of course, I have added my own twist on them, but here is a site (and some pics) that I used for some inspiration:

http://www.brigademodels.co.uk/Frames/VAN/index-content.html

atheorhaven · « **Reply #9 on:** July 10, 2007, 05:46:58 pm »

You got me playing around with one today.. I'll see how it turns out.

Mesh from scratch, textures from scratch, so I imagine that it'll look like crap next to some of the others..

(edit: well, at least I got it *sort* of mapped right..

Not done texturing it yet.. but here's where it sits tonight)

Thansk IM.. what a fun concept!

Mackie · « **Reply #10 on:** July 11, 2007, 01:55:54 am »

I keep forgetting that I still have this...
http://www.the-tcs.net/miscos/willyfin.jpg
with some modifications it'd make an ok aeronef

FoaS_XC · « **Reply #11 on:** July 11, 2007, 02:15:48 am »

Quote from: Mackie on July 11, 2007, 01:55:54 am

I keep forgetting that I still have this...
http://www.the-tcs.net/miscos/willyfin.jpg
with some modifications it'd make an ok aeronef

That thing's awesome.

You know, I have a fleet of blimps/zeppelins on here somewhere. I don't know what an Aeronef is, but it screams Ether/Steampunk.

Mackie · « **Reply #12 on:** July 11, 2007, 03:55:20 am »

Yes yes ive wasted a couple of polies (well more than that) on the details but ill cut them down once im done (if i get done) with textures :p

and on yeah interstellarmachinedude, could you possibly send a bunch of your ship textures (nefstylee) my way as im completely useless trying to create any of my own right now

themackie@gmail.com

intermech · « **Reply #13 on:** July 11, 2007, 08:01:47 am »

Man, that stuff all looks good! Atheorhaven, I really like the wings on your design, ribbed structures are difficult to do. Mackie, I like both your willyfin and your new WIP, they both look great.

Polygon-wise, there are a lot of cylinders on one of these things, that eats up your polies pretty quick. I am disappointed that to be able to adequately play mine in game, I am having to use alot of 5-sided "cylinders." Any suggestions or tricks out there to save on polygons and not sacrifice the look?

Mackie · « **Reply #14 on:** July 11, 2007, 08:13:53 am »

Quote from: Interstellar Machine on July 11, 2007, 08:01:47 am

Man, that stuff all looks good! Atheorhaven, I really like the wings on your design, ribbed structures are difficult to do. Mackie, I like both your willyfin and your new WIP, they both look great.

Polygon-wise, there are a lot of cylinders on one of these things, that eats up your polies pretty quick. I am disappointed that to be able to adequately play mine in game, I am having to use alot of 5-sided "cylinders." Any suggestions or tricks out there to save on polygons and not sacrifice the look?

Thanks dude :> I am a little disappointed in my skills to make make the ships look 'old', though :/ hoping that your textures will help, thanks for them too :>
as for cylinders, i dont think theres any golden road for saving polies and having quality at the same time im afraid.... I personally just have a habit of first normally making the ship regardless of polies and once i've applied teh textures I cut polies with what tools lightwave 8.5 has :>

Mackie · « **Reply #15 on:** July 11, 2007, 02:02:05 pm »

alright heres another one, im just about done texturing the first one but since i cant unwrap for sh*t im having to set uvs for every single goddamn detail so it gets bit tedious after a while...

atheorhaven · « **Reply #16 on:** July 11, 2007, 02:33:08 pm »

Heheh.. I actually cheated on those IM.. they're textured in. For the wings, I started off with a rectangle that had a number of chunks in it, and then rotated and twisted a couple of times.. then mirrored the one wing to get the other side. Nicest part of the mesh is the rear structure, but it's all still pretty amature. I know that I'm not the best mesher out there, but doing this was more to have fun anyways..

Did a bit more work on the upper deck today, and will be adding a cargo/shuttle bay as well..

FoaS_XC · « **Reply #17 on:** July 11, 2007, 02:48:17 pm »

Hey Mackie - things are lookin' good so far, but because of Lightwaves GI its hard to see the shape of the hull (as opposed to the details, which one can see perfectly) can you throw a groundplane into your scenes?

Mackie · « **Reply #18 on:** July 11, 2007, 02:53:19 pm »

Quote from: Furyofaseraph on July 11, 2007, 02:48:17 pm

Hey Mackie - things are lookin' good so far, but because of Lightwaves GI its hard to see the shape of the hull (as opposed to the details, which one can see perfectly) can you throw a groundplane into your scenes?

er its not because of lightwave but rather because im a slacker cutting down on rendering time (only rendering the details and rest so and so) xD
http://www.the-tcs.net/miscos/aeronef1.jpg
heres the first ship from a few hours ago

FoaS_XC · « **Reply #19 on:** July 11, 2007, 02:57:01 pm »

NICE!

I love the coat of arms.

intermech · « **Reply #20 on:** July 11, 2007, 03:54:14 pm »

WOW! that is looking great!

Mackie · « **Reply #21 on:** July 11, 2007, 04:53:29 pm »

here you have a finished ship, im not done with the first one yet as im not satisfied with it.

The person who knows what ship was the inspiration for that gets a cookie :>

intermech · « **Reply #22 on:** July 11, 2007, 07:08:23 pm »

It looks like any of the City Class river iron clads. Otherwise I would say CSS Virginia (Merimack). Is that right?

Mackie · « **Reply #23 on:** July 12, 2007, 04:06:13 am »

Quote from: Interstellar Machine on July 11, 2007, 07:08:23 pm

It looks like any of the City Class river iron clads. Otherwise I would say CSS Virginia (Merimack). Is that right?

hehheh yeah

intermech · « **Reply #24 on:** July 12, 2007, 10:14:27 am »

With Mackie and Atheorhaven doing these hi-quality models, I was inspired to start revamping my nefs. I added about 700 polygons and made a separate texture for it:

Mackie · « **Reply #25 on:** July 12, 2007, 11:33:34 am »

Quote from: Interstellar Machine on July 12, 2007, 10:14:27 am

With Mackie and Atheorhaven doing these hi-quality models, I was inspired to start revamping my nefs. I added about 700 polygons and made a separate texture for it:

_sweet_

tbh theyre only seemingly high quality since im yet to optimize them, as said i first sorta flesh out the models and then reduce polies :>
the second nef is only something like 2000 polies as it stands even right now, but that amount will go down too :p

intermech · « **Reply #26 on:** July 12, 2007, 12:33:56 pm »

Here is a smoke effect I will be trying in game. Milkshape shows it pretty well, but the real test will be SFC3 engine.

Mackie · « **Reply #27 on:** July 12, 2007, 12:42:40 pm »

Quote from: Interstellar Machine on July 12, 2007, 12:33:56 pm

Here is a smoke effect I will be trying in game. Milkshape shows it pretty well, but the real test will be SFC3 engine.

its pretty awesome in a picture but I cant imagine it looking too good when its moving along statically with the model

intermech · « **Reply #28 on:** July 12, 2007, 01:22:49 pm »

Yeah, I think you are right. I still want to give it a try, it should at least make for some interesting screenshots.

intermech · « **Reply #29 on:** July 16, 2007, 06:35:06 am »

Bump for updates on Mackie and Atheorhaven's ships!

Mackie · « **Reply #30 on:** July 16, 2007, 11:25:18 am »

no updates as of yet i think im abandoning the first ship for now and creating some others

intermech · « **Reply #31 on:** July 16, 2007, 11:48:12 am »

Yes FW, I used tga's for the smoke, handrails, and propellers.

Mackie, I am saddened about the shelving of the first design, please don't trash the mesh, I am sure it could be used somewhere. I can't wait to see your new designs.

atheorhaven · « **Reply #32 on:** July 16, 2007, 11:55:19 am »

Quote from: Interstellar Machine on July 16, 2007, 06:35:06 am

Bump for updates on Mackie and Atheorhaven's ships!

Texturing complete, tested in SFC 1 demo (my usual test bed), just need to scale it down to not be a monsterous size.

Once that's done, light maps next and SFC 3 treatments.. though might adjust one of the textures slightly..

Mackie · « **Reply #33 on:** July 16, 2007, 06:29:25 pm »

Quote from: Interstellar Machine on July 16, 2007, 11:48:12 am

Yes FW, I used tga's for the smoke, handrails, and propellers.

Mackie, I am saddened about the shelving of the first design, please don't trash the mesh, I am sure it could be used somewhere. I can't wait to see your new designs.

nah man dont get me wrong i did say 'for now' as im mostly just lacking the inspiration to do the texturing

intermech · « **Reply #34 on:** July 21, 2007, 07:08:02 pm »

Here is another one. Considerably smaller than the others.

Mackie · « **Reply #35 on:** July 22, 2007, 07:37:00 am »

Quote from: Interstellar Machine on July 21, 2007, 07:08:02 pm

Here is another one. Considerably smaller than the others.

Thats awesome

kinda like what i was thinking of doing :p

Mackie · « **Reply #36 on:** July 23, 2007, 09:10:05 pm »

Since i've sorta lost my inspiration for the time being i thought i'd show you something of interest that'd look pretty awesome as an aeronef :p

intermech · « **Reply #37 on:** July 24, 2007, 07:14:07 am »

That is a pretty sweet ship there. I love the bow ram.

Mackie · « **Reply #38 on:** August 23, 2007, 09:48:14 am »

Alright I feel a bit humbled right now... I just cant get my self to finish this damn thing so i figured i should release what i have this far if anyone would like to have a shot at it (wink wink interstellar) so that it wouldnt be a complete and utter waste

http://www.the-tcs.net/misc/macksneff.zip

Within the file, there are the textures and the model in .lwo, .cob, .x and .obj formats...
I tried 3ds but I couldnt get the model to convert right, deepexplo (the program i use for file conversions) butchered it every time because it seemed like it wanted to triple the model. TWICE

atheorhaven · « **Reply #39 on:** August 23, 2007, 04:23:34 pm »

I'll give it a shot when I get home Mackie..

Mine isn't completed yet (along with some other SFC projects) because I'd started another, different, sort of project.. this was inspired by this and the steampunk mods I was looking at. Had it drop into my hands, had the stuff, hence the project..

(details at: http://atheorhaven.myblogtwo.com/ )

Don't want to steal the thread.. just want people to know why I've not released the stuff still on my plate..

atheorhaven · « **Reply #40 on:** December 23, 2007, 12:41:07 pm »

Finally got the aeronef scaled.. and it's play tested at the new size in SFC 1. Here's a screenshot..

(ps: wanted to get this out in some form before Christmas).

Have to warn you, my meshing on this one is pretty hideous.. :p

Just have to upload it somewhere (will probably be Battleclinic).

And here's the SFC 1 link:
http://www.battleclinic.com/docks/dock.php?id=4574#4574

(update: And the SFC 2 link:
http://www.battleclinic.com/docks/dock.php?id=4575#4575

(third update: And a SFC 3 link:
http://www.battleclinic.com/docks/dock.php?id=4576#4576

Had more time on this than I thought that I'd get, below shot show what I did for glows:

intermech · « **Reply #41 on:** July 24, 2008, 08:06:30 am »

Back on the flying ship thing. . . thought I would post my latest:

**M23** · « **Reply #42 on:** July 24, 2008, 09:02:07 am »

Thats really cool... i love it

SYLAR · « **Reply #43 on:** July 26, 2008, 08:12:40 am »

That is pretty funky, the last one shows great progress.

intermech · « **Reply #44 on:** July 28, 2008, 09:57:30 am »

A couple in-game shots. . .

The first is a slight re-dress of the one I showed earlier. The second is the enemy ship.

FoaS_XC · « **Reply #45 on:** July 29, 2008, 04:52:25 pm »

dear god please post more.

Relevant images ^_^

http://www.isotx.com/uploads/Ome_Vince/Rahmos9-1200x745.jpg
http://www.isotx.com/uploads/Ome_Vince/dreadnoughtbig1.jpg
http://www.isotx.com/uploads/Ome_Vince/indomitable-cruiser.jpg

intermech · « **Reply #46 on:** July 30, 2008, 01:02:57 pm »

Those are completely awesome pictures, where are they from???!

FoaS_XC · « **Reply #47 on:** July 30, 2008, 03:50:02 pm »

Some Universe called "Iron Grip"

Hey Interstellar, would you mind emailing me your models? I'd love to play with the textures.

intermech · « **Reply #48 on:** July 30, 2008, 04:13:36 pm »

I will see what I can do but it would be at the earliest tomorrow. Thanks for the interest, there is just something about flying ships . . .

FoaS_XC · « **Reply #49 on:** July 30, 2008, 04:59:03 pm »

many thanks

Rob@Robinomicon.com is the best place to send it.

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