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Sacagawea Class (runabout? frigate?)
« on: April 28, 2007, 05:31:11 am »
Just found a concept sketch of ST-online game...
http://www.startrekonline.com/gallery/viewimage.php?STOSacagawea.jpg

According to its desinated size (24.8 m), I guess it might be a runabout or small craft. But if you change the windows, I think it might be a nice frigate or escort for late TNG era. ;)

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Re: Sacagawea Class (runabout? frigate?)
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2007, 01:45:32 pm »
The design in that image IS a Late TNG-era Runabout :P
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Re: Sacagawea Class (runabout? frigate?)
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2007, 07:46:45 pm »
Just found a concept sketch of ST-online game...
http://www.startrekonline.com/gallery/viewimage.php?STOSacagawea.jpg

According to its desinated size (24.8 m), I guess it might be a runabout or small craft. But if you change the windows, I think it might be a nice frigate or escort for late TNG era. ;)


You know, you're on to something.  I could seriously see this ship as say an armored battle frigate, or armored troop carrier frigate.
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Re: Sacagawea Class (runabout? frigate?)
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2007, 02:01:16 am »
Im diggin that, really like that ship. if their are no other takers i might give it a go  :)

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Re: Sacagawea Class (runabout? frigate?)
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2007, 02:59:45 pm »
Im diggin that, really like that ship. if their are no other takers i might give it a go  :)

Please do, I would love to see your take on it.

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Re: Sacagawea Class (runabout? frigate?)
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2007, 07:42:05 am »
cool.... i'll take it up.

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Re: Sacagawea Class (runabout? frigate?)
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2007, 01:36:43 am »
well, it's been a month, ever get anywhere on this Geks?

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Re: Sacagawea Class (runabout? frigate?)
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2007, 03:11:04 am »
Finally another ship with the variable geometry warp nacelles.

And here I was thinking Voyager was a one-off experiment thingy.

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Re: Sacagawea Class (runabout? frigate?)
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2007, 09:13:50 pm »
Finally another ship with the variable geometry warp nacelles.

And here I was thinking Voyager was a one-off experiment thingy.

Don't forget the folding nacelles on the Delta flyer.

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Re: Sacagawea Class (runabout? frigate?)
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2007, 01:42:45 pm »
well, it's been a month, ever get anywhere on this Geks?

I believe that he's been deployed abroad.

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Re: Sacagawea Class (runabout? frigate?)
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2007, 10:04:50 am »
How about the new Ent-F (or G)...
 

 
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Re: Sacagawea Class (runabout? frigate?)
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2007, 08:02:24 pm »
if some better views are available that looks to be an interesting ship.

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Re: Sacagawea Class (runabout? frigate?)
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2007, 09:00:56 pm »
Its not a friagate or runabout, but a CLIPPER!! You know like an Atco, Calmoan, etc. Doesn't anyone read any Federation recognision stuff??!!

The definition of a CLIPPER is a border patrol craft in Federation tactical manuals.  In the Klingon tactical manuals they're defined as something used to align targeting scanners and test weapons on lduring ong, boring border patrols.

A CLIPPER is about the same size as a CORVETTE , such as the Defiant or a Renner Class, for example, but differs in role. CORVETTEs are used for internal patrols and escort duties, CLIPPERS are used solely to patrol and monitor border activities. Both are reasonably armed for their size.

Klingons use SKIFFS such as the J3 or G2 in a similar role.

On crossing the Federation border a hostile vessel or force would first run into the Clipper patrolling that sector. The Clipper's job is to alert Star Fleet Command of the intrusion and attempt to destroy, delay, repel or damage the intruder (s) until point defence vessels like an Akula Class or Agilis Class perimetre action ship can take over.

These will then attempt to destroy, delay, repel or damage the intruder(s) until larger perimeter action ships  can join in the fray.

The object is to buy time for the admirals to decide and respond to the hostile action with the main fleets.

I hope that this clarifies how the Federation tactical scheme works. It's all in Ships of the Fleet Volume 3 anyhow.

I downloaded a Sacagawea Class last year but it was a TMP period command cruiser someone had modelled from a book.

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Re: Sacagawea Class (runabout? frigate?)
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2007, 03:32:47 am »
At 24.8 meters it sounds more like a day sailer than a clipper. For comparison it's about the same size as an F-111 fighter-bomber (crew of 2) at 22.4 meters.
I've never read the book that you're referencing. So, I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just wondering if you noticed the stated size of it? Seems too small for the role that you're giving it.
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Re: Sacagawea Class (runabout? frigate?)
« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2007, 01:23:33 pm »
I saw it on a site about a month or so ago.

I quite like clippers, reminisant of the WW2 MTB and PT boats. Small but determined little things.

There in there somewhere between PFs and Corvettes size wise.

Jackill's books mentions clippers in fleet OBs but doesn't actually show any.

Battle Clinic has the Calmoan and Atco downloadable.

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