Topic: Kzinti ship WIP * UPDATE 06-21-07* (Read 7520 times)

Sandman3D · « **on:** June 14, 2007, 12:12:52 am »

Well, decided to start my own thread rather than hijack Kats'.

I'm liking the way this is turning out...changing a few things that I feel make the ship more balanced...at this point using the pics that Kat posted for basic reference only...putting my own spin on things.

As she stands now, poly count is 2008...still need to do the nacelles. Since I'm changing things some, what do you think about adding another nacelle? Make it a 4 banger rather than a 3? Maybe a couple drop bays on the underside, since we dont really get a view of it? Let me know.

OK, here she is so far...

Dizzy · « **Reply #1 on:** June 14, 2007, 12:29:43 am »

Chuut could probably help you here. 3 engines may make for a good CL or War Destroyer. I hope we can use your parts modularly so a whole fleet can easily be bashed. But give us some ideas of how it would look with 3 or 4 engines. Symetrically speaking, since it has 2 drone wing pylons, 3 engines would seem good, but i need to see what 4 would look like.

Is that a CL or CA size ship? Looks like a CL... CA should be beefier mb...

Sandman3D · « **Reply #2 on:** June 14, 2007, 12:36:45 pm »

OK, here she is with her engines in place...stayed with the 3 nacelle design...tried 4 but it didn't look right. She looks pretty good so far...tell me how detailed you want her mesh wise...she comes in at a little under 3000 polies...and I haven't started trimming yet.

I figure I can add some detail without getting out of hand...maybe.

OK, here she is...

Dizzy · « **Reply #3 on:** June 14, 2007, 01:47:27 pm »

Nice. I think the warps should be a little bigger, especially in relation to the huge drone pods.

Norsehound · « **Reply #4 on:** June 14, 2007, 09:06:07 pm »

yeah warps bigger. That aside, looks marevelous

Red_Sharif · « **Reply #5 on:** June 14, 2007, 09:19:26 pm »

Length of the nacelles looks okay, but I would go thicker and more oval than circular.

Starforce2 · « **Reply #6 on:** June 15, 2007, 11:53:55 pm »

don't forget to model on those intercoolers, they may add poly but who cares.

Sandman3D · « **Reply #7 on:** June 19, 2007, 01:37:26 am »

Well, started doing some detailing...up to a little over 5000 polies so far, but definitely worth it...looks good with them things.

OK, here she is...

Rod ONeal · « **Reply #8 on:** June 19, 2007, 01:59:01 am »

Yeah. Makes a big improvement!

Starforce mentioned the "intercoolers" (I think they might be plasma injectors). They'd add a lot to the nacelles, IMO. I hope you can squeeze them in as well.

I looked at this model a couple of times, but could never get a good start that I liked with it. Nice going, Sandman.

Dizzy · « **Reply #9 on:** June 19, 2007, 04:27:57 am »

That's very cool!

Sandman3D · « **Reply #10 on:** June 19, 2007, 11:09:35 pm »

OK, finished the deflector, added the inter-coolers and the missile tubes...ploy count is 6635. Think I should go higher? I generally try to keep it around this many polies...but being gone a year not sure if most people can the higher poly models or not? Anyway, atheorhaven has generously agreed to do the paint job for this puppy...and a couple others along this line.

So I'll be sending it to him if y'all think it's got enough polies. And yes, I realize the warps are the same...I felt they were right for this design. Asthetically the flattened oval shaped ones in the designs are great, but practically I feel they don't denote a true pre-TOS design even for an alien species. My own preference coming out I guess.

Well, here's a look at her...

Dizzy · « **Reply #11 on:** June 20, 2007, 01:53:13 am »

WOW DUDE!

KAT Chuut-Ritt · « **Reply #12 on:** June 20, 2007, 02:02:10 am »

Does Happy Kitty Dance!!!!!

KAT Chuut-Ritt · « **Reply #13 on:** June 20, 2007, 02:09:22 am »

I hope that when it is "painted" we can get the sybol of the Fanged god added. I also hope a tad of detail can be added to the bridge to add those window viewports

Dizzy · « **Reply #14 on:** June 20, 2007, 02:18:46 am »

windows are all textures and illumination.

Red_Sharif · « **Reply #15 on:** June 20, 2007, 06:22:37 am »

Very nicely done, sir! I say send her to the paintshop ASAP so we can get this beauty into the game.

So has anyone decided what class of ship this is? Considering the scale of the bridge superstructure, I would think this is a large ship indeed. If that is the case, though, aren't the drone launchers a bit oversized? Just thinking out loud here.

Dizzy · « **Reply #16 on:** June 20, 2007, 09:36:59 am »

Quote from: Sandman3D on June 19, 2007, 11:09:35 pm

OK, finished the deflector, added the inter-coolers and the missile tubes...ploy count is 6635. Think I should go higher?

Nope. I dont like my models going over 7k.

Looks way cool just as it is.

Panzergranate · « **Reply #17 on:** June 20, 2007, 01:36:59 pm »

How about a CH or CHW for the class??

Maybe a CB??

Sorted out the hardpoints yet?? It'll need a couple of forward disrupters mounts just off the centre line. Maybe two waist phaser mounts and two aft phaser mounts.

Can't wait to kill something with one!!

Rod ONeal · « **Reply #18 on:** June 20, 2007, 05:09:09 pm »

I'd make it a CS and roll with it from there. Other classes can then be derived from that starting point. She's Kzinti. So, she'll need a lot of phasers.

The drone launchers are a bit of a paradox, IMO. I think that they should be large. They're basically ICBMs. Then they won't fit on fighters though.

Bernard Guignard · « **Reply #19 on:** June 20, 2007, 05:55:41 pm »

Great work there It's looking very good looking forward to seeing it textured

Sandman3D · « **Reply #20 on:** June 20, 2007, 09:14:53 pm »

Wow, guys thanx for the compliments!!

I was afraid one of those old flamers might come around and piss me off again...knock on wood lol.

Ok then, time to map her and send her to Alec for painting. Uhhh...btw...do I do hp/dp 1st or last...and it's dummy oblects right? Geez, what you forget when you don't do something for awhile!!

Rod ONeal · « **Reply #21 on:** June 20, 2007, 09:29:21 pm »

I usually HP/DP last (after the brk.mod). She did come out nicely, BTW. Incase I didn't make that clear.

Dizzy · « **Reply #22 on:** June 20, 2007, 09:48:53 pm »

I'd suggest HP this one on the Mirak CA UI. I'll defer to Chuut, tho, he's a Mirak expert and will know what size class this best fits in.

Panzergranate · « **Reply #23 on:** June 21, 2007, 10:04:57 am »

So what sort of phasers then?? Ph3?? Ph2??

Would need a good few to fend off hostile drones.

The Kzinti spend just as much time fighting each other in occasional civil disputes between dukedoms as they do fighting the Lyrans!!

It's only their mutal hatred of the Lyrans that stops them fighting!! Talk about felines being catty!!

The ship definately looks cool when compared to the usual "Flying Salamader" look of TOS and TMP period 1980's SKYTREX model ships. Kzinti ships are always a bit behind when it comes to warp power usually.

There seems to be no such thing as a poorly armed Kzinti warship!!

Sandman3D · « **Reply #24 on:** June 21, 2007, 11:30:00 pm »

OK, had to share this with y'all...just laying down base maps for Alec, but I think it looks good with just the base red color so wanted to tease you with some pics...no details, just base maps...

Dizzy · « **Reply #25 on:** June 22, 2007, 12:29:01 am »

Perfect

Norsehound · « **Reply #26 on:** June 22, 2007, 01:49:05 am »

You are on a road to greatness.

Continue!

Atolm-Rising · « **Reply #27 on:** June 22, 2007, 03:30:18 pm »

Solid

Sandman3D · « **Reply #28 on:** June 22, 2007, 10:03:27 pm »

Thanx guys!!!

Just wait 'til Alec does the fine detailing!

I'm just applying the base coat for the guy doing the good stuff.

She is looking sweet though. $:-\$

I, Mudd. · « **Reply #29 on:** June 22, 2007, 10:30:57 pm »

Y'know ... your Glitchwerks is closer than mine (say that fast three times and it almost sounds dirty ... eeyew!) to the 'Real McCoy'; which is all good, as there needs to be as much variation in the Kzinti 'model-shot-in-the-arm' as possible. You've done an outstanding rendition, dude.

MORE KITTIES!

I, Mudd;
(who can't get that old President's of the United States song out of his head ...)

Sandman3D · « **Reply #30 on:** June 26, 2007, 09:59:06 pm »

OK, just a quick note to let ya know I'm still mapping her...that always seems to take longer than the meshing does, at least for me.

Between work and trying to figure out how to come up with the money for the dog I want (pedigreed blue-nose APBT), I haven't had much time to devote to it. I'll get her done, though.

Rod ONeal · « **Reply #31 on:** July 02, 2007, 05:37:37 am »

Up you go.

LongTooth · « **Reply #32 on:** July 02, 2007, 05:51:07 am »

Nice

Rod ONeal · « **Reply #33 on:** July 10, 2007, 11:06:24 pm »

:bump:

ModelsPlease · « **Reply #34 on:** July 10, 2007, 11:40:01 pm »

THIS design should be the basis for a new (and sorely needed) Kzinti fleet.

OlBuzzard · « **Reply #35 on:** July 11, 2007, 02:43:00 pm »

Hey Sandman

Looking good buddy. If ya need any help with the textures .... drop me a PM I'd be glad to work with ya again ! If not .. that's cool !

Let 'er RIP bud ! great job thus far !

Red_Sharif · « **Reply #36 on:** July 29, 2007, 05:51:06 pm »

Bumpercars for update

KAT Chuut-Ritt · « **Reply #37 on:** August 12, 2007, 05:53:45 am »

Bump from the Kzinti Hegemony which will offer you a planet for finishing this ship, and a Barony for a full fleet.

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