Topic: Thanks

[FA Frey XC]

I just wanted to say thanks to the a-holes last night that decided it was good sportsman-ship in taunting me after DFly and I came out of game.

It's sh*t like this that reminds me why I don't fly on campaign servers anymore... and makes me wonder why I keep all this sh*t running.

Regards,

Frey

[FPF-DieHard]

I just wanted to say thanks to the a-holes last night that decided it was good sportsman-ship in taunting me after DFly and I came out of game.

It's sh*t like this that reminds me why I don't fly on campaign servers anymore... and makes me wonder why I keep all this sh*t running.

Regards,

Frey

As one of the jerks who did this, let me publicly apologize.   I didn't think it would piss you off like it did.

PS.  I gave you 75,000 PP

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

I apologize as well, had no idea you'd take it that way.  I tend not to take game stuff too seriously personally, but we all have our different perspectives and sorry if any comments I made seemed like rubbing salt in wounds.  The Kzinti have always been the most light-hearted race and sometimes we forget that others are more serious minded than our wingman t-bombing ram your buddy into a planet mentality.

[FA Frey XC]

FACT : I had just logged onto the server and bought the only ship I could afford.

FACT : I was attempting to team up with Stoneyface, another XC'er I had recruited to join me on this server as a Rom.

FACT : I was waiting for Stoney because he had issues with missions when he got drafted.

FACT : There was no need for the after game sh*t in the channel like " Thanks Frey for my shiney new mauler cruiser"... "Yea... " "hahaha" "*Snicker*".

Then, to add insult to injury, I am told my word isn't good enough after we suffered from what others are telling me sounds like the classic disco'ed missions. I said "GG" in game, and in the general channel because I try to be a good sport, even when I'm a little miffed that such as this happens.

Did that matter? Of course not, because the only thing that matters to some of you players is winning, and VP's, and rubbing your opponents face in the sh*t.  So, I choose to not subjugate myself to that type of crap, because believe it or not I play games to have fun, not serve as someone else's personal ego-boost.

Regards,

Frey

[FPF-DieHard]

FACT : I had just logged onto the server and bought the only ship I could afford.

FACT : I was attempting to team up with Stoneyface, another XC'er I had recruited to join me on this server as a Rom.

FACT : I was waiting for Stoney because he had issues with missions when he got drafted.

FACT : There was no need for the after game sh*t in the channel like " Thanks Frey for my shiney new mauler cruiser"... "Yea... " "hahaha" "*Snicker*".

Then, to add insult to injury, I am told my word isn't good enough after we suffered from what others are telling me sounds like the classic disco'ed missions. I said "GG" in game, and in the general channel because I try to be a good sport, even when I'm a little miffed that such as this happens.

Did that matter? Of course not, because the only thing that matters to some of you players is winning, and VP's, and rubbing your opponents face in the sh*t.  So, I choose to not subjugate myself to that type of crap, because believe it or not I play games to have fun, not serve as someone else's personal ego-boost.

Regards,

Frey

The best revenge is to sign back in and Kill us.   Did I mention you now have 75K PP?

[Dfly]

Frey, at any time after the start, before we got close,you could have decided not to fight, in order to save your ship, and head for a border.  At any time you could have asked for mercy because you had no pp to buy another ship.  I would gladly have given it, and always do when asked.  None of this was done or asked.
 Yes I play the PvP matches to win, always have, always will(I expect).  If time comes that I no longer wish that, I will try to stay out of PvP, or run off the map when drafted.  If I were to be captured, dragged into a rock, or otherwise I fully expect it will be all over the forums with pictures and stories.  That is part of this game, and this group.  I may not apreciate it when it happens, but I do realize that everyone is different and things like this happen.
I am sorry you feel hurt by all this and no longer wish to fly.  It was not the intention.

[Slider]

Frey

Its very easy to come in in the middle and mis read what the level of mirth is...

Soreeyes running into Rocks
Guys flying like their riding bicycles...
"being run off like girls" self effacing comments.

Laslty losing a dread "cough" to a Light Cruiser cough....While I wont go into details Duck will never live that one down.
Again were just goofing...no serious malice behind it.....thats is a difference.

They guys apologized....I'm not sure what more you expect of them, they cannot control or abate your anger.

Slider______

[FA Frey XC]

Frey, at any time after the start, before we got close,you could have decided not to fight, in order to save your ship, and head for a border.  At any time you could have asked for mercy because you had no pp to buy another ship.  I would gladly have given it, and always do when asked.  None of this was done or asked.
 Yes I play the PvP matches to win, always have, always will(I expect).  If time comes that I no longer wish that, I will try to stay out of PvP, or run off the map when drafted.  If I were to be captured, dragged into a rock, or otherwise I fully expect it will be all over the forums with pictures and stories.  That is part of this game, and this group.  I may not apreciate it when it happens, but I do realize that everyone is different and things like this happen.
I am sorry you feel hurt by all this and no longer wish to fly.  It was not the intention.

Wow, thanks for the justification of your BS.

Did I contest the kill? No. Did I say anything about that? Did you actually READ the post I made? Of course not....you completely avoid the point of my post, and thus show the world what a ass you are.

The original post wasnt about the kill, and if you would actually use the grey matter in between your cheeks you'd realize that - it was about the BS afterwards. I mean, WTF is the point of saying "Thanks for the nice new mauler", you gonna downtrade it and loose that cheesy Legendary Crew and cheesma ship you were flying? I sincerely doubt it, so take your BS excuses and shove them, I've had it with your friggin attitude.

Piss off,

Frey

[FCM_SFHQ_XC]

Frey

Its very easy to come in in the middle and mis read what the level of mirth is...

Soreeyes running into Rocks
Guys flying like their riding bicycles...
"being run off like girls" self effacing comments.

Laslty losing a dread "cough" to a Light Cruiser cough....While I wont go into details Duck will never live that one down.
Again were just goofing...no serious malice behind it.....thats is a difference.

They guys apologized....I'm not sure what more you expect of them, they cannot control or abate your anger.

Slider______

there is a point where it goes too far. especially when its multiple people taunting. I generally find unless its "GG" or setting up a PvP in general chat, it usually gets people into more trouble then anything else. Here is a classical example of such that right here. Unless you know the person well, dont take a chance taunting, no matter how playful it might sound or unintentional.
Its why I got go right back to missions instead of hanging around general chat else it might end up rather harshly, like the post above mine which means being

[el-Karnak]

Frey

Its very easy to come in in the middle and mis read what the level of mirth is...

Soreeyes running into Rocks
Guys flying like their riding bicycles...
"being run off like girls" self effacing comments.

Laslty losing a dread "cough" to a Light Cruiser cough....While I wont go into details Duck will never live that one down.
Again were just goofing...no serious malice behind it.....thats is a difference.

They guys apologized....I'm not sure what more you expect of them, they cannot control or abate your anger.

Slider______

there is a point where it goes too far. especially when its multiple people taunting. I generally find unless its "GG" or setting up a PvP in general chat, it usually gets people into more trouble then anything else. Here is a classical example of such that right here. Unless you know the person well, dont take a chance taunting, no matter how playful it might sound or unintentional.

Agreed.

Public taunting, especially over PvP games,  is not a good idea.  Whether it's in public chat or the public forums, I've yet to see a net sum of constructive happiness result from it in any game in any genre. Just a lot of flame posts and bad feelings all around.

I always make it a point not to post about winnings/losings of PvP battles in public forums other than list the kill, as required by dyna campaign, and mb put in some cut-and-dry emotionless battle report.

Otherwise, what's the point?

When people have gone and glorified the PvP kills to the Nth degree in any public forum then there have been cases when matters really got out of hand and people did leave the game for a long time. Anyone that has been involved with D2 knows about these cases in this D2 forum or in the old Taldren D2 forum. Also, saw it in old Age of Sail games where whole fleets left, LoTR games, SFC3 big-time, SWG, and so on and so on ...

A lot of it is all fun and games, but humor can be a double-edged sword sometimes in the wrong situation.

[Hexx]

All true.

However at a certain point- one simply has to realize that pretty much everyone else playing this game is an idiot and expect them to act as such.

[SkyFlyer]

I dont really see a problem with a little ribbing here and there (and I get plenty of it, trust me), but it looks like this might have been taken too far.

[Dfly]

Frey, at any time after the start, before we got close,you could have decided not to fight, in order to save your ship, and head for a border.  At any time you could have asked for mercy because you had no pp to buy another ship.  I would gladly have given it, and always do when asked.  None of this was done or asked.
 Yes I play the PvP matches to win, always have, always will(I expect).  If time comes that I no longer wish that, I will try to stay out of PvP, or run off the map when drafted.  If I were to be captured, dragged into a rock, or otherwise I fully expect it will be all over the forums with pictures and stories.  That is part of this game, and this group.  I may not apreciate it when it happens, but I do realize that everyone is different and things like this happen.
I am sorry you feel hurt by all this and no longer wish to fly.  It was not the intention.

Wow, thanks for the justification of your BS.

Did I contest the kill? No. Did I say anything about that? Did you actually READ the post I made? Of course not....you completely avoid the point of my post, and thus show the world what a ass you are.

The original post wasnt about the kill, and if you would actually use the grey matter in between your cheeks you'd realize that - it was about the BS afterwards. I mean, WTF is the point of saying "Thanks for the nice new mauler", you gonna downtrade it and loose that cheesy Legendary Crew and cheesma ship you were flying? I sincerely doubt it, so take your BS excuses and shove them, I've had it with your friggin attitude.

Piss off,

Frey

No verbal attack here.  No direct insults here. no sir.

Lucky you.  Others, me included, would be banned for such things.  I will drop it.  I will not address this situation or these insults any longer.  Whatever is bugging you either in real life or here I truly hope you find peace with it because even if I try to apologize you insult me, and that is also not right. 

This is and will be my last post on this subject.  I dont know what you want from me anymore as my  apology is not accepted, so I am dropping all issues with this topic.

[Dizzy]

OMG! Grow a spine people. Do I need to start a new Dizzy Kill thread?

[KBF-Crim]

Oh jesus christ....

Taunted.....oh...the horror....

Next we will come steal your cable to watch mexican soccer....

[Hexx]

Hmm

Anyone (other than Frey-dunno if he will) able to lock this up?

[KBF-Crim]

hmmm...I'm not in the habit of locking freys posts...

[SkyFlyer]

Someone give me the power. I'll do it.

[FCM_SFHQ_XC]

Some additional food for thought:
Stage 1: Its stuff like this that kills a game. First off a game that can have online campaigns comes out.
Stage 2: Then almost everyone who likes it extremely well will slowly start to get to a point that more and more campaign servers start to develop.
Stage 3: Then as PvP becomes popular on it, it starts out with some people messing up those who enjoy a decent PvP match with no hard feelings,
Stage 4: then it slowly becomes common for some additional "salt in the wound" among most players, perhaps still joking, but more and more common it becomes.
Stage 5: Soon its hard to get ANY decent campaign designed for FUN!! Online gaming (campaign wise) is dying
Stage 6: Then finally its hard at all just to get anyone to come on campaigns servers for that reason.
Stage 7: Intentional/unintentional taunting and bitter feelings becomes too much for almost everyone who used to love flying camps. Game killed(online campaign wise).

Every time something like this happens to this degree, its gonna shake more & more players from wanting to play campings. While apologies to the individual are definitely needed/the right thing to do, I'm afraid they are not gonna do much good in the long run as if it doesn't stop back at stage 1, then they'll never stop. Its one after the other after the other(even if being spaced out over the course of years of campaigns).All promises of change for the better then NOTHING the next time around. Only so many people for so long will tolerate/withstand it.

OP has held of extremely well, I must say, which I am very glad of.. I really enjoy playing OP a lot, as I'm sure a lot of you do as well, otherwise you wouldn't be here , but please remember NO MATTER what your intention or what your purpose in a supposedly HARMLESS taunt that your basically moving           Game Q     X   points    to Stage 7.

Even if your taunt doesn't hurt the person it was aimed at because they understand it, that doesn't mean that some other player on the server looks at that chat and is not affected by it to effectively deter them from playing.

...just some food for thought.

[FPF-DieHard]

OMG! Grow a spine people. Do I need to start a new Dizzy Kill thread?

You would have to actually sing onto the server to do that