Topic: AOTK3 will be the 1st server in the history of D2 where all Empires will have... (Read 2023 times)

Dizzy · « **on:** May 11, 2007, 05:52:42 am »

...shipyards that build Starbases!

Purdy kool, huh?

I figured out how to set it up, finally. With ED's help in deciphering how empire rankings go, and using his editor to check empire rankings, I was able to run tests on the serverkit using various econ levels until I zeroed in on how it's supposed to be setup. Every future server should have no problem making sure all races get shipyards that build Starbases. Anyway, it's lengthy and is posted in detail at the D2 Admins Forum for you prospective map makers and server admins.

Diz

Alphageek · « **Reply #1 on:** May 11, 2007, 06:23:56 am »

Errmmm....weren't there starbases in the shipyards on, at least, the Slave Girls 7 server?

Dizzy · « **Reply #2 on:** May 11, 2007, 06:25:38 am »

Ya, but some races had starbases, other races built only BATs, some had only BSs, and some races never built bases. Now they all offer Starbases.

FPF-Tobin Dax · « **Reply #3 on:** May 11, 2007, 09:31:03 am »

+1. Nicely done!

Lepton · « **Reply #4 on:** May 11, 2007, 11:07:49 am »

Kudos to you for implementing this. One thing that concerns me though is the ability of opposing races to affect each other's economies. If one side grabs all of another's territory, it shouldn't still be able to pump out ships and starbases. With the setup that you seem to suggest in the D2 admins forum, it would be impossible to affect the economy of any race. I don't think that was the dynaverse's intent. I remember instances on older servers wherein one side actually captured a lot of another territory. In those instances, the defeated race was lucky to be able to build a CL.

FPF-DieHard · « **Reply #5 on:** May 11, 2007, 11:11:49 am »

Quote from: Lepton on May 11, 2007, 11:07:49 am

Kudos to you for implementing this. One thing that concerns me though is the ability of opposing races to affect each other's economies. If one side grabs all of another's territory, it shouldn't still be able to pump out ships and starbases. With the setup that you seem to suggest in the D2 admins forum, it would be impossible to affect the economy of any race. I don't think that was the dynaverse's intent. I remember instances on older servers wherein one side actually captured a lot of another territory. In those instances, the defeated race was lucky to be able to build a CL.

The plan wil be to put all of the econ in the core hexes with impregnable DVs. If the econ is affected in this way the server will have been such a blowout that it would not matter.

Lepton · « **Reply #6 on:** May 11, 2007, 11:30:34 am »

Yes, I realize that is that plan, but doesn't it make sense that if one captures significant territory that this should affect the econ production of the assaulted race? It's a good plan to keep things humming along and I am glad this was figured out, but I think the intent of the D2 was that races could effect each other's economies.

Soreyes · « **Reply #7 on:** May 11, 2007, 12:32:01 pm »

Just got off the test server. I think the shipyards might need just a little bit of tweeking. for the last 4 or 5 cycles this is what was in the Kzin shipyards

5 BBm
9 BB
3 SBFR
1 DNRm
1 CCH
2 MDC+
1 MCC+
1 BF
2 CLR
1 DWER
1 AFF

Where are my DFRs

FPF-Tobin Dax · « **Reply #8 on:** May 11, 2007, 02:00:11 pm »

Wednesday, the fed yard was pumping out a whole bunch of DNLs and higher bpv ships.

Capt Jeff · « **Reply #9 on:** May 11, 2007, 02:32:18 pm »

The Hydran and Romulan yards were pumping out MNR's and KCN's like crazy as well.

Don't worry, it's just a quick settings change and all will be good again. Just a test server right now....

Dizzy · « **Reply #10 on:** May 11, 2007, 04:27:46 pm »

The current map isnt the updated one nor is it using the adjusted gf settings.

Lepton...

RogueJedi setup a server once. In came the Mirak on the Feds and wiped out a lot of the hexes early era and the effect on the fed econ in the shipyard was such that nothing larger than DD to CL was being produced. Feds couldnt even build bases to get resupply points. So before the server got going it was over. Feds quit because who wants to fly around in DD's when your enemy can afford CA and DN's. Besides, the shipyards are broken. Empire rankings insure that. Races will build only one type of base... if they can even afford to do so. Our solution was to make it equal for everyone.

Lepton, if you want to penalize a race that is losing a war by denying them the tools to fight it with, then you are putting the nail in the coffin bro. Sorry but your idea wont fly... Now if you want to talk OoB server where taking an asset will deny the enemy a build of a particular something that's a different story. But allowing Econ to change hands on the map is dumb.

Electric Eye · « **Reply #11 on:** May 12, 2007, 08:49:20 pm »

Great job Dizzy! Now empires will have to get on their knees and beg for someone's PP in order to get a SB!

Plus one too as that is quite an accomplishment, be sure to give kudos to ED.

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