Topic: Needed: Andor Class Torpedo Cruiser for inclusion in the next...

[Dizzy]

... in the next Slave Girls of Orion D2 Server.

There are a few variant mods of this ship out there currently, but the best mesh I have seen has been the Model by Kreeargh retextured by Klingon Fanatic using textures from Atheorhaven (USS Andor saucer textures), Pataflafla (USS Keyhole) Moonraker (Deflector) and Kreeargh with texture mapping fixes by Atheorhaven. This one basically takes P81's model, replaces the aft hull with that of a shortened excelsior hull and replaces the warp engines with some better looking ones and relocates them above the model which really makes the model look better.

The problem I have with this one is that it seems the texture maps for the wing areas and part of the top and the length of the aft hull the warp emngines are mounted have not been 'mapped' properly and are stretched and doubled in areas making proper textures in those areas impossible. I'd settle for this model available at BC if those areas were remapped and had different textures for different areas and wernt 'stretched' over them distorting them.

Or... a new fresh take or mod of the Andor would be ideal.

The Slave Girl Server shiplist will likely feature the ship as a New Heavy Cruiser like the Miranda Class, but focus on 4 forward torpedo mounts each shooting 2 Photons for a total of eight. Alternatively in a different configuration, the Miranda class 'Weapons Pod Riser' could be used although it'd have to have one torp tube in the pod firing forward and aft and three torp mounts on the ship itself facing forward each firing two photons for a total of eight.

The ship would also need one FH firing bank of two Phasers and one 360` mounted bank of two Phasers at the most elevated dorsal point on the ship, probably in front or aft of the impulse dome and then a port for the Anti Drone Defense and another bank of 2 defensive Phasers possibly mounted on the ventral side.

I'd love it if a modeler would take up this project.

[Centurus]

I believe there was an Andor class in the GAW mod for SFC3.  Chances are it's either one that you're not interested in, or the one you're talking about, with the same problems unfixed.

Maybe one of the guys here could either mesh you or remap/retexture the existing model you're interested in if you post a link.

[Dizzy]

http://www.battleclinic.com/docks/dock.php?id=1274

The main two problems I have other than the textures being stretched and duped, is this model wings are too large. That's far too much superstructure to house just the photons and other related equipment. The second problem is that this is not a shuttle or fighter carrier. The aft shot clearly shows 4x shuttle doors. One is enough on the underside. There are mods of the aft hull of the excelsior that have shuttle bay doors instead of that glunky thing hanging in the underside aft compartment of what appears to be a shuttlebay. That'd be the ideal aft hull I'd want. I'm a decent texturer myself and expect to handle much of the texture work, but I need remaps done so the textures for the wings and the top and aft under the warps are properly laid down with their own textures.

[Scottish Andy]

Holy crap! That model actually makes the Andor look good...

[Dizzy]

Holy crap! That model actually makes the Andor look good...

Ya, untill you look closer.

That's what I call a hot blonde a 20 footer. Whenever you get closer you cringe and run away cuz they so uglay... There are different varieties. 50, 20, 10. The 10 ones are the trickiest. At ten you have probably committed yourself to eye contact and now you're f*cked.

[Centurus]

Holy crap! That model actually makes the Andor look good...

Ya, untill you look closer.

That's what I call a hot blonde a 20 footer. Whenever you get closer you cringe and run away cuz they so uglay... There are different varieties. 50, 20, 10. The 10 ones are the trickiest. At ten you have probably committed yourself to eye contact and now you're f*cked.

That's how I got married to my 3rd wife.  Or was it my 18th?  I was really plastered that weekend.

[Klingon Fanatic]

 

I did the best I could with what was available at the time.

That's an OLD retexture... LOL

Are the Chandley, D-10 and Winged Defender going into the Next Slave Girls?

KF

[Dizzy]

Are the Chandley, D-10 and Winged Defender going into the Next Slave Girls?

KF

Hrmmm... they sure should! Both have kick ass models avaialble. I need FASA to SFC2 translation specs for the D10 and Winged Defender to see if they are sufficiently distinct from existing entries. The Chandley and Northhampton are kinda overlapped with the other NCA's already in Firesoul's OP+4.0 shiplist. Existing entries like the FDW and NHK/RHK/KHK's could use new models.

[Kreeargh]

http://www.battleclinic.com/docks/dock.php?id=1274

The main two problems I have other than the textures being stretched and duped, is this model wings are too large. That's far too much superstructure to house just the photons and other related equipment. The second problem is that this is not a shuttle or fighter carrier. The aft shot clearly shows 4x shuttle doors. One is enough on the underside. There are mods of the aft hull of the excelsior that have shuttle bay doors instead of that glunky thing hanging in the underside aft compartment of what appears to be a shuttlebay. That'd be the ideal aft hull I'd want. I'm a decent texturer myself and expect to handle much of the texture work, but I need remaps done so the textures for the wings and the top and aft under the warps are properly laid down with their own textures.

Oh good lord dont use that theres got to be a better mesh/model made by now than that. KF did a damn good job on my orignal but when you have crap to work with crap cant make gold if you know what i mean.

[Dizzy]

Yeah, well, it seems that this mesh is old. Real old and no one has since updated it with a decent new one.

Cloak and Dagger studios had this one, appears to tb just the same mesh with new textures tho.

With all the old ship designs, this one has just never been revisited with a newer higher res model.

[Don Karnage]

well the andor got its warp engine hide behind the saucer and protected by the side bar so in battle the engine are protected from side shot,

i never find a model that was worth downloading, maybe WZ could make one look super or anyone willing to take the challenge 

[Centurus]

well the andor got its warp engine hide behind the saucer and protected by the side bar so in battle the engine are protected from side shot,

i never find a model that was worth downloading, maybe WZ could make one look super or anyone willing to take the challenge 

I wish WZ would make the Andor, but something tells me the design isn't his cup of tea.  Which is cool.  The Andor could be kitbashed with newer parts, but the secondary hull would be a problem.

[Dizzy]

Talked to MR and looks like we are gonna tackle this next month!

[Dizzy]

That said, does anyone have ANY source material, pics such other than the FASA black and white blueprint drawing to use as insiration or source material? I wonder of anyone has done up a render or a drawing of one...