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Offline Don Karnage

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startrek fact problem
« on: December 17, 2007, 06:56:32 am »
i was thinking about something in star trek that did not fit well

in st the next generation when they discover scotty in the transporter room buffer, 

ryker says that he was from the enterprise

scotty was thinking that kirk get back the enterprise A to rescue him

but scotty was theyr when kirk gave his life (more or less) saving the enterprise B

so why would scotty think that?

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Re: startrek fact problem
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2007, 01:04:56 pm »
well, because "Relics" was made before "Generations"...  ;)

One explanation is that all that time in the buffer made Scotty a wee bit confused. makes sense to me, since in"Realm of Fear", we saw that being in the transporter was sort of a real-time event. 75 years like that would make me pretty confused...

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Re: startrek fact problem
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2007, 06:11:27 pm »
well, because "Relics" was made before "Generations"...  ;)

One explanation is that all that time in the buffer made Scotty a wee bit confused. makes sense to me, since in"Realm of Fear", we saw that being in the transporter was sort of a real-time event. 75 years like that would make me pretty confused...

Actually Relics was after Generations. Unification came out right before Generations. In the book form of the episode, Scotty never belived Kirk dead, as he had disappeared so many times in the past, and his body was never found. He simply held out hope.

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Re: startrek fact problem
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2007, 06:20:05 pm »
First Contact had several issues as well:

1/ Zefram Cochrane of Alpha Centaurii suddenly is an American from the midwest.

2/ Cochrane is 30 years older than he should be.

3/ Disagrees with DS9 on whether the moon is terraformed or not.

Not to mention that the records of the flight of the Phoenix should be different in the Federation the Enterprise returned to than was recorded in the Enterprise Databanks.

My little hoax explained away 1 and 2 but obviously wasn't official.  ;)

Sorry Stephen but Relics was 1992 and Star Trek Generations was 1994
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Re: startrek fact problem
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2007, 06:23:42 pm »
Actually Relics was after Generations.
Not according to the dates. Relics aired October 12, 1992, Generations didn't start production until '93

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« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2007, 10:21:23 pm »
I stand corrected then. I really thought it the other way around. sorry guys.

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Re: startrek fact problem
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2007, 10:34:28 pm »
I stand corrected then. I really thought it the other way around. sorry guys.

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Re: startrek fact problem
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2007, 01:15:46 pm »
Well, he could hold out hope that Kirk was still alive, he never actually saw him die.

And though they mention they were going to do away with the Enterprise-A at the end of VI, the crew goes galavanting off so we never actually know if that ever really happened.

So in truth, knowing the lengths Kirk went through to save Spock, and the situation he was in, and perhaps for how long, it probably shouldn't be surprising if Scotty thought that was the only one who not only would come to save him, but actually was there to save him.
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