Topic: Non-Binding poll for races in AOTK3

[FPF-DieHard]

AOTK3 is the tie-breaker.  Coalition won AOTK1, Kitties won AOTK2.

As much as I'd love to have the Federation and Kilngons together, a little voice in my head is telling me this is not a good idea.   I knda want to know the general feelings of the rest of the community.  Are we mature enough to move past the bad-blood of the past or should we just accept the fact the Feds and Klingons were bulit to kill each other and not try to shove a square peg in a round hole?

The Gorn were Coalition in AOTK1, I think they should stay Coaliiton for the tie-breaker.

Again, this poll is non-binding, just for informational purposes.

[FPF-Tobin Dax]

Caitians were feds.

[Julin Eurthyr]

Hard to say...

The AOTK series were some of the "best" (if one can say that the highly-politically charged atmosphere made anything "good" about these servers) 3-way campaigns out there.

The concept / story behind AOTK was that the Kitty races (MiraKzinti, Lyran and Korvillar of the ISC) banded together to conquer the galaxy and turn it into a giant litterbox.  Continuing this theme, the "obvious" choice is that the Caitians of the Federation actually overthrow the government and throw their lot in with the kitties, causing the bitter enemies of the "remaining" Alliance and Coalition to throw their lot together in an effort to stop the litterbox-ization and yarning of the galaxy...

[FPF-DieHard]

Hard to say...

The AOTK series were some of the "best" (if one can say that the highly-politically charged atmosphere made anything "good" about these servers) 3-way campaigns out there.

The concept / story behind AOTK was that the Kitty races (MiraKzinti, Lyran and Korvillar of the ISC) banded together to conquer the galaxy and turn it into a giant litterbox.  Continuing this theme, the "obvious" choice is that the Caitians of the Federation actually overthrow the government and throw their lot in with the kitties, causing the bitter enemies of the "remaining" Alliance and Coalition to throw their lot together in an effort to stop the litterbox-ization and yarning of the galaxy...

I like it!!  Now I have a server Description   

[NuclearWessels]

Holy Crap!   

I just went digging through the Sfc2.net forums, was AOTK really 5 years ago????? 
<stares at PC and remembers setting it up just before AOTK>

Where's my geritol?

dave

[Soreyes]

Where's my geritol?

Passes a a few jars of geritol to NW 

[FPF-Tobin Dax]

Holy Crap!   

I just went digging through the Sfc2.net forums, was AOTK really 5 years ago????? 
<stares at PC and remembers setting it up just before AOTK>

Where's my geritol?

dave

Right next to the pepto biszmol and the dentucreme. 

[Centurus]

Holy Crap!   

I just went digging through the Sfc2.net forums, was AOTK really 5 years ago????? 
<stares at PC and remembers setting it up just before AOTK>

Where's my geritol?

dave

That's not the question you should be asking.  You should be asking where your dentures and colostomy bad are.

[IAF Lyrkiller]

The Feds should be w/ us kitties.

[GDA-Agave]

I say let the 3 kitties races stand on their own.  If you really want to drop the 3 sided aspect of the server, drop the Gorn, and let the Feds, Klink, Hydrans, and Roms fight the 3 kitty empires.  That, I think would fit the storyline after the other 2 servers better than adding another race in with the kitty side.

Just because we have 8 playable empires does not mean you have to split them 4 vs 4.  No matter how many empires are on one side or another, it's not going to change the playerbase.  I would not be surprised to see a big turnout for the kitties even with only the 3 original empires used in the previous servers.

As for having the Feds and Klinks on the same side, I think it's about time pilots from both those empires take the rare opportunity to fly with your typical enemies.  Every other race has done it on past servers, and it's about time the Fed and Klinks do some flying together as well.

Just my thoughts.

AGAVE

[Dizzy]

I am so flying a Lyran ship this server! Meow.

[Dfly]

OH GOD NO.  Dont tell me I would have to "TRAIN"  Dizzy on how to fly a LYRAN ship.   That's,  that's, well, Blasphamy. 

[FPF-Tobin Dax]

The Feds should be w/ us kitties.

Yeah, we are already trained at changing the litter box sand.......

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

I say let the 3 kitties races stand on their own.  If you really want to drop the 3 sided aspect of the server, drop the Gorn, and let the Feds, Klink, Hydrans, and Roms fight the 3 kitty empires.  That, I think would fit the storyline after the other 2 servers better than adding another race in with the kitty side.

Just because we have 8 playable empires does not mean you have to split them 4 vs 4.  No matter how many empires are on one side or another, it's not going to change the playerbase.  I would not be surprised to see a big turnout for the kitties even with only the 3 original empires used in the previous servers.

While we dont require 4x4 I dont see any reason to leave out any race.

I think it might be cool to allow the Gorn acess to ISC ships much as the Romulans were this server.  The roleplay justification would be that the Pronhoulites (the ISC's lizard race) broke off with an ISC taskforce and joined the Gorn as tensions arose over the Korivilar's increasing position among the marines where the two had had a friendly rivilry before.  Just an idea.

[FPF-DieHard]

I think it might be cool to allow the Gorn acess to ISC ships much as the Romulans were this server.  The roleplay justification would be that the Pronhoulites (the ISC's lizard race) broke off with an ISC taskforce and joined the Gorn as tensions arose over the Korivilar's increasing position among the marines where the two had had a friendly rivilry before.  Just an idea.

It's not a bad one either . . .

[Corbomite]

I am so flying a Lyran ship this server! Meow.

Me too!!!

That is if I can get enough scratch for a new 'puter by then.

What's the expected ETA?

[FPF-DieHard]

I am so flying a Lyran ship this server! Meow.

Me too!!!

That is if I can get enough scratch for a new 'puter by then.

What's the expected ETA?

Early June

[GDA-Agave]

I say let the 3 kitties races stand on their own.  If you really want to drop the 3 sided aspect of the server, drop the Gorn, and let the Feds, Klink, Hydrans, and Roms fight the 3 kitty empires.  That, I think would fit the storyline after the other 2 servers better than adding another race in with the kitty side.

Just because we have 8 playable empires does not mean you have to split them 4 vs 4.  No matter how many empires are on one side or another, it's not going to change the playerbase.  I would not be surprised to see a big turnout for the kitties even with only the 3 original empires used in the previous servers.

While we dont require 4x4 I dont see any reason to leave out any race.

I think it might be cool to allow the Gorn acess to ISC ships much as the Romulans were this server.  The roleplay justification would be that the Pronhoulites (the ISC's lizard race) broke off with an ISC taskforce and joined the Gorn as tensions arose over the Korivilar's increasing position among the marines where the two had had a friendly rivilry before.  Just an idea.

I think you missed my point, which is, I don't think any races needs to be added to the original 3 kitty empires.  Period.

I don't care if you have the Gorn as a separate playable empire or combine it's shiplist with another empires.  Whether it's 5vs3, 4vs3, or even 3vs3 with combined shiplists, the original 3 kitty emipires should stand on their own.  The pilots of those 3 empires have proven they can compete even in the past servers when there were 3 sides.  Reducing the next server to a 2 sided affair (which I totally get because of pilot numbers) and adding another race to the kitties side is too much  in my opinion.

That's it.   Don't add another race to the kitties side.  No matter how you breakup their opponents' shiplists I think you find that their will be a good balance of pilots, AND, I would love to see the Feds and klingons sided together.  You make up plenty of storylines about how all these un-friendly races have allied to stop the kitty invason.


AGAVE

[Lieutenant_Q]

Simple, the Kitties deploy Tribbles. 

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

I think you missed my point, which is, I don't think any races needs to be added to the original 3 kitty empires.  Period.

Ummm...no I didn't.

I said "While we dont require 4x4 I dont see any reason to leave out any race."

This was not only to adress the Gorn exclusion you mentioned but also and uneven matchup.

Now the reson I suggested the ISC ships in the Gorn list was to offer those flying in Gorn accounts an incentive to do so.  The Romulans get the cloak and the maulers so there isn't much encouragement to fly Gorn if both races are on the smae side, having ISC toys in the list would go along way towards fixing that IMHO.

I don't care if you have the Gorn as a separate playable empire or combine it's shiplist with another empires.  Whether it's 5vs3, 4vs3, or even 3vs3 with combined shiplists, the original 3 kitty emipires should stand on their own.  The pilots of those 3 empires have proven they can compete even in the past servers when there were 3 sides.  Reducing the next server to a 2 sided affair (which I totally get because of pilot numbers) and adding another race to the kitties side is too much  in my opinion.

I disagree somewhat here.  I don't think the Kitties particularly need a fourth race as you say, but I also don't think including a fourth one would tip any balance.  Player numbers is more a determinent, and with the Klingons and Federation typically having the biggest draws it seems natural that they are often opposed.  Individual pilots can migrate if they wish but in general the Klingons on one side and the Federation on the other has usually been the best policy.  The Coalition of Romulan/Gorn/Klingon won the Origional AOTK so you could also use your reasoning to infer that the pilots of those 3 empires have proven they can compete on their own.  Perhaps just kick the Feds and the Hydrans both out and let the 2 previously victorious Groups have at it? 

I would love to see the Feds and klingons sided together. 

Personally I would not wish to repeat that disaster, it caused huge damage to the community.  If individuals wish to play on the other side I'm all for it, I just don't think somethings work well if forced.