Topic: TOS ESCORT CLASS complete DL avail 5/7 (Read 18258 times)

Geks · « **Reply #80 on:** May 07, 2007, 01:05:04 pm »

NP... enjoy man

Rod ONeal · « **Reply #81 on:** May 07, 2007, 06:12:56 pm »

Quote from: Geks on May 07, 2007, 05:36:56 am

Thanks intestellar Still trying to get it uploaded to no avail

Rod - I have no idea what that is LOL

In earlier versions of SFC the models had 3 LODs (levels of detail). That's why the plugin asks whether it's a break model or not. Break models don't have LODs. If you look at a stock SFC2 model, and some custom models, in the mod viewer, under options->LOD you can view the different LODs. LOD 1 is the highest res, LOD 3 the lowest. As you get further away from a model you need less detail and it saves computer resources to switch to a lower res LOD.
SFC3 does this without the need for the models to be made with LODs. The game "dynamically" adjusts the poly count as you change distances from the model. I've seen complaints by modelers that the game causes smoothing problems when it does this.

Geks · « **Reply #82 on:** May 08, 2007, 05:09:36 am »

Cool.. thanks for the explantion man

Don Karnage · « **Reply #83 on:** May 09, 2007, 07:00:37 am »

i was wondering if your escort is the same size as the original?

Geks · « **Reply #84 on:** May 09, 2007, 07:11:53 am »

Here is a pic of the scale, lol i should have posted it before

Don Karnage · « **Reply #85 on:** May 09, 2007, 08:04:01 am »

ahh the kid brother of the defiant

cool, thanks

Geks · « **Reply #86 on:** May 09, 2007, 08:26:08 am »

Lol... yep... i mainly scaled it smaller because of the bridge dome and turboshafts, that and the port holes on the underside were scaled to show a smaller version than the tng escort class.

Don Karnage · « **Reply #87 on:** May 11, 2007, 09:39:21 pm »

i found on my HD something for your defiant, "the pulse phaser"

you could had it with your model.

Don Karnage · « **Reply #88 on:** May 12, 2007, 04:23:03 pm »

does your mod have Hard Point?

DA6591 · « **Reply #89 on:** May 13, 2007, 12:23:28 am »

Quote from: Geks on May 06, 2007, 03:45:01 am

Ok, si i have converted it to a mod, made a break mod, got is hardpointed so the weapons are firing from the correct places, got it scaled correctly, made the ti,vl and BS images, got the .GF working, added in the dummy objects for the progressive damages, and made damage maps that include illums. Added in the glows using the modelling tools attribute editior thing. But when i export the model, it works fine but why is it smoothing my model.. i dont want it to, and when it asks if i want it to on the export i say no, but in game it smooths it all and it looks wrong when ur up close.

any ideas

Rod ONeal · « **Reply #90 on:** May 13, 2007, 02:59:31 am »

What's not specifically stated here, is that's what you do to get a model ready for SFC3.

Don Karnage · « **Reply #91 on:** May 13, 2007, 03:50:12 am »

its hard ponted but what number is where on it?

so i know what UI uase to place the weapons?

Rod ONeal · « **Reply #92 on:** May 13, 2007, 05:55:10 am »

Quote from: Fallen_Warrior on May 13, 2007, 03:22:23 am

First off, Geks isnt even here he is back on assignment
secondly would you rather him make models and get them game worthy or write up a long ass tut on SFC3ing, even though SFC3 files thanx to Greenlav has several tuts of making a ship SFC3 ready in less that half hour

thirdly HPing is basicing placing joints into the model using milkshape you name these as your HP and damage points 1-15 for phaser and 16-24 (25 is possible but its a kind of a phantom) although they can be played about with so a phaser bank holding a torp (no refittable)
then its a case of using taldrens model tool for the added glows and d'deridex hardpoint assigner

First off, don't go all Klingon on me.
Secondly, I was simply stating that because I know that Don uses EAW and that the model is done for SFC3.
Thirdly, I know perfectly well how to HP a model.

Centurus · « **Reply #93 on:** May 13, 2007, 11:23:52 pm »

Hardpoint 25 for SFC3 doesn't work at all. I'm the one that first discovered that problem. You'll see it fine in the refit screen, but when you're in mission, not only doesn't it show, it doesn't work. It's one of the code bugs that never got a chance to be fixed.

Centurus · « **Reply #94 on:** May 13, 2007, 11:28:05 pm »

P.S.

In SFC3, it doesn't really matter what hardpoints you use for primary weapons and secondary weapons. I've toyed with settings to have the last 10 as phasers and first 10 for torpedoes, and this was when I was bored.

As long as you properly set the arc for a particular hardpoint, and designate whether a hardpoint is primary or secondary in the defaultcore and defaultloadout files, the game really doesn't care.

Makes for some interesting ships.

atheorhaven · « **Reply #95 on:** May 22, 2007, 01:14:09 am »

... fired this ship up in the Glow Editor today and tweaked the glows a bit. 14 different glows now instead of 1.

Think of it as an alternate glow to try out.. back up the original one first though..

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