Topic: Taldren: Why no capture?

[Mog]

Well clintk, I don't remember ever having a CTD from capturing another player's ship. I do, however, remember seeing an email on the Dyna Admin group saying that capture in D3 was removed because it is not fun for the one being captured. In that case, how come we can still blow people up? Surely that too is not fun for those on the receiving end?

[NuclearWessels]

On the EAW capture, it depends very much on the specific mission and the circumstances.   I've won a handful of PvP matches by capturing my opponent.

dave
 

[Rob Cole]

clintk,

There is not and never has been any "capture bug" in EAW.
The only problem I can think of is that it could have effected people with Low end systems and a crapy conection.

So clintK,If you are going to post crap,Make it correct crap!


MOO!

[Cocomoe]

  Wasn't that capturing humans a exploit?  It only happened after one of the patches.

  Face it if you really capture the vessel the original player would have no control over it.



 

[Blitzkrieg]

Capturing the AI would be ok, but really, Borg would suck big time and I would have to constaly be clicking on "buy more f-ing troops" when I really want to click on "fill er up baby". Need that rolleyes function about now!

[Bossman]

Geez, can't you go about scolding someone in public in a more dignified manner?    

[Cleaven]

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clintk,

There is not and never has been any "capture bug" in EAW.
The only problem I can think of is that it could have effected people with Low end systems and a crapy conection.

So clintK,If you are going to post crap,Make it correct crap!


MOO!  

There was (now fixed I'm sure) the capture bug where you would CTD or lose control of your own ship or have to fight for control of the other ship after capturing the enemy players ship in D2 play (tested with high end PC's and good connections). Now while you may also call this crap since I am pretty sure that bug has been fixed and is no longer a problem, it did exist.

So, Rob Cole, I contend that you are full of it, if you say there were no capture bugs in EAW.

Your turn to post your own crap in rebuttal .......  

[Rob Cole]

I never saw or had this bug Cleaven,And do not ever recall seeing it in testing so pfffffft.
I could be wrong,I am getting old and forgetful  

[Cozbo]

I would love to see capture be an option in the multiplayer game. I dont use transporters at all, install type 1 on all ships classes because it just isnt worth it. If the only function is to temporarily disable a ship system before destroying the enemy what good is it. Lowering my shields is too great a risk in auto function. And to do that manually takes too much effort in combat.  Frankly if capture was an option I would reconsider. Especially playing Borg.
The only reason to put any marines on board now is strickly defense against ai's and daring(or stupid) humans.
The results of a capture should be the same as blowing up the enemy ship except, he loses his crew too. He starts over with a frigate AND a new crew  OR perhaps you get the prestige value of his ship and crew. That would turn some games quickly if  ship captures had those consequences. I think capture could be an option that is set by the server admin.

Hope to see it in the future....  

[korus]

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I would love to see capture be an option in the multiplayer game. I dont use transporters at all, install type 1 on all ships classes because it just isnt worth it. If the only function is to temporarily disable a ship system before destroying the enemy what good is it. Lowering my shields is too great a risk in auto function. And to do that manually takes too much effort in combat.  Frankly if capture was an option I would reconsider. Especially playing Borg.
The only reason to put any marines on board now is strickly defense against ai's and daring(or stupid) humans.
The results of a capture should be the same as blowing up the enemy ship except, he loses his crew too. He starts over with a frigate AND a new crew  OR perhaps you get the prestige value of his ship and crew. That would turn some games quickly if  ship captures had those consequences. I think capture could be an option that is set by the server admin.

Hope to see it in the future....  

  Actually, that's not a bad idea there... Unfortunately I think the capture mode is hard coded and requires some heavy work to enable it...... But Maybe some Taldren folks can answer this one... BUMP!

Korus    

[SFCSpoonman]

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I never saw or had this bug Cleaven,And do not ever recall seeing it in testing so pfffffft.
I could be wrong,I am getting old and forgetful    

Sorry Rob, there were capture issues in P vs P, causing them to be removed.  Losing control of a given ship is just one example.  The game would crash on capture on occasion in player vs player combat.  

I dont personally miss it all that much.  

I would like to see it better implemented if there was another expansion/sequel/similar space combat simulation.  

[Cleaven]

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I never saw or had this bug Cleaven,And do not ever recall seeing it in testing so pfffffft.
I could be wrong,I am getting old and forgetful    

The point is that you are not the repository of the list of EAW bugs, and declaring that just because you never saw it then somebody else is speaking crap is just a sorry indictment on your attitude. You are a cad and a bounder and a chap should be able to demand satisfaction but you would assuredly not be game enough to provide it.

While you are using the dictionary, look up "ass" (the english spelling - not the american) since it also applies to you, until you see fit to renounce your initial statement.

   

[Rob Cole]

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I never saw or had this bug Cleaven,And do not ever recall seeing it in testing so pfffffft.
I could be wrong,I am getting old and forgetful    

The point is that you are not the repository of the list of EAW bugs, and declaring that just because you never saw it then somebody else is speaking crap is just a sorry indictment on your attitude. You are a cad and a bounder and a chap should be able to demand satisfaction but you would assuredly not be game enough to provide it.

While you are using the dictionary, look up "ass" (the english spelling - not the american) since it also applies to you, until you see fit to renounce your initial statement.

   

Ok so I was incorredt,I am truly sorry.
Cleaven I would bother to insult you,But it seems God has beat me to it.

[Cleaven]

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Ok so I was incorredt,I am truly sorry.
Cleaven I would bother to insult you,But it seems God has beat me to it.

PS: DH was right you are an ass(The American version)  

So in admitting your freedom with the truth you seek to extend the insult. Even so you acknowledge the lie you made, so I don't think you are an ass any longer because you did not make the claim through stupidity. You are still behaving as a cad though and will be treated as such in open fora, unless you seek to offer sincere satisfaction, which I assume you do not.    

[Rob Cole]

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Ok so I was incorredt,I am truly sorry.
Cleaven I would bother to insult you,But it seems God has beat me to it.

PS: DH was right you are an ass(The American version)  

So in admitting your freedom with the truth you seek to extend the insult. Even so you acknowledge the lie you made, so I don't think you are an ass any longer because you did not make the claim through stupidity. You are still behaving as a cad though and will be treated as such in open fora, unless you seek to offer sincere satisfaction, which I assume you do not.    

Cleaven I assume that Die Hard was correct about you.Keep posting and you will prove it.

[Cleaven]

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Cleaven I assume that Die Hard was correct about you.Keep posting and you will prove it.  

If Die Hard is the only support you have in justifying your insult to clintk and then myself then I hold you and your position in complete contempt. You don't want to stand by what you post, then don't post it. You want to use vulgarities in common speech with no regard for the truth then you have made your position clear for all to read. So be it.    

[Rob Cole]

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Cleaven I assume that Die Hard was correct about you.Keep posting and you will prove it.  

If Die Hard is the only support you have in justifying your insult to clintk and then myself then I hold you and your position in complete contempt. You don't want to stand by what you post, then don't post it. You want to use vulgarities in common speech with no regard for the truth then you have made your position clear for all to read. So be it.      

Well Sir I had no problem with you UNTIL you spat out the first insults.
Perhaps you should try living by your own words.

[Cleaven]

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Well Sir I had no problem with you UNTIL you spat out the first insults.
Perhaps you should try living by your own words.  

Your false and uncouth words marked you as a cad and a bounder. This is not in issue. Hence I have made a statement of fact and not an insult.

You have admitted the lie and then turned the insult to me so the description still fits.

I thought you made the asinine post through stupidty but that was not the case, by your own admission, so I withdraw the description of you as being an ass.


 

[Rob Cole]

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Well Sir I had no problem with you UNTIL you spat out the first insults.
Perhaps you should try living by your own words.  

Your false and uncouth words marked you as a cad and a bounder. This is not in issue. Hence I have made a staement of fact and not an insult.

You have admitted the lie and then turned the insult to me so the description still fits.

I thought you made the asinine post through stupidty but that was not the case, by your own admission, so I withdraw the description of you as being an ass.


   

Aye others say they has this problem,So I was wrong and said so.

And I think you are incorrect,You started with the insults directed at me.
I did not do a thing but return them in kind.

[Cleaven]

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Aye others say they has this problem,So I was wrong and said so.

And I think you are incorrect,You started with the insults directed at me.
I did not do a thing but return them in kind.  

At no point have you offered satisfaction to clintk. Only after my criticism of your post and your attitude have you admitted your lie, and then only to insult me, reinforcing my view. My assessment of you will stand as long as you persist in this view and hold onto any idea that your behavior in making your first response is proper and acceptable.