Topic: Let Justice be Served... (Read 8366 times)

Anthony Scott · « **Reply #1 on:** March 04, 2007, 02:02:07 pm »

Wow, that is one fraking BIG ship!

Semper Fi, Carry On

ModelsPlease · « **Reply #2 on:** March 04, 2007, 02:11:51 pm »

What is it ?

Mackie · « **Reply #3 on:** March 04, 2007, 02:56:13 pm »

DAMN

thats awesome man

Chris Johnson · « **Reply #4 on:** March 04, 2007, 03:51:01 pm »

Quoting myself:

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Honest to god, my first reaction was "What the hell?" Honestly, I didn't expect such a variant off the Galaxy-class design. I know there are those who'd like to complain about the Galaxy-class as being bulky and not so pretty-looking, but are they kidding themselves? Especially if you compare to this design here... I still see the lines of a true TNG-era Federation Starship, but it seems much more bulky, less graceful. Even Diane Duane's depiction of a mirror-universe I.S.S. Enterprise-D would look more graceful.

A bit bulky and threatening... I mean, wow! I truly should bow down to your imagination here. Can you give more background information on the design, as to what it exactly is or why you did it or...? *shrug*

Atolm-Rising · « **Reply #5 on:** March 04, 2007, 04:18:37 pm »

Quote from: ModelsPlease on March 04, 2007, 02:11:51 pm

What is it ?

She was designed, and built in secret to be in the Dominion war, but was produced too late, as the war ended sooner than expected. Only 3 vessels where completed: Justice, Challenger, and Odyssey (last 2 ships were named in honour of the felled Galaxy-classed ships, that this programme was intended to supplement).

Atolm-Rising · « **Reply #6 on:** March 04, 2007, 05:16:03 pm »

there's another view

Greenvalv · « **Reply #7 on:** March 04, 2007, 06:02:52 pm »

Wowzer... definitely an "Atolm-styled" Galaxy...

Atolm-Rising · « **Reply #8 on:** March 04, 2007, 06:34:19 pm »

Thanks.
It really is not an Atolmized Galaxy(I got a few of those)...but rather a ship of that lineage that hybridizes and intergrates the developement(s) of the Defiant and other projects, to create a ship that would be used for a war that got cut short. But indeed yes, there is a strong family resemblance to the design(s) that she honours.

E_Look · « **Reply #9 on:** March 04, 2007, 08:34:07 pm »

Maybe several fleets of specialized variants ought to have been built by Starfleet...

... and unleashed on the Borg!

Now, that might make for some fun storylines.

AlchemistiD · « **Reply #10 on:** March 04, 2007, 10:21:04 pm »

Hmm...

*begins writing theme song in japanese*

E_Look · « **Reply #11 on:** March 05, 2007, 12:24:51 am »

Make it sound like a cross between "Teen Titans" and "Batman".

Rod ONeal · « **Reply #12 on:** March 05, 2007, 03:07:07 am »

I think it's an awesome design, personally. If you want it to look swoopier just stretch it.

Then it can be a Sovy variant.

Atolm-Rising · « **Reply #13 on:** March 05, 2007, 01:14:35 pm »

Quote from: Rod ONeal on March 05, 2007, 03:07:07 am

I think it's an awesome design, personally. If you want it to look swoopier just stretch it. Then it can be a Sovy variant.

Screw the Sovie...Gal all the way
Thanks much btw

FoaS_XC · « **Reply #14 on:** March 05, 2007, 01:21:39 pm »

Woah.
As I told you, i never thought I'd see that.
Well done. - I especially like the placement of the deflector.

Atolm-Rising · « **Reply #15 on:** March 05, 2007, 04:04:49 pm »

IMO the deflector in the furthermost part of the ship makes the most sense, in general...But i do it cause it has that evil eye

DookeyKing · « **Reply #16 on:** March 06, 2007, 10:52:20 am »

I love the idea behind this design. The only thing that bothers me is that there is so little space in the secondary hull with this warp nacelle configuration. Like I said, I think the idea is great, but I would like to see a larger secondary hull.

And the deflector looks great in that location.

Scott

AlchemistiD · « **Reply #17 on:** March 06, 2007, 01:13:45 pm »

Quote from: Atolm-Rising on March 05, 2007, 04:04:49 pm

IMO the deflector in the furthermost part of the ship makes the most sense, in general...But i do it cause it has that evil eye

you should name one Apsalus then, lol

atheorhaven · « **Reply #18 on:** March 06, 2007, 01:15:44 pm »

Think that it looks great as well, but again.. I'd enlarge the secondary hull too. Simply because you'll need room for warp engines, plus deuterium storage at the top. People can live in the saucer.

Crew roughly 500-650 or so?

AlchemistiD · « **Reply #19 on:** March 06, 2007, 02:56:57 pm »

750 if the accommodations are spartan like a Defiant's, would be my guess.

Atolm-Rising · « **Reply #20 on:** March 06, 2007, 03:39:36 pm »

The Crew is about 520-620. As for the dueterium, it can be put in the same place as the Gal, and also in the ventral section that the Deflector has now vacated.
The "secondary hull" is more like a "warp hub" with frills

If I extended the so called secondary hull, then the ship will look disproportioned...you compare the saucer length to the sec-hull, and you find that they are very close to each other...the sec-hull would be much more dense as the warp coils are as stated in the TNG tech manual to be rediculously heavy for their size, hence very dense. So, if a toy or miniature of this ship was ever made, the secondary hull would me made in metal, while the saucer would be plastic.

Atolm-Rising · « **Reply #21 on:** March 07, 2007, 08:36:10 pm »

E_Look · « **Reply #22 on:** March 07, 2007, 09:11:55 pm »

Man, Atolm, you should have been the guy to pick up after Jack Kirby and carry on his New Genesis and Apokolips stuff... Superman, Jimmy Olsen, and all. Your artwork has that feel to it... just like Kirby's.

I really wonder what some Apokolips monster-villain would look like under your style!

Atolm-Rising · « **Reply #23 on:** March 08, 2007, 11:29:08 am »

Quote from: E_Look NCC-9091 on March 07, 2007, 09:11:55 pm

Man, Atolm, you should have been the guy to pick up after Jack Kirby and carry on his New Genesis and Apokolips stuff... Superman, Jimmy Olsen, and all. Your artwork has that feel to it... just like Kirby's.

I really wonder what some Apokolips monster-villain would look like under your style!

Thanks mate, that means a lot.

Quote from: Fallen_Warrior on March 08, 2007, 07:05:46 am

1 question what are those small tanish rectangles on the mainhull following the curve of the curve of the hull? they look like deflectors, if thats the case do they help in creating larger subspace feilds for faster than warp flight?

They are the auxillary deflector array.

Chris Johnson · « **Reply #24 on:** March 09, 2007, 12:37:31 pm »

Quoting myself again:

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As I see the finished product in a perspective (and top) view, I like it generally. I'm not to sure about the impulse placements and the somewhat Enterprise-J-esque dorsal/ventral saucer design and I wonder if the stardrive is big enough (I'd guess so), but aside from concerns I like the warship design. I could see it plowing through a fleet in combat...

By the way, may I ask what exactly she is armed with... I could easily tell Phaser Arrays (Type XII?), perhaps the pulse phaser cannons from the Defiant-class in a similar position, and... *shrug*

In any case, although not seemingly as bulky-looking in a perspective or top view, still a threatening sight.

Atolm-Rising · « **Reply #25 on:** March 09, 2007, 03:18:12 pm »

9 type 12 phaser strips
4 pulse phasers (by the bussards)
4 quantum torp launchers (2 on the sides of the main deflector, and 2 on the dorsal aft neck)
2 photon torpedo launchers (one in the forward neck, and another on the aft ventral of the secondary hull. both are behind retractable hatches)
Ablative armour
regenerative shielding

Atolm-Rising · « **Reply #26 on:** March 10, 2007, 06:40:15 pm »

This is a scaled 120 metre drone prototype that was used for testing before the Full scaled ship was made.
it was designed to be launched from a modified miranda mothership(design to come). it also has an option for a crew of 6 researchers.
the pod on the bottom is for data gathering.

Starforce2 · « **Reply #27 on:** March 10, 2007, 08:13:20 pm »

what is the large appendage sticking out of the ventral area?

Chris Johnson · « **Reply #28 on:** March 10, 2007, 10:08:38 pm »

Quote from: Starforce2 on March 10, 2007, 08:13:20 pm

what is the large appendage sticking out of the ventral area?

Quote from: Atolm-Rising on March 10, 2007, 06:40:15 pm

...The pod on the bottom is for data gathering.

(Emphasis mine.)

Atolm-Rising · « **Reply #29 on:** March 10, 2007, 10:54:32 pm »

Here's the Miranda-esque "Mothership"

Bernard Guignard · « **Reply #30 on:** March 11, 2007, 07:05:56 am »

Hello Atolm
That is very nice sort of the Lost era time line Miranda. Great work

Atolm-Rising · « **Reply #31 on:** March 11, 2007, 09:29:25 am »

Quote from: Bernard Guignard on March 11, 2007, 07:05:56 am

Hello Atolm
That is very nice sort of the Lost era time line Miranda. Great work

Thanks, but its not Lost-era...It essentially is a heavily modified Miranda-class that has been converted into a Testbed for new technologies (thats why she has hardpoints through-out the hull, and also has detachable hull sections if needed), and also can serve as a mothership for scaled vehicles and/or Drone-ships.

Atolm-Rising · « **Reply #32 on:** March 11, 2007, 09:00:41 pm »

"Trial Runs"

Atolm-Rising · « **Reply #33 on:** March 12, 2007, 10:26:27 am »

This next one is an illustration that I was not sure if I would do...It is the prototype Justice (orange one) in her later years as a technology demonstrator, to show off at "space-shows" (aka air shows and fleet week-type things in the ST universe).
Enjoy

Atolm-Rising · « **Reply #34 on:** March 12, 2007, 11:59:58 am »

Atolm-Rising · « **Reply #35 on:** March 12, 2007, 06:23:05 pm »

hmmmm...no bites

dragoon · « **Reply #36 on:** March 12, 2007, 07:33:35 pm »

That's some crazy work, but that Galaxy just looks plain strange

My sense of aesthetic seems to not take to it too much..... perhaps if the saucer was lower, and pushed forward slightly... more sort of Voyager/ Ent-E style?

It kind of looks, well... Fat.

Either way it's stunning in it's originality.

Though that prototype one is somehow better, not sure why.

Atolm-Rising · « **Reply #37 on:** March 13, 2007, 01:08:29 pm »

thanks

DookeyKing · « **Reply #38 on:** March 13, 2007, 02:03:04 pm »

Quote from: Atolm-Rising on March 06, 2007, 03:39:36 pm

If I extended the so called secondary hull, then the ship will look disproportioned...you compare the saucer length to the sec-hull, and you find that they are very close to each other...

When I was talking about the size of the secondary hull, I was actually referring to width rather than length. Either way, I still love what you've done here. And the Miranda variant is sweet too.

Scott

Atolm-Rising · « **Reply #39 on:** March 13, 2007, 06:19:35 pm »

thanks mate

any other comments on how this project opted out?

Scottish Andy · « **Reply #40 on:** March 15, 2007, 09:02:00 am »

Again, I too am wowed by your inventiveness and originality, but to my overly Trekinised ship sense aesthetic, the Galaxy evolution Justice looks unbalanced. It needs some outboard nacelles to make her look right in my eyes. Or, barring that, the two hulls need to be right on top of each other with no (or very little) forward or aft staggering.

Everything else looks well proportioned, and the side-on ortho looks great, as I can imagine those warp engines in outriggers. The top-down does look awesome too, with the primary and secondary hulls well balanced against each other, but again, I need some outboard nacelles to complete the design.

But then again, I'm a traditionalist. *grin*

atheorhaven · « **Reply #41 on:** March 15, 2007, 12:44:54 pm »

One thing that I think of with this one is how it'd look during saucer sep. i can actually see this one working.

I also remember comments about the original Big E.. if it were a real ship.. the impulse engines would cause the ship to pitch down and just keep flipping end over end and the warp nacelles would rip off the ship and take half of the secondary hull with it.

Chris Johnson · « **Reply #42 on:** March 20, 2007, 01:02:48 am »

Quote from: atheorhaven on March 15, 2007, 12:44:54 pm

I also remember comments about the original Big E.. if it were a real ship.. the impulse engines would cause the ship to pitch down and just keep flipping end over end and the warp nacelles would rip off the ship and take half of the secondary hull with it.

Which is why I don't think impulse engines are simply advanced fusion rocket engines. It's got to be more advanced/different than that if it can propel a starship in reverse direction as how warp drive could with the Big E in "Balance of Terror" [TOS].

admiral horton · « **Reply #43 on:** March 20, 2007, 10:22:28 pm »

Quote from: Atolm-Rising on March 11, 2007, 09:00:41 pm

"Trial Runs"

Atolm-Rising · « **Reply #44 on:** April 29, 2007, 12:52:33 am »

here are some renders of my low poly mesh
Enjoy:

Renders are courtesy of the Deadman

Geks · « **Reply #45 on:** April 29, 2007, 01:53:09 am »

I like that, never seen anything like it b4.. great work man

Atolm-Rising · « **Reply #46 on:** April 29, 2007, 09:38:35 pm »

Lepton · « **Reply #47 on:** May 04, 2007, 09:11:20 am »

Quote from: Atolm-Rising on April 29, 2007, 12:52:33 am

here are some renders of my low poly mesh
Enjoy:

Renders are courtesy of the Deadman

I am sure someone will want to slug me, but Atolm, have you thought about making models for Star Trek: Legacy? Your designs have a fantastic vision and they would look really great in Legacy.

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