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Offline Chrystoff

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Knox or Bragg Class Frigate
« on: December 10, 2006, 01:12:28 pm »
Most everyone on this board is aware of the Knox Class frigate. It is basically a scaled down version of the Miranda/Avenger class starship. The extended hull is shortened, and the torpedo and rollbar are removed, leaving just the rollbar phasers. I've attached 2 pics. In the "Ships of the Starfleet" publication, this vessel is called the Knox, and it has 2 hanger bays. In "Jackill's Starfleet Reference Manual," the vessel is called the Bragg, and it has just one landing bay.

I was wondering if someone might be able to take an existing Miranda/Reliant ship, remove the rollbar weapons pod except for the phasers, and shorten the extended hull, creating the Bragg/Knox frigate. I've tried, but I do not have the tools or skill to pull it off.
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Re: Knox or Bragg Class Frigate
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2006, 02:01:43 pm »
No takers? :mischief:
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Re: Knox or Bragg Class Frigate
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2006, 06:11:32 pm »
 ;D

IIRC, P81 made one but I cant find it...

Zambie Zan has a Miranda pack that might be of interest for a suitable substitute:

http://www.battleclinic.com/docks/files/images/thumbs/0/09113c4acafeef1c61dd1a63cda8f525.JPG

http://www.battleclinic.com/docks/files/dist/index.php/file,3dfe76e17111f0954b867b041a1103c0.rar

Also Mackie's site has a few Miranda STYLE kitbashes but I don't recall the sip names I'm thinking of.

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Re: Knox or Bragg Class Frigate
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2006, 06:36:26 pm »
Quote from: Klingon Fanatic on December 11, 2006, 06:11:32 pm
;D

IIRC, P81 made one but I cant find it...

Zambie Zan has a Miranda pack that might be of interest for a suitable substitute:

http://www.battleclinic.com/docks/files/images/thumbs/0/09113c4acafeef1c61dd1a63cda8f525.JPG

http://www.battleclinic.com/docks/files/dist/index.php/file,3dfe76e17111f0954b867b041a1103c0.rar

Also Mackie's site has a few Miranda STYLE kitbashes but I don't recall the sip names I'm thinking of.

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Thanks KF. I have already checked out everything you've mentioned:

P81 did in fact have a Knox. I have it and I'm using it now. But, it has his old textures, not the newer, better known ones that we see on all the kitbashes. It'd be cool if GaFY could up date it (hint, hint).
Zambie Zan's Miranda Pack is exactly that: A Miranda and variants, with extended hulls that are too long for a Knox.
There is nothing currently available on Mackie's site that will fit the bill.

Note the differences between a Miranda and a Knox; A Knox is much smaller, making it frigate and not a light cruiser.






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Re: Knox or Bragg Class Frigate
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2006, 06:53:34 pm »
Another thing to note is the position of the Mega phasers and warp engines between Jackill's Knox and  Ships of the Starfleet

So you can build 2 Variants there  ;D
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Re: Knox or Bragg Class Frigate
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2006, 11:27:13 pm »
Have you tried to copy the model into one of the textured ones I did you see if it works?
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Re: Knox or Bragg Class Frigate
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2006, 08:12:58 pm »
Quote from: GotAFarmYet? on December 11, 2006, 11:27:13 pm
Have you tried to copy the model into one of the textured ones I did you see if it works?
I gave that a try. It didn't work. I suppose i could be doing something wrong, but I have no idea what that could be.
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Re: Knox or Bragg Class Frigate
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2006, 01:49:13 am »
Send me the files and I will look at it could be something simple
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Re: Knox or Bragg Class Frigate
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2006, 02:45:13 am »
P 81's Knox mesh was no different in size then a standard Miranda so I went to work on it, added GAFY? textures and here's a Quick WIP of the proposed model version, I still have to do the other version ............

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Re: Knox or Bragg Class Frigate
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2006, 10:33:46 am »
Quote from: Fallen_Warrior on December 13, 2006, 04:28:18 am
Thats turned out pretty spiffy MP , although for it to be exact it still needs a little bit of work which you probbly already know :P
But, spiffy nonetheless! That's looking really good, MP.
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Re: Knox or Bragg Class Frigate
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2006, 11:24:52 am »
 I'm looking forward to seeing a true knox class frigate with the shortened extended hull. but the version models Please has created would make a nice Miranda varient  ;D
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Re: Knox or Bragg Class Frigate
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2006, 12:21:55 am »
Quote from: Bernard Guignard on December 13, 2006, 11:24:52 am
I'm looking forward to seeing a true knox class frigate with the shortened extended hull. but the version models Please has created would make a nice Miranda varient  ;D

Think you need to look at the Pic again it is shortened, at least it appears so in the two provided picutres.
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Re: Knox or Bragg Class Frigate
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2006, 05:37:22 am »
Quote from: Bernard Guignard on December 13, 2006, 11:24:52 am
I'm looking forward to seeing a true knox class frigate with the shortened extended hull. but the version models Please has created would make a nice Miranda varient  ;D

It is quite shortened...reduced 50% of the original length in the rear,  ;).
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Re: Knox or Bragg Class Frigate
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2006, 10:04:39 am »
Quote from: Fallen_Warrior on December 14, 2006, 06:46:57 am
MP Thats pretty darn close although the Impulse Crystal needs some tweaking. But its deffinatly getting there

Fixed both top and bottom.........
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Re: Knox or Bragg Class Frigate
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2006, 10:26:22 am »
MP, that is amazing work, in such a short amount of time. :thumbsup:
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Re: Knox or Bragg Class Frigate
« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2006, 11:16:45 am »
Thanks F_W. Hey GAFY? do you think you could PLEASE wip up a set of Saucer (both) and Nacelle regs for this ?

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Re: Knox or Bragg Class Frigate
« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2006, 02:50:37 am »
BUMP
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Re: Knox or Bragg Class Frigate
« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2006, 11:48:48 am »
Very nice work MP  ;D
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