Topic: How many here are going to buy Legacy? (Read 10494 times)

FPF-Tobin Dax · « **on:** November 06, 2006, 09:17:46 am »

It's coming out in a few weeks. No persistent dyna-like universe, just a campaign on the dvd and multi-player. Multiplayer action could be pretty intense.

Icehawk · « **Reply #1 on:** November 06, 2006, 10:59:24 am »

i might for the singleplayer aspect of it but i think multiplay is going to be basic deathmatch style stuff

Klingon Fanatic · « **Reply #2 on:** November 06, 2006, 11:51:59 am »

$:-\$

So far, it looks like a souped up SFC3. Hopefully this won't be like ST: Bridge Commander. If I want to watch a Trek battle, I'll watch a Trek episode or ST: BC. In the meantime, If I want a multi-era game, I can download one of Chris Jones' multi-era mods.

1. Without any script modification abilities for us non-scripters I may pass on this myself.

2. As for model replacement, if that is as hard as SFC3 I will definitely pass on this.

3. Again with a limited number of weapons (e.g., no missiles/carriers/fighters) I won't be terribly interested.

4. Not unless it has a demo. The SFC1 demo had the "Repair Roundevous" in its demo which hooked me into the SFC1/EAW/OP series. I can't say that about any other Trek game. Frankly, I'm surprised that if ST: Legacy is such a good game why isn't a demo available now?

SFC: OP keeps getting BETTER over time thanks to all the user modifications out there (i.e., Chris Jones, Firesoul, El-Karnak, Bonk, Nuclear Wessels, Dizzy, et. al....)

I've been burned too many times by BAD Trek games... I'd like to be proven wrong about this one. In the meantime, I'd really like to read what other folks have to say

Qapla!

KF

Skaren · « **Reply #3 on:** November 06, 2006, 03:13:33 pm »

Holding also until I hear reviews from folks here.

FCM_SFHQ_XC · « **Reply #4 on:** November 06, 2006, 03:49:26 pm »

Probably will get it by Christmas

Age · « **Reply #5 on:** November 06, 2006, 04:39:10 pm »

I would listen to the Argus Array podcasts as to what it is you are wanting and Chris Jones knows a lot of info on Legacey.I would download the Argus Array podcast in the General SFC forum.Why there is no demo I am not sure as to why.

Dfly · « **Reply #6 on:** November 06, 2006, 05:35:04 pm »

I will buy it, though it may have to be ordered online as due to where I live. I will also try it out, but unless it blows OP away, I will be here still.

FPF-DieHard · « **Reply #7 on:** November 07, 2006, 09:41:20 am »

I will buy it to support Trek Gaming. Developers need to see money can be made on this stuff.

Though Like my other games, I'm sure I'll loose interest after I beat it.

KBF-Crim · « **Reply #8 on:** November 07, 2006, 09:54:27 am »

Not me...I dont have anything that will run it....

FPF-Tobin Dax · « **Reply #9 on:** November 07, 2006, 03:08:13 pm »

I'm having a lot of trouble trying to justify putting out 500 to $600 in upgrades just to play this game.

Braxton_RIP · « **Reply #10 on:** November 07, 2006, 06:04:10 pm »

There is a league going up at the moment, GSA battles and what not, between fleets. Sorta like the old days of SFC1

http://wgleague.com/stl/default.asp

Go check it out

FPF-Tobin Dax · « **Reply #11 on:** November 07, 2006, 07:08:46 pm »

Not sure if I could take all the stupid, arrogant testosterone posturing crap again. Also in these days of multiple email accounts, cheating is much easier, ie selfconfirming.

Dfly · « **Reply #12 on:** November 07, 2006, 07:21:22 pm »

CUGS is also offering a league, and last time I looked, it had 4 fleets already signed up.

Morph · « **Reply #13 on:** November 07, 2006, 07:30:59 pm »

We are welcoming back the some of the SL Admins to help with running the League. People are registering from many different Forum sites. It looks like the old Mplayer days all over again. Should be alot of fun!!!

Get yourself registered at http://wgleague.com/stl/

Fleets Registered so far:
32nd Fleet

5th Fleet

9th Fleet

Federation Blue Fleet

Federation Deep Exploration Fleet

Omega Squadron

Romulan Star Command

Shadow Fleet

Plus three more getting signed up this week.

Lepton · « **Reply #14 on:** November 07, 2006, 07:44:42 pm »

Definitely buying if they can get it out the door. It will have way more players than this game unfortunately or fortunately depending on your perspective. It will be nice to play a trek game with an active enthusiastic player base.

Walleye · « **Reply #15 on:** November 07, 2006, 08:37:06 pm »

Quote from: Morph on November 07, 2006, 07:30:59 pm

We are welcoming back the some of the SL Admins to help with running the League.

Well there goes the neighborhood.

Julin Eurthyr · « **Reply #16 on:** November 07, 2006, 08:45:08 pm »

If my system can hack it Legacy sounds like a late-bargain basement ($19.99 so I get real manuals) game, if the reviews indicate that this game is good then I might pick it up on semi-markdown ($29.99).

Not intense / interested enough for me to divert $49.99 at it...

FPF-Tobin Dax · « **Reply #17 on:** November 07, 2006, 08:59:33 pm »

Quote from: Walleye on November 07, 2006, 08:37:06 pm

Quote from: Morph on November 07, 2006, 07:30:59 pm
We are welcoming back the some of the SL Admins to help with running the League.

Well there goes the neighborhood.

Yeah SL went under in a special way...

Morph · « **Reply #18 on:** November 08, 2006, 05:50:34 am »

Quote from: FPF-Tobin Dax on November 07, 2006, 08:59:33 pm

Quote from: Walleye on November 07, 2006, 08:37:06 pm
Quote from: Morph on November 07, 2006, 07:30:59 pm
We are welcoming back the some of the SL Admins to help with running the League.

Well there goes the neighborhood.

Yeah SL went under in a special way...

Yea but I don't think Intrepid, Krom or Tim had anyhting to do with the way SL closed down.

KBF MalaK · « **Reply #19 on:** November 08, 2006, 09:55:51 am »

I may just to strip models out of it. It promises to be another 'Bridge Commander' game that favors the Federation- YUK !!

FPF-Tobin Dax · « **Reply #20 on:** November 08, 2006, 04:36:58 pm »

The release date keeps getting pushed back, from nov. 7thm to 21st to what now appears december 7th....I was just checking out bethesdas' forum.

Icehawk · « **Reply #21 on:** November 09, 2006, 08:03:59 am »

well that didnt take long hehe fed bashing allready well it is a game based off starfleet captains afterall you cant fly other races except in mutiplay and that is limited to a legue type or isp type matches or gamespy i imagine

KAT Chuut-Ritt · « **Reply #22 on:** November 09, 2006, 07:20:32 pm »

Be very afraid, I talked with Kougar on messenger tonight and he has the game on order.

IAF Lyrkiller · « **Reply #23 on:** November 09, 2006, 07:48:34 pm »

It all depends upon the reviews like some of you have said.

My desktop will and can handle anything you throw at it and I am not kidding.

Morph · « **Reply #24 on:** November 10, 2006, 05:31:37 am »

Quote from: Icehawk on November 09, 2006, 08:03:59 am

well that didnt take long hehe fed bashing allready well it is a game based off starfleet captains afterall you cant fly other races except in mutiplay and that is limited to a legue type or isp type matches or gamespy i imagine

That is un true! In single play yes your statement is correct, In mutiplay you can play any of the four playable races. I would suggest you watch some of the movies and game clips to get a better understanding.

Icehawk · « **Reply #25 on:** November 10, 2006, 07:37:51 am »

thats what i said you can play them in multiplay i just meant the overall theme of the game is you as a federation commander

Alphageek · « **Reply #26 on:** November 10, 2006, 09:23:35 am »

Legacy: 4 races

OP: 16 races

Legacy: No Dynaverse

OP: Active and persistent Dynaverse

Legacy: $50.00

OP: $5.00

Legacy: $700 in upgrades just to run it.

OP: Runs like a charm on a standard Dell.

I'll be sticking with OP. This Legacy looks like a cross between Bridge Commander and Armada.

Lepton · « **Reply #27 on:** November 10, 2006, 12:30:20 pm »

Quote from: Alphageek on November 10, 2006, 09:23:35 am

Legacy: 4 races

OP: 16 races

Legacy: No Dynaverse

OP: Active and persistent Dynaverse

Legacy: $50.00

OP: $5.00

Legacy: $700 in upgrades just to run it.

OP: Runs like a charm on a standard Dell.

I'll be sticking with OP. This Legacy looks like a cross between Bridge Commander and Armada.

Legacy: 700,000 players
OP: 7 players

FPF-DieHard · « **Reply #28 on:** November 10, 2006, 12:40:21 pm »

No game touched OP in regards of tactical Depth. I still learn new stuff al the time in this game.

Every once in a while I just need some Eye candy, espicailly since I just bough a X2 4800, New motherboard, and 2 GBs of RAM

Brush Wolf · « **Reply #29 on:** November 10, 2006, 01:18:25 pm »

I will be getting it but I don't think the game play will live up to the SFC series.

Lepton · « **Reply #30 on:** November 10, 2006, 02:37:48 pm »

It will be a different type of tactical depth. Legacy has these tactical elements:

1. 3D movement
2. Tactical warping
3. Environmental effects on targeting and detection (i.e. actually hiding behind a planet or asteroid, nebula effects)
4. Subsystem targeting
5. Cloaking, obviously
6. An array of differing weapon systems
7. Customizable ships
8. Command of up to 4 ships in a player fleet

I think a better SFC3 is a good analogy is this instance. Obviously, SFC2 just has more of everything, but I think Legacy will have something to offer that we have not yet seen in Trek gaming.

KBF MalaK · « **Reply #31 on:** November 10, 2006, 04:34:50 pm »

Quote from: Lepton on November 10, 2006, 02:37:48 pm

It will be a different type of tactical depth. Legacy has these tactical elements:

1. 3D movement
2. Tactical warping
3. Environmental effects on targeting and detection (i.e. actually hiding behind a planet or asteroid, nebula effects)
4. Subsystem targeting
5. Cloaking, obviously
6. An array of differing weapon systems
7. Customizable ships
8. Command of up to 4 ships in a player fleet

I think a better SFC3 is a good analogy is this instance. Obviously, SFC2 just has more of everything, but I think Legacy will have something to offer that we have not yet seen in Trek gaming.

Sounds like 'klingon academy' to me.

Brush Wolf · « **Reply #32 on:** November 10, 2006, 04:49:38 pm »

Quote from: Lepton on November 10, 2006, 02:37:48 pm

It will be a different type of tactical depth. Legacy has these tactical elements:

1. 3D movement
2. Tactical warping
3. Environmental effects on targeting and detection (i.e. actually hiding behind a planet or asteroid, nebula effects)
4. Subsystem targeting
5. Cloaking, obviously
6. An array of differing weapon systems
7. Customizable ships
8. Command of up to 4 ships in a player fleet

I think a better SFC3 is a good analogy is this instance. Obviously, SFC2 just has more of everything, but I think Legacy will have something to offer that we have not yet seen in Trek gaming.

Well, I can see issues with number 4 particularly with the multi-player aspect. Almost every implementation of this that I have seen, including SFC3, gives to much benefit with little or no penalty making it the normal attack method instead of something to use in special circumstances.

Lepton · « **Reply #33 on:** November 10, 2006, 05:32:59 pm »

Not defending the game per se, but targeting subsystems is canon and seems to be done rather readily and easily in most of Star Trek battles. To me it stretches credulity as well. "Target engines!!" That seems to work all the time and it really shouldn't. That said, yes, I am hoping that subsystem targeting means doing damage significantly less often than with general targeting. One reason I mention subsystem targeting is that as far as I know you can literally blow off an engine as happens in the movies and TV shows which to me sounds pretty cool.

FPF-Tobin Dax · « **Reply #34 on:** November 10, 2006, 06:18:21 pm »

According to the legacy forums, there is no film room to watch your missions/ battles back.

I'm still somewhat interested, but this is looking more like SFC3 Lite. Looks great and is less filling.

Braxton_RIP · « **Reply #35 on:** November 10, 2006, 06:37:00 pm »

There is always Fraps if you really want to record your battles that much. Easier to share that way too.

KAT Chuut-Ritt · « **Reply #36 on:** November 10, 2006, 08:50:03 pm »

Quote from: FPF-Tobin Dax on November 10, 2006, 06:18:21 pm

but this is looking more like SFC3 Lite. Looks great and is less filling.

If nothing else perhaps our people can do some recruiting and bring in new blood to sfc2. When SFC3 fizzled we got a few pickups.

Lepton · « **Reply #37 on:** November 10, 2006, 09:01:36 pm »

Don't forget that it has Rick Knox' models in it.

FPF-DieHard · « **Reply #38 on:** November 14, 2006, 11:46:02 am »

Quote from: Lepton on November 10, 2006, 09:01:36 pm

Don't forget that it has Rick Knox' models in it.

I'm sold!

Kruk · « **Reply #39 on:** November 14, 2006, 07:22:31 pm »

I'll buy it. Just bought myself a new computer yesterday. Finaly getting rid of the one I got in 1999 and played so many SFC games on it. I'll miss it but it keeps crashing every hour or so.

I also intend on installing SFC:OP on that new comp. I never seen SFC 1, 2, OP on a great vid card. All I had was my 8MB built in video card. Should be intereresting and a all new game for me.

I wonder if I'll be able to starcastle on Legacy (scratches head)

FPF-Tobin Dax · « **Reply #40 on:** November 24, 2006, 11:17:50 pm »

Videos of x-box play are out. Just eye candy. Less tactical depth than sfc 3. Get your trigger finger ready. Video link at legacy forums and wgleague.

http://www.on10.net/

Lepton · « **Reply #41 on:** November 24, 2006, 11:23:29 pm »

Yep, when a Connie refit has just two phaser hardpoints on it, we definitely are below SFC3 standards. It's a real shame. There is some possibility that the gameplay footage is old and that things have been made more canon, but I doubt it. I am still buying it if the reviews say that it doesn't suck, but at this point with the reduced feature set and less than stellar weapons implementation, I don't think it is going to have a lot of replay value.

Alphageek · « **Reply #42 on:** November 25, 2006, 03:51:03 am »

Judging from that video, the game looks like a cross between Bridge Commander and Armada. Very pretty but there doesn't seem to be much to it.

Lepton · « **Reply #43 on:** November 25, 2006, 11:11:39 am »

One positive thing that I have seen is apparently the game will be highly moddable with even the creation of new weapons, so things that are goofy or missing might be fixable.

FPF-Tobin Dax · « **Reply #44 on:** November 25, 2006, 11:18:15 am »

Shouldn't have to have the modders fix it. What will that mean for balance? Two hardpoints for phasers on the Connie? Cloaking has a time limit? Cloak and warp need time to recharge? Photons only work on the hull and not shields? Wrath of khan type battles were supposed to be the inspiration? What a joke! I note that the Legacy forum is offline today too! What next?

Lepton · « **Reply #45 on:** November 25, 2006, 12:06:13 pm »

I agree. It's not a pretty picture. I just about laughed out loud when I heard Conti or whoever say that TWOK battle was the inspiration. I think that is total marketing BS. Any trekkie loves that battle, so he says it so that he can show you he knows what you want. Saying and delivering are two different things.

FPF-Tobin Dax · « **Reply #46 on:** November 25, 2006, 12:23:03 pm »

Well I am certainly not buying it dec. 8th if it makes that date. I'll see what people say and I'll hold off definitely on upgrading my system until boxing day, if I do at all. Is there any good multiplayer space simulator out there right now that has a good player base without a monthly fee?

Lepton · « **Reply #47 on:** November 25, 2006, 01:08:18 pm »

Some guy in Edmonton says that ToysRUs has the Xbox version for sale today. Significant doubts are being expressed.

FPF-Tobin Dax · « **Reply #48 on:** November 25, 2006, 01:34:08 pm »

futureshop.ca has just moved back the release date from december 5th to 8th.

IMagine if it looked and played like this? http://www.gametrailers.com/umwatcher.php?id=16457 Picture star trek ships instead and think of how it would have revived the trek gaming franchise. this looks like babylon 5 meets BSG.

Klingon Fanatic · « **Reply #49 on:** November 25, 2006, 04:12:29 pm »

Quote from: FPF-Tobin Dax on November 25, 2006, 01:34:08 pm

futureshop.ca has just moved back the release date from december 5th to 8th. IMagine if it looked and played like this? http://www.gametrailers.com/umwatcher.php?id=16457 Picture star trek ships instead and think of how it would have revived the trek gaming franchise. this looks like babylon 5 meets BSG.

If Nexus 2 does actually come out, I bet Darkdrone will make the conversions to get Trek ships into that game. He was one of a handful of folks that did that for the first Nexus game.

KF

FPF-Tobin Dax · « **Reply #50 on:** November 25, 2006, 04:23:21 pm »

It sounds like it won't from the linked site, too bad if that's the case, it look so beautiful.

KBF MalaK · « **Reply #51 on:** December 05, 2006, 12:43:15 pm »

Quote from: FPF-Tobin Dax on November 25, 2006, 01:34:08 pm

futureshop.ca has just moved back the release date from december 5th to 8th. IMagine if it looked and played like this? http://www.gametrailers.com/umwatcher.php?id=16457 Picture star trek ships instead and think of how it would have revived the trek gaming franchise. this looks like babylon 5 meets BSG.

That looks incredible (and reminds me of Freespace 2), but it'd be incredible waste of an awesome game engine like that to make it trek based IMHO, but I'll buy it if it ever get finished (Nexus 2).

FCM_SFHQ_XC · « **Reply #52 on:** December 05, 2006, 02:34:37 pm »

Well Legacy just became avaliable in my area, so I'll get a DVDROM then I'll get ST Legacy.

[ISC]Phaser · « **Reply #53 on:** December 09, 2006, 03:42:25 pm »

After play testing this game for a few hours i have uninstalled it,Legacy is just Armada with better visuals but its still the old Armada engine,if you liked Armada then you will like Legacy,personally SFC3 is actually a better game (oh my God did i actually say that) LOL, i guess its back to OP.

KBF-Crim · « **Reply #54 on:** December 09, 2006, 06:27:44 pm »

I bought it on the 8th.....thank god I didnt open it yet...

SkyFlyer · « **Reply #55 on:** December 10, 2006, 12:47:00 am »

Not buying it.

KBF-Crim · « **Reply #56 on:** December 10, 2006, 12:58:01 am »

Quote from: SkyFlyer on December 10, 2006, 12:47:00 am

Not buying it.

No really....I didnt open it...

*snicker*

KBF-Crim · « **Reply #57 on:** December 10, 2006, 01:11:09 am »

Two mods of note....from 9th omega...save game in campaign...

and *drum roll please*

8 player map mod

http://startrek.bethsoft.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3874&st=0&gopid=81762&#entry81762

Well done omega!

Walleye · « **Reply #58 on:** December 10, 2006, 12:27:05 pm »

crim i followed the link you posted just to read about the game a little and all i can say is omg. you guys thought the taldren boards got hot from time to time take a peek over there its all out nuclear war!!

looks like legacy will go down as the biggest bomb in star trek history.

perhaps now we will get a true sfc3.

KBF-Crim · « **Reply #59 on:** December 10, 2006, 12:38:33 pm »

LMAO.....yes...the natives are a bit restless...

I (and a few others) have been plugging OP though....

FPF-DieHard · « **Reply #60 on:** December 10, 2006, 03:06:40 pm »

Quote from: KBF-Crim on December 10, 2006, 12:38:33 pm

LMAO.....yes...the natives are a bit restless...

I (and a few others) have been plugging OP though....

Would it be wrong if somebody leaked over there that NOTHING checks CD keys for OP . . .

KBF-Crim · « **Reply #61 on:** December 10, 2006, 03:32:57 pm »

Quote from: FPF-DieHard on December 10, 2006, 03:06:40 pm

Quote from: KBF-Crim on December 10, 2006, 12:38:33 pm
LMAO.....yes...the natives are a bit restless...

I (and a few others) have been plugging OP though....

Would it be wrong if somebody leaked over there that NOTHING checks CD keys for OP . . .

Still checks when you install it...

That's why we still issue new CD keys here...upon some moderate proof of ownership...

FPF-DieHard · « **Reply #62 on:** December 10, 2006, 03:45:03 pm »

Quote from: KBF-Crim on December 10, 2006, 03:32:57 pm

That's why we still issue new CD keys here...upon some moderate proof of ownership...

I say we take their word for it, humans generally are honest creatures

KBF-Crim · « **Reply #63 on:** December 10, 2006, 03:46:43 pm »

Quote from: FPF-DieHard on December 10, 2006, 03:45:03 pm

Quote from: KBF-Crim on December 10, 2006, 03:32:57 pm

That's why we still issue new CD keys here...upon some moderate proof of ownership...

I say we take their word for it, humans generally are honest creatures

KBF MalaK · « **Reply #64 on:** December 10, 2006, 07:37:19 pm »

I've read on many sites lately of the suchyness of legacy, but look on the bright side- lots of models to extract out of it for insertion into other games.

Lepton · « **Reply #65 on:** December 10, 2006, 08:14:20 pm »

It's not that bad. It's buggy and multiplayer is a mess, but if they straighten things out it could be a good game. Let me give you some positive tactical features.

1. 3D weapon arcs. I have found this very challenging, but maybe I just suck at it.
2. Seemingly narrow heavy weapon arcs. I have found it hard to position my ship to get a good photon lock when I want it and where I want it.
3. Limited heavy weapons. Photons and such are not unlimited. Waste your shots and you're screwed.
4. Tough shields. Want to take down a battleship's shields with a mere cruiser? It's damn hard to do, near impossible for me, but then again I suck at the game.
5. A phaser capacitor. It's not phasers all the time whenever you want it. If you pop off a phaser every time you can, you are really wasting energy.
6. Energy allocation. You can direct more energy to weapons, shields, or engines or a combination of the two. This effects the efficiency of the systems. Better speed, better turn, better shields, better weapon recharging.
7. Differing ship roles and characteristic. Battleships are slow and powerful. Cruisers, more nimble and well armed. Destroyers, fast, agile, and pack of heavy weapons punch. Scouts, great sensor for hunting the enemy.

I could list more things but I won't. I am not saying it has the depth of SFC, but it's not utter sh*te either.

Governor Ronjar · « **Reply #66 on:** December 10, 2006, 08:18:07 pm »

Quote from: Alphageek on November 10, 2006, 09:23:35 am

Legacy: 4 races

OP: 16 races

Legacy: No Dynaverse

OP: Active and persistent Dynaverse

Legacy: $50.00

OP: $5.00

Legacy: $700 in upgrades just to run it.

OP: Runs like a charm on a standard Dell.

I'll be sticking with OP. This Legacy looks like a cross between Bridge Commander and Armada.

Damn...sounds like you guys need new computers.

--thu guv!

KBF MalaK · « **Reply #67 on:** December 10, 2006, 09:33:25 pm »

I think a gold plated toilet seat is a better investment than a substantial computer upgrade to play legacy (after looking at the shiplist),

Because my arse is worth it (even tho both boxes end up being full of sh**).

Lepton · « **Reply #68 on:** December 11, 2006, 12:24:22 am »

Ships will be added. That's not really a compelling reason not to get the game. Be that as it may, despite the crappy mulitplayer, there are probably more people playing Legacy online than playing SFC online and certainly more than on the dyna. I'd have no problem putting SFC back on, but at this point we need a server and some sort of resurgence in interest.

Julin Eurthyr · « **Reply #69 on:** December 11, 2006, 08:23:12 am »

A read of the Legacy forums convinces me that Legacy for PC is definitely $19.99 rack material.

For $19.95, I know Bethesda / Mad Doc claims their share as pure profit. Smart companies reinvest that profit into R&D, using it to develop the next (better) version of Trek.

For $49.95, I know they're dishing most of the take to "pay back" the investment they shelled out on the game they just made.

I'll support Trek gaming. I'll pay a company $20, hoping that their profit is reinvested into R&D. I won't pay them $50, allowing them to claim that their game is a success, when enough opinion cites that a "failed" game like SFC III (look at the "official" support it received) is better than the recently produced stuff.

[ISC]Phaser · « **Reply #70 on:** December 11, 2006, 08:27:22 am »

For me the most compelling reason why i uninstalled legacy is because anyway you look at it its armada plain and simple in a new dress,i'll admit that it looks fantastic but eye candy doesn't make a good game.OP as old as it is is still by far a better tactical game hands down,and like SFC3 the newness will wear off, for me it wore off in just a few hours,hopefully StarTrek Online will get it right and if not OP will still be here.

KBF MalaK · « **Reply #71 on:** December 11, 2006, 09:09:38 am »

Quote from: [ISC]Phaser on December 11, 2006, 08:27:22 am

For me the most compelling reason why i uninstalled legacy is because anyway you look at it its armada plain and simple in a new dress,i'll admit that it looks fantastic but eye candy doesn't make a good game.OP as old as it is is still by far a better tactical game hands down,and like SFC3 the newness will wear off, for me it wore off in just a few hours,hopefully StarTrek Online will get it right and if not OP will still be here.

Didn't care much for Armada which is enough reason to wait out the rush to buy Legacy (for me anyhow).

"fire in the bowl"= +1 karma for you Phaser.

Alphageek · « **Reply #72 on:** December 11, 2006, 12:41:53 pm »

Right on to the "fire in the bowl"!

CaptJosh · « **Reply #73 on:** January 04, 2007, 06:47:40 pm »

Armada redressed? Are you nuts? Armada was fleet actions heavy defenses, mine resources, build up, research, build up more, try to steamroller the enemy, or try to peck away at their defenses until they crumble. Despide the 3D playing field of Armada 2, this dynamic never changed. Legacy is NOTHING like that.

From what I've seen in the demos, it has true 3D maneuvering, what appears to be mostly single combat with ships, 3D weapon arcs, power consumption and allocation worries... It is NOTHING like Armada.

FCM_SFHQ_XC · « **Reply #74 on:** January 05, 2007, 04:47:11 am »

Quote from: CaptJosh on January 04, 2007, 06:47:40 pm

Armada redressed? Are you nuts? Armada was fleet actions heavy defenses, mine resources, build up, research, build up more, try to steamroller the enemy, or try to peck away at their defenses until they crumble. Despide the 3D playing field of Armada 2, this dynamic never changed. Legacy is NOTHING like that.

From what I've seen in the demos, it has true 3D maneuvering, what appears to be mostly single combat with ships, 3D weapon arcs, power consumption and allocation worries... It is NOTHING like Armada.

agreed.. it reminds me more of ST Dominion Wars then Armada

FPF-AJTK · « **Reply #75 on:** January 14, 2007, 09:59:23 pm »

I bought the XBox 360 version, its pretty good. It sure as hell aint SFC, but if there had never been an SFC, Id have to rate this as a good/great Trek game. Graphics rock, sound/music both rock, its fun to play. There is no split screen multiplayer, which sucks total ass. You have to play on xblive for multiplayer or buy another 360 for system link. Stupid. Regardless, its fun to play.

On a side note, I got ST:Tactical Assault on the PSP. I love it. 6 shields. Weapon arcs. Keep getting the sh*t kicked outa me, but its fun as hell.

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