Topic: BSG (Read 5199 times)

Skaren · « **on:** October 06, 2006, 10:06:17 pm »

I will keep this post neutral even though it may be political order to keep it up and provoke thought.

Mostly Sci Fi is a place and time to escape away from our troubles. Much of our gaming is just that.

Tonight Battle Star Galactica,... I must say that it provoked much thought for me, about our current world and political situation.

I cannot help but give credit to show that rather than gives us escape, causes each of us to think a bit more about what is going on in our world today.

I hope this thread and that show will get many reads, as we all sit very comfortably in our command chairs typing away while others live and die in lives very different than ours.

FSD_Skaren

Bartok · « **Reply #1 on:** October 06, 2006, 10:44:54 pm »

Here Here -

IMHO it's the best drama on TV hands down! That it provokes thought(fulness) rather than just escape is the hallmark of any good novel or drama.... it stirs a lot of questions to be sure....

Let's bring our people home now!

TheJudge · « **Reply #2 on:** October 07, 2006, 12:24:47 am »

Without going political...I loved tonight's episode.

One thing I loved the most about it...it let the viewers decide what was right or wrong. It didn't preach that action X was evil or that it was good. Characters took BOTH sides of the argument each and every time, and ended without making a moral judgment as being the stance of the show. The original Star Trek did this, although it was prone to taking a more liberal stance as the 'official' position of the show's characters. In BSG it gets down and gritty and viewers can decide.

heck, even in my house there was argument between my partner and I about different subjects brought up tonight (can you believe my ultra-liberal Democratic party employee of 14 years actually suggested Starbuck should kill the little girl? I was even horrified at that...perspective.)

Skaren · « **Reply #3 on:** October 07, 2006, 08:02:53 am »

I agree the writters really put both sides on the table, it was hard to see "The Good Guys" strapping on suicide belts and being portrayed as Insurgents. Made me think alot about our world situation and what drives people to such desperate measures.

It also caused a discussion in my home too.

Excellent series indeed.

Capt_Bearslayer_XC · « **Reply #4 on:** October 07, 2006, 10:49:13 am »

Oh yeah, loving this thing!!!!!

What surprised me was the amount of freakin' commercials last night.....

Just DL'd it... it is only 44 minutes long... but it was a two hour premiere?

Scratch that... 2 episodes... not one.

KBF-Crim · « **Reply #5 on:** October 07, 2006, 11:59:11 am »

I cannot comment on the clear political overtones of the show without being political in retort...

Thought provoking....not in the least...

Bile provoking?...yes...quite...

Hexx · « **Reply #6 on:** October 07, 2006, 02:27:32 pm »

Quote from: Capt_Bearslayer_XC on October 07, 2006, 10:49:13 am

Oh yeah, loving this thing!!!!!

What surprised me was the amount of freakin' commercials last night.....

Just DL'd it... it is only 44 minutes long... but it was a two hour premiere?

Scratch that... 2 episodes... not one.

LOL DLd it- whoever posted it left the frackin commercial in

el-Karnak · « **Reply #7 on:** October 07, 2006, 09:17:11 pm »

The scary part about the show is that most of show's darker events are based on factual history, both past and present.

“Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it”
--George Santayana

Dizzy · « **Reply #8 on:** October 08, 2006, 01:21:35 am »

BSG is the best f*cking TV show ever. Period.

FPF-Tobin Dax · « **Reply #9 on:** October 08, 2006, 11:05:01 am »

Quote from: dizzy on October 08, 2006, 01:21:35 am

BSG is the best f*cking TV show ever. Period.

you can get away with using frak instead....

TheJudge · « **Reply #10 on:** October 08, 2006, 12:41:00 pm »

Dax, in the immortal words of the real Admiral Cain - "Frak you!"

(Sorry, every time I re-watch that episode, I just LOVE that moment when she said that.)

FYI, there's a Spoiler thread from the season now in the Holodeck section of the board.

FPF-Tobin Dax · « **Reply #11 on:** October 08, 2006, 01:26:28 pm »

to borrow from Josh a bit, it's frak, not frack.

TheJudge · « **Reply #12 on:** October 08, 2006, 02:07:49 pm »

Yep, you're right..

Icehawk · « **Reply #13 on:** October 08, 2006, 03:02:24 pm »

that wasnt the real admiral cain hehe but at least sure looked better in a uniform lol

Icehawk · « **Reply #14 on:** October 08, 2006, 03:03:13 pm »

oops i stand correct the real cain held the rank of commander

FPF-Tobin Dax · « **Reply #15 on:** October 08, 2006, 11:31:17 pm »

Real?

Hexx · « **Reply #16 on:** October 09, 2006, 12:34:16 am »

Not really worth arguing about.

Obviously another follower of "Everything was better when they had disco in space"

The new BSG rules.
Honestly I can watch BSG reruns and Firefly time after time.
Can't even bring myself to watch most of the Star Trek stuff anymore.

Dizzy · « **Reply #17 on:** October 09, 2006, 03:38:52 am »

Saw some of these at Walmart: http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/SearchResults.htm?CD=&NPG=12

Gonna buy me some raptors and vipers and raiders me thinks...

Riskyllama · « **Reply #18 on:** October 09, 2006, 05:38:03 am »

http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/ProductsByBrand.htm?BR=798
this link might work a little better diz

TheJudge · « **Reply #19 on:** October 09, 2006, 12:04:27 pm »

Ohhh, I'm going TOY shopping.

One thing though...did anyone notice the base of the raptor, Viper Mark VII, and Colonial One? It doesn't say Battlestar Galactica!

Capt_Bearslayer_XC · « **Reply #20 on:** October 09, 2006, 12:35:20 pm »

What you didn't see the Colonial One, the Raptor attack force, and Viper Interceptors in the last Star War movie?

Still, I want my Pegasus model too!!!

FCM_SFHQ_XC · « **Reply #21 on:** October 09, 2006, 03:28:26 pm »

ahh. finally some time to visit D.net again

.. school has been hitting me hard with HW .. needless to say I saw BSG and it was great! I definetly look forward to sitting at my TV every friday night and watching it

!!

Icehawk · « **Reply #22 on:** October 10, 2006, 11:02:19 am »

sorry tobin real as in original the real cain was man just like boomer and starbuck and their rank structure was differant in the original adama out ranked cain

Dracho · « **Reply #23 on:** October 10, 2006, 12:36:06 pm »

The New BSG and the Old BSG are like the difference between a John Wayne movie about D-Day, and a Stephen Spielberg movie about D-Day.

They both have their merits, but the decades between the shows do not allow for an apples-to-apples comparison. Even though it's a remake, the two shows are more like father and son, than brothers.

Dizzy · « **Reply #24 on:** October 10, 2006, 07:49:41 pm »

I prefer the regalia of TOS BSG to that of the unimaginative nazi style dress they have now.

FCM_SFHQ_XC · « **Reply #25 on:** October 10, 2006, 08:04:50 pm »

The uniforms are OK... I could go either way with them, but this BSG uniform is more military style over the previous origional version, but I will say definetly I like the old BSG music better then this one..

Icehawk · « **Reply #26 on:** October 12, 2006, 08:23:10 am »

hey this is is off topic but i was wondering why my karma is 5 with only 50 posts to my name i didnt think i pissed off people that bad for behavior which i think i try to be fair and act well with everybody or does having 9th fleet in my name put target on my head i have been around a bit and getalong mostly well with everybody even my opponents so whats up mabey iam just nuts

Dizzy · « **Reply #27 on:** October 12, 2006, 09:35:02 am »

Dont feel bad, lol, I've lost 17 karma in 2 days, heh.

TheJudge · « **Reply #28 on:** October 12, 2006, 12:31:06 pm »

Speaking of Karma...how the hell do I have POSITIVE 124?!?!?!?!

Last I saw I was in the negative...oh yeah...quit H & S.

GDA-S'Cipio · « **Reply #29 on:** October 12, 2006, 12:52:05 pm »

Quote from: Icehawk on October 12, 2006, 08:23:10 am

hey this is is off topic but i was wondering why my karma is 5 with only 50 posts to my name i didnt think i pissed off people that bad for behavior which i think i try to be fair and act well with everybody or does having 9th fleet in my name put target on my head i have been around a bit and getalong mostly well with everybody even my opponents so whats up mabey iam just nuts

Your account starts with zero karma. For you to have 5 points, that means there were five times when someone decided that what you said (or how you said it) deserved praise.

I'd say 5 praises for only 50 posts is pretty good. (Unless you know you used to have a much bigger total at one time, and it has all vanished?)

-S'Cipio

GDA-S'Cipio · « **Reply #30 on:** October 12, 2006, 01:14:04 pm »

Quote from: Dracho on October 10, 2006, 12:36:06 pm

The New BSG and the Old BSG are like the difference between a John Wayne movie about D-Day, and a Stephen Spielberg movie about D-Day.

They both have their merits, but the decades between the shows do not allow for an apples-to-apples comparison. Even though it's a remake, the two shows are more like father and son, than brothers.

The new show is better, but I should clarify:

I thought the old concept was better than the new concept.
I thought the old mythos was better than the new mythos.
I thought the old three-hour pilot episode was better than the new four-hour pilot
Likewise, the first episode of the new regular series was pretty (frak'in) weak.

That's the setup of the show. The execution this time around is worlds better.

There is no denying that the new show has grown into something much, much stronger than the original. Part of this is the fact that there is some good talent (Moore) in charge of this show taking good care of its growth. Part of it is that there are better scripts and a better stable of actors.

I think the biggest part, however, is that the show is now its own entity rather than a remake. (With the exception of retreading the Pegasus story) I think there are some very talented people involved with this production, and they operate much better when they are free to compeltely do their own thing rather than trying to decide how to adapt/revamp something that has been done before. Their own thing, as we've seen for over two years now, is very very good. This is even true with the Pegasus episodes: the best part of that story was the conflict over the "rape" of a Cylon, not the revamped, darker butting of heads between Adama and Cain.

(This could be a good lesson for all TV and movie execs: Grant more freedom for your people to do original work please, and stop trying to force them to redo what worked last year.)

By the way, did anyone else catch the use of the original BSG music when the reporter broadcast to the fleet her special on "Life aboard Galactica"? I thought that was nicely done.

-S'Cipio

Capt_Bearslayer_XC · « **Reply #31 on:** October 12, 2006, 01:56:24 pm »

Quote from: GDA-S'Cipio on October 12, 2006, 01:14:04 pm

By the way, did anyone else catch the use of the original BSG music when the reporter broadcast to the fleet her special on "Life aboard Galactica"? I thought that was nicely done.

Actually, I think the old theme for the show is sort of the national anthem for the Colonies this time around.

It has been used twice that I can recall, but I think the other time was the funeral for the dead during the mini-series.

FCM_SFHQ_XC · « **Reply #32 on:** October 12, 2006, 02:01:15 pm »

Quote from: GDA-S'Cipio on October 12, 2006, 01:14:04 pm

By the way, did anyone else catch the use of the original BSG music when the reporter broadcast to the fleet her special on "Life aboard Galactica"? I thought that was nicely done.

Yea I did notice that when I saw it.. nicely done indeed

.. I dont remember it during the mini-series though.. It could be just because it was a while ago last time I saw the mini-series *sigh*

Bartok · « **Reply #33 on:** October 12, 2006, 02:12:51 pm »

Did the band play it at the "supposed" decomissioning of Galactica in the pilot?? -- think maybe it was there, need to check the dvd

Hexx · « **Reply #34 on:** October 12, 2006, 03:30:27 pm »

Yeah it was played during the fly by during the first episode. Then done with teh whistling guy during Final Cut .
Thought I remember it being used one more time, but can't remember when.

Icehawk · « **Reply #35 on:** October 12, 2006, 05:13:53 pm »

it was used that i remember on the documentary the at that time unknown cylon agent was making in the episode final cut

Icehawk · « **Reply #36 on:** October 12, 2006, 05:16:19 pm »

oh and btw scipio thanks about the explaination i dont usually follow the karma thing to close

TheJudge · « **Reply #37 on:** October 14, 2006, 11:38:27 am »

The original BSG theme I do believe is the National Anthem of the Colonies...which is why it's been used in many, many episodes to date.

Another great use of something from the original series has been Tom Zarek. Damn but Richard Hatch has been delightful in that role, much better than he did as Apollo. What's really sad is they've offered similar type roles to all the original cast...nothing like their original roles, something that would help them grow as an actor as well as be instrumental to the show, but most have refused. Hell Dirk Benedict was offered the role of the Cylon God and turned it down for the Season one finale.

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