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Offline KAT Chuut-Ritt

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Challange/Request
« on: September 21, 2006, 03:27:02 am »
Just wondering if anyone would be interested in doing this kzin ship, or someting similar?  Would the copyright prevent it?  Wouldn't want any copyright issues.
















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Re: Challange/Request
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2006, 08:01:17 am »
Oooo, I like that design.


In response to your signature, you are right, it is not Islamofascism, it is indeed Muhammofascsim.

The fascism part remains accurate by this definition:

"A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism."

"Fascism." The American HeritageŽ Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition. Houghton Mifflin Company, 2004. 21 Sep. 2006. <Dictionary.com http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=Fascism>

The only difference is that it is under a centralized religion and belligerent religious zealously and racism.

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Re: Challange/Request
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2006, 09:36:00 am »
That is a beauty!!!!

I remember seeing that in an earlier post - would be AWESOME to see a .mod of it.  I'm not entirely sure about the copyright issues, but a .mod styled after it probably wouldn't be any infringement.  If the cgi were downloadable somehow and it was just converted to .mod format without any changes then there'd be issues for sure..... 

Either way - i like the look of this ship for Kzin/Mirak more than the "flattened shovel" look of the stock models....

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Re: Challange/Request
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2006, 02:31:37 pm »
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DETAILS

Created for a
planned story line
for Star Trek:
Enterprise, season
five. Sadly, Enterprise
was cancled and
season five never
came to be.


As taken from Glitchwerks site...interesting were they going to bring in Kzinti into the Paramount Universe?  I dont see anything else this could have been...

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KZINTI "DARK STALKER"


Duh...look more think less...lol


 

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Re: Challange/Request
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2006, 02:42:51 pm »
I dont see any copyright issues with doing a .mod for private use.

But I dont want to see just that ship I want to see a FLEET of them! Holy cow that would make a stellar fleet of KZin ships! WOW!

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Re: Challange/Request
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2006, 01:27:08 am »
Yep, Pre-Tos even...

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Re: Challange/Request
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2006, 05:55:10 pm »
Now that ship rocks. Lets get'er done ;D

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« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2006, 02:29:21 am »
Yep, Pre-Tos even...


Or just TOS...  ;D

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Re: Challange/Request
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2006, 09:46:11 am »
That would be very sweet to see in the game  ;D

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Re: Challange/Request
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2006, 05:38:37 am »
Glad you guys like this design, so who's up for the challenge?

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Re: Challange/Request
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2006, 08:48:51 am »
BUMP to shut up those chirping crickets  ;D

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Re: Challange/Request
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2006, 11:17:02 pm »
I am w/ my fleetmate, I too would like to see a whole fleet done in that style.




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Re: Challange/Request
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2007, 03:35:38 am »
Cmon guys... I'll even help with texture work. We just need a fleet of these. We can use common parts too, and common textures. Shouldnt be too hard.

There are 1318 Fed models on battleclinic and only 69 Mirak. Cmon, we need sum mirak!!! Let's geterdone!

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« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2007, 12:25:17 pm »
Well, I couldn't resist...please remember this is the 1st thing I've attempted to model in over a year, but here is a start to this fine ship...actually coming along pretty nicely. After I get the big, main parts done I'll start adding the details, make it look better and such. ::) C & C welcome.
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Re: Challange/Request
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2007, 12:28:09 pm »
Well, I couldn't resist...please remember this is the 1st thing I've attempted to model in over a year, but here is a start to this fine ship...actually coming along pretty nicely. After I get the big, main parts done I'll start adding the details, make it look better and such. ::) C & C welcome.

Looks to me like you are off to a good start. I commend you, sir, for taking up this challenge.

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« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2007, 02:57:45 pm »
He's not the only one ... ;)

I'm working on one too, but before I post any progress pics, I'm awaiting a return email from the designer to grant my request to model the ship and release it to the community.

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Re: Challange/Request
« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2007, 03:01:00 pm »
He's not the only one ... ;)

I, Mudd.

ooooh, really? for SFC? Nice! I can't wait to see the result of both yours and Sandmans efforts.

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Re: Challange/Request
« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2007, 03:13:22 pm »
He's not the only one ... ;)

I'm working on one too, but before I post any progress pics, I'm awaiting a return email from the designer to grant my request to model the ship and release it to the community.

I, Mudd.

1.  Let me know what you find out. 
2.  What class is this?  CA ?
3.  Your skills are no doubt more advanced than mine ....  If this is a CA or DN .. then I can do the next size down.  (That way I can get away with some what less precise detail ...  size .. etc).

The only catch is ..  someone will have to do BMP files for me ..  then I can texture.  (We can PM for details)

Your call.

Let me know.

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Re: Challange/Request
« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2007, 04:54:25 pm »
Well, Until it's finished, it doesn't really look like anyones design...I can always change it up if they don't want their work used...at this point I'm treating as a tool to re-learn how to model...alot of lines and details that I used to be able to do in a matter of hours I'm having to remember how to do...so if the fine ppl at Glitchwerks deny use, then it will never be released...but maybe a version that can be considered a totally different ship. ;)
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Re: Challange/Request
« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2007, 05:49:14 pm »
Sandy, we're definately on the same wavelength ... ;)

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Re: Challange/Request
« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2007, 05:49:28 pm »
Well, Until it's finished, it doesn't really look like anyones design...I can always change it up if they don't want their work used...at this point I'm treating as a tool to re-learn how to model...alot of lines and details that I used to be able to do in a matter of hours I'm having to remember how to do...so if the fine ppl at Glitchwerks deny use, then it will never be released...but maybe a version that can be considered a totally different ship. ;)

Glitchwerks cant copyright a copyrighted mirak anyway. Model away!

EDIT: And if you want to get technical, his copyright extends so far as that picture. Any resemblance to it in a 3d model is merely suspect. Change the bridge windows and the emblem. ;)

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Re: Challange/Request
« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2007, 05:59:31 pm »
Way ahead of ya Dizzy ... I've always changed a few things here and there with my models, and this one is no exception, but it is shaping up very close to the design.

IF we hit a wall, it can be changed enough to not violate the 13 points of copyright law ... besides that ... As I mentioned to you before, Larry Niven might have something to say about anyone copyrighting anything Kzinti ... or for that matter, ADB might have an issue when it comes to starship visuals, which is no problem here within the confines of free modeling for SFC. Either way, I see this model making it into the game with slight variation at most.

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Re: Challange/Request
« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2007, 06:38:25 pm »
 ;D

SENSE OF HUMOR ALERT:

Regarding the ORIGINAL, what I think is supposed to be a pre-TOS, design...

It doesnt look like a Kzinti-Miralk design to me. It looks more like a flying lobster to me...

I'm sure Sandman and I, Mudd will come up with something really cool to play with.

How about a high poly version of the Mirak ship seen in the SFC: EAW game box cover and the SFC: EAW intro movie?

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Re: Challange/Request
« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2007, 06:54:43 pm »
Looks nice. Did a LAN Campaign here set during the 1st Kzinti - Federation war in the 2180's. Daedalus, Moskva and  Magelan cruisers, Tiger and Eris frigates, Warrior and Crusader BB and DN. Small, clumsey,  limited ships for players to operate. Ex- Warbird jockeys didn't notice th difference.

Makes a change from the usual SFB "Salamander" appearance of the stock fleet. I downloaded a whole whole Kzinti fleet modelled exactly on the original SKYTREX 1980's models..

Why stop at just this one CA starship?? A whole family of ships could be created from dirivatives of this design.

Anyone have any ideas for  an frigate, (Kzintis don't seriously go into destroyers!!), light cruisers, cruisers,dreadnaughts, batleships, freighters and auxilaries.
The Klingons have many ways to fry a cat. I prefer to use an L7 Fast Battlecruiser!!

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Re: Challange/Request
« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2007, 12:32:57 am »
KF, the gem of this model design isa that its unique and never before been done. I'm so tired of the taldren and spinoffs I've seen at battle clinic. We have over a thousand fed models and under 100 for mirak. This design I think may make a whole fleet... If me and chuut are crazy about it, i think it will fly. And yeah, it does look like a lobster! I love it!