Topic: TOS Frigate for Modeling consideration (Read 4923 times)

Bernard Guignard · « **on:** September 16, 2006, 08:16:05 am »

Neale Davidson AKA Vanguard has done a nice variation of the McKenzie class Frigate from Fasa that would work nicely in the game
here's his schematic:

using Atras Burke Class or Desty Novas this could be bashed quite easily I think. I hope that there are some takers.

Mackie · « **Reply #1 on:** September 16, 2006, 09:57:24 am »

damn tahts a good one, i'll propably try to bash something to the effect sooner or more likely later :>

Dizzy · « **Reply #2 on:** September 16, 2006, 11:54:54 am »

I'm not crazy about the box like aft hull, but it's cool enough. I'd D/L it.

Bernard Guignard · « **Reply #3 on:** September 17, 2006, 07:18:58 am »

My opinion when you look at it you see a tos version of the Okninawa class

ModelsPlease · « **Reply #4 on:** September 17, 2006, 08:58:27 am »

Ya might check this site ..........

http://sfc.strategyplanet.gamespy.com/omega/fleetdock13/

there are several model packs that may contain this ship, don't forget to check the packs in their archives as well.

Anduril · « **Reply #5 on:** September 17, 2006, 02:19:35 pm »

I don't think we ever made this one at the Fleetdock.

This is the first I've seen this particular ship.

Bernard Guignard · « **Reply #6 on:** September 19, 2006, 06:51:16 pm »

Anduril
Nice to get a message from you it's been a long time

I hope that you've been well.

Rod ONeal · « **Reply #7 on:** September 20, 2006, 05:47:13 pm »

I figured that I'd give it a go. Almost ready for texturing, I think. I rounded the back of the rear deck a bit to blend it with the shape of the lower hull. I can square it off if you think the author would prefer as little deviation as possible from the original schematic. Anything else, let me know. Poly count is at 3764. I'd like to keep it under 4k, if possible.

Bernard Guignard · « **Reply #8 on:** September 20, 2006, 06:10:27 pm »

Wow Rod that's pretty nice work there

keep up the great work.
I'll pass by by neale.

ModelsPlease · « **Reply #9 on:** September 21, 2006, 12:32:41 am »

NIce work Rod !!!!!!!!! Any more of them ships coming my way for finishing yet ?

Rod ONeal · « **Reply #10 on:** September 21, 2006, 01:22:20 am »

I'm working on the Apollo now. I'm not sure why textures are done the way that they are in KA, but there's over 130 materials for the one model and there's standard and damage textures assigned to the same model (and polygons). I assume that KA can differentiate between them, somehow. The .mod (or 3ds) doesn't support that though. I'm still working on it. Sorry it's taking a while. I'm learning as I go.

ModelsPlease · « **Reply #11 on:** September 21, 2006, 02:21:25 am »

Quote from: Rod ONeal on September 21, 2006, 01:22:20 am

I'm working on the Apollo now. I'm not sure why textures are done the way that they are in KA, but there's over 130 materials for the one model and there's standard and damage textures assigned to the same model (and polygons). I assume that KA can differentiate between them, somehow. The .mod (or 3ds) doesn't support that though. I'm still working on it. Sorry it's taking a while. I'm learning as I go.

No problemo my friend

Wicked Zombie · « **Reply #12 on:** September 21, 2006, 11:07:18 am »

Quote from: Rod ONeal on September 21, 2006, 01:22:20 am

I'm working on the Apollo now. I'm not sure why textures are done the way that they are in KA, but there's over 130 materials for the one model and there's standard and damage textures assigned to the same model (and polygons). I assume that KA can differentiate between them, somehow. The .mod (or 3ds) doesn't support that though. I'm still working on it. Sorry it's taking a while. I'm learning as I go.

It's due to the Lightwave format that KA is using. The older version of Lightwave doesn't support "combined" mapping, at least not where the KA models are concerned. That's why every part or subsection has a separate texture.

The game also reads the damage model as underneath the main model so that whenever a section of the ship is hit, part of the main can be blasted away to show the insides. That requires both the damage and the main to be combined but it's obviously a gripe when converting the ship to another format. If possible, you might try contacting the original author to see if they have a copy of the ship minus the damage.

Khalee1 · « **Reply #13 on:** September 21, 2006, 03:00:54 pm »

Looks good Rod but how about a back shot and bottom too As I'm just having a hard time Reconciling that front shot with the side and top.

Dizzy · « **Reply #14 on:** September 21, 2006, 03:48:31 pm »

Ya, lets see the ass shot. I'm liking it so far.

Bernard Guignard · « **Reply #15 on:** September 21, 2006, 06:32:11 pm »

Hi Rod:

this was PMed to me from the designer of the schematic

"From: Vance

Pretty nice job of it so far. Looks better than I thought it would. My original idea had the aft taper flat and down, until it matches the 'Detroyat' style underside.

But, they're free to do what they like of course."

E_Look · « **Reply #16 on:** September 21, 2006, 10:49:24 pm »

Hey, I wonder if this TOS frigate could be modeled as you have shown it here... MINUS the dish.

ModelsPlease · « **Reply #17 on:** September 22, 2006, 02:08:11 am »

Quote from: E_Look NCC-9091 on September 21, 2006, 10:49:24 pm

Hey, I wonder if this TOS frigate could be modeled as you have shown it here... MINUS the dish.

MINUS the dish isn't TOS it's TMP

Magnum357 · « **Reply #18 on:** September 22, 2006, 04:32:45 am »

That is an outstanding Fed Design, espeically for TOS era ships. I hope nobody minds, but I copied down the schematic to help me design another model project I will eventually get to. I don't want to copy the the design completly, but it has some design features I really like.

Bernard Guignard · « **Reply #19 on:** September 23, 2006, 09:59:43 am »

Well Guys
Vances Design is Based on the FASA McKenzie class Which used a Std Constituion class Saucer As Show in this version that I drew
with STD Warp engines

This Fasa Version had different warp engine and Defletor styling

Dizzy · « **Reply #20 on:** September 23, 2006, 02:13:57 pm »

That looks like a fat grandma of a ship. I like the 1st pic.

Bernard Guignard · « **Reply #21 on:** September 23, 2006, 03:37:37 pm »

if My memory serves me right its the typical fasa Bash and Hash, the specifications with regards to Length width and height
don't match what the ship drawing is trying to convey. Vance's design better conveys the idea. I prefer to think of the larger
version as a Heavy Carrier

and yes she is a fat ship

Rod ONeal · « **Reply #22 on:** October 03, 2006, 06:23:56 pm »

Finished. Sorry that I guessed wrong on the back end. It matches with the posted pics pretty well though, I think. Credit to "The Stress Puppy" and "Desty Nova". I used their models as reference for the emblems, decals, etc. for the textures.

LINK http://www.battleclinic.com/docks/dock.php?id=3987

Atolm-Rising · « **Reply #23 on:** October 03, 2006, 07:43:02 pm »

Quote from: Rod ONeal on October 03, 2006, 06:23:56 pm

Finished. Sorry that I guessed wrong on the back end. It matches with the posted pics pretty well though, I think. Credit to "The Stress Puppy" and "Desty Nova". I used their models as reference for the emblems, decals, etc. for the textures.

LINK http://www.battleclinic.com/docks/dock.php?id=3987

That's beautiful

Rhaz · « **Reply #24 on:** October 03, 2006, 08:55:40 pm »

Well done!! I like how you angled the aft as opposed to a straight box.

ModelsPlease · « **Reply #25 on:** October 03, 2006, 11:08:56 pm »

Absolutely smokin' Rod !!!!!!!!!!

Tus-XC · « **Reply #26 on:** October 04, 2006, 12:34:39 am »

i like the work rod, my only crit are the bussards, they aren't suppsoed to have hard lines. Here is one i made for the garth as an example of what i mean, heck you are even free to use them if you want.

outsdie of that, that is some outstandin work there

Starforce2 · « **Reply #27 on:** October 04, 2006, 03:50:22 am »

you should try those bussard spears.

Bernard Guignard · « **Reply #28 on:** October 04, 2006, 06:34:51 pm »

Great work Rod

You did a fantastic job on her

Rod ONeal · « **Reply #29 on:** October 05, 2006, 02:23:59 am »

Quote from: Bernard Guignard on October 04, 2006, 06:34:51 pm

Great work Rod

You did a fantastic job on her

Thanks everyone for the positive comments and I'm glad you like her, Bernard. I wasn't trying for canon on the buzzards. I was trying for something a bit "more". With that said though, I'm redoing the buzzards, for all you Republicans here.

(Actually, you all are right... This time!

) I should have it ready in a couple hrs. or so, and I'll get her uploaded.

OK. I've updated the model with the new bussards. You can see the updated pics above. I also fixed some smoothing problems on the rear deck that was causing shadows on the deck with the .mod file.

Magnum357 · « **Reply #30 on:** October 11, 2006, 05:14:29 am »

Wow! Nice work. I like this ship better then a Connie! Just the overal Design seems to make more sense then a Connie in my opinion.

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