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Would you fly a line ship if exempted from disengagement rule/hex ban?

Yes, if CCs are included
Yes, eventhough CCs are not included
No, even if CCs are included

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Offline Lepton

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So here is the next poll.  Trying to assess the viability of this line ship proposal.

Tell me if you'd be likely to fly a line ship given these conditions:

1.  Line ships exempt from disengagement rule/hex ban when opposed by any player in a non-line ship.
2.  Line ships subject to disengagement rule/hex ban when all opposing players are in line ships
3.  All non-line ships subject to the disengagement rule/hex ban

This proposal gives line ships a special strategic and tactical role in that they can operate with impunity unless faced up other line ships.  The above conditions will actually require players to get into line ships to drive opposing line ship players out of a hex.  I think this makes flying a line ship a viable alternative.

As for how to vote, please indicate the conditions under which you would be likely to fly a line ship.  If it is essential to you to be able to fly a CC as a line ship indicate Yes with CC's included. If you would fly a line ship even if the largest class available were a CA, indicate Yes with CC's out. If you would not fly a line ship under any of the conditions supplied here, indicate No.

Thanks.


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The designator should not be, some CCs should not be considered "line."  I would go with a BPV of 179, any CA/CC over 179 BPV should not count as a line ship regardless of iy'd class designation.

I picked 179 as this is one point below the BCHs
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I voted No because I love causing Hate, Heck, and Discontent in my little ity bitty DF ;D


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The designator should not be, some CCs should not be considered "line."  I would go with a BPV of 179, any CA/CC over 179 BPV should not count as a line ship regardless of iy'd class designation.

I picked 179 as this is one point below the BCHs

OK, let's consider that as part of the poll parameters.  CC's included means that there is a 179 bpv cap on line ships.  Change your vote accordingly if that changes your view, pretty please.  ;D


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You are not going to get an accurate vote from this.

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Define a better one and I will post it or you may.  Also you might define your reason for your belief rather than being cryptic.  Your remark doesn't help much.  Are you poo-pooing or contributing?  Make your choice.


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I just don't believe in these polls in general.

What are you trying to accomplish?

And stop being so negative.

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And stop being so negative.

 :huh:

You are not going to get an accurate vote from this.

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Was there a point in there Chuut, or was that just troll bait?

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I just don't believe in these polls in general.

What are you trying to accomplish?

And stop being so negative.

I'd suggest you are being negative.  Be that as it may, I actually know something about polling as I have a degree in psychology with an emphasis in social attitudes toward environmentalism.  That said, I am well aware that attitudes and opinions polled do not always translate into behavior.  Also people tend to have different response biases depending on certain personality characteristics.  Basically, some people are nice and will say yes to anything or respond in a way you might like them to.  That's an over-simplification but you get the idea.

My suggestion would be is that if there is support for what I have proposed someone might want to consider using it on a server.  So far the response to what I have been suggesting has been not overwhelming.  I am doing the poll in part to see if there is even the slightest level of basic support for such an idea.  If the response is favorable, I will continue to bring this idea up.  If not, I'll probably drop it.


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Re: Poll: Would you fly a line ship if exempted from disengagement rule/hex ban?
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2006, 12:37:30 am »
Was there a point in there Chuut, or was that just troll bait?


The point is you implied a negetive behavior of another forum member after making a negetive comment aabout his poll.  Wasn't trying to bait anyone, just hoping that you would take the hint and be more supportive.

I'm not commenting about this anymore after this post so any unintended "baiting" doesn't continue.

If you want to have an argument you will just have to pay the fee  like the rest.



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Re: Poll: Would you fly a line ship if exempted from disengagement rule/hex ban?
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2006, 01:05:19 am »
I'm  not being negative, just skeptical of polling on a game forum. A poll is only valuable if a large cross section of the population responds.

One only has to look at any given server signup thread and compare it to whom actually shows up to determine its value.

As to whether your idea has merit, the only valid test is combat.

P.S. My original comment was not directed at you Chuut, so why don't you give Lepton the credit of being able to answer for himself.

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Re: Poll: Would you fly a line ship if exempted from disengagement rule/hex ban?
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2006, 02:30:35 am »
Nearly 60 people signed up for SG6 and we saw most of them on the server at one time or another.  In the other poll thread I put up, 24 people have responded which is probably over half of the actual server population for SG6.  I'd call that a representative sample.  Further, if the SG series is one of the most attended series of servers than we can be assured that this server caught up most of the veteran players and new players as well, so that poll is likely to have a sample of veterans and irregulars and the SG6 population is likely to be representative if not nearly entirely inclusive of the people who actually attend servers any more.

Be that as it may, the results of this poll will be the results of this poll.  It's not earth shattering.  It's a poll.


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Re: Poll: Would you fly a line ship if exempted from disengagement rule/hex ban?
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2006, 09:49:13 am »
Have we finally defined what exactly a line ship actually is ??

I find it hard to vote on a topic when it's boundries are undefined.
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Re: Poll: Would you fly a line ship if exempted from disengagement rule/hex ban?
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2006, 10:55:42 am »
Have we finally defined what exactly a line ship actually is ??

I find it hard to vote on a topic when it's boundries are undefined.

Depends on who you ask...

Moi... I'd be content in a H-RN+ or a H-LC until the H-MHK or the H-RGR came out.

Unless, I have to escort someone which ends up making my ship selection a bit different....
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Re: Poll: Would you fly a line ship if exempted from disengagement rule/hex ban?
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2006, 11:01:11 am »
I think if you are in a fleet, all disenagament rules should apply regarless of who is in what.
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Re: Poll: Would you fly a line ship if exempted from disengagement rule/hex ban?
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2006, 02:54:07 pm »
I think if you are in a fleet, all disenagament rules should apply regarless of who is in what.

Agreed.
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Re: Poll: Would you fly a line ship if exempted from disengagement rule/hex ban?
« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2006, 04:17:26 pm »
Yep.

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Re: Poll: Would you fly a line ship if exempted from disengagement rule/hex ban?
« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2006, 04:20:33 pm »
Highly incorrect.  That would mean that the exemption would only ever apply in a 1v1 of line ships.  It guts the whole premise.


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Re: Poll: Would you fly a line ship if exempted from disengagement rule/hex ban?
« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2006, 04:22:36 pm »
How does that gut the premise? I can solo hex flip in a line ship all day long and never have to worry about getting chased.

If I have a DF drafting me, then what's the point of making it only line ships? There's no downside.