Topic: Leonard Nimoy hints at possible return in Star Trek XI

[Rat Boy]

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Well getting him out of Trek retirement's certainly a surprise.

[Sirgod]

When I first read you thread, I thought wow, Maybe some closure to the Reunification story (although the Novels rock), but after reading that, Well It would be good news indeed.

Stephen

[Dash Jones]

Well, if they have him AND Shatner in it, and it's done as a flashback, I will DEFINATELY want to go see this one.

[Centurus]

If they do it as a flashback, I wonder how they're gonna handle the fact that Kirk will look a decade older than he did on Veridian 3, unless they make up some short story of his rise from the dead, or Spock dies and they're in the afterlife.

Either way, this is definately good news. 

[EmeraldEdge]

Or, Shatner plays a Romulan clone who's been rotting away on Remus!  Yeah, that would be awesome!  And the clone takes over the whole romulan Empire, and is bent on the destruction of Kirk, except Kirk is dead, so he doesn't know what to do anymore, so decides he must first become Kirk by siezing the Enterprise from a Federation space museum, and then killing himself.  Wow, that would be incredible.

[Dracho]

Or, Shatner plays a Romulan clone who's been rotting away on Remus!  Yeah, that would be awesome!  And the clone takes over the whole romulan Empire, and is bent on the destruction of Kirk, except Kirk is dead, so he doesn't know what to do anymore, so decides he must first become Kirk by siezing the Enterprise from a Federation space museum, and then killing himself.  Wow, that would be incredible.

Actually, the real Kirk was a prisoner and their clone was killed before it could accomplish its goals.. or maybe its goal was the destruction of the Enterprise C.

[KBF MalaK]

Well, if they have him AND Shatner in it, and it's done as a flashback, I will DEFINATELY want to go see this one.

Shatner (Capt. Kirk) is DEAD !!!

[Nemesis]

Well, if they have him AND Shatner in it, and it's done as a flashback, I will DEFINATELY want to go see this one.

Shatner (Capt. Kirk) is DEAD !!!

Which is why Spock invents the Holodeck,

[EmeraldEdge]

Now, wait.  Didn't Picard use the Vulcan nerver pinch?  If so (which is incredibly lame) then all Kirk had to have done before he died was grab hold of that bald scalp of Picard's and say "Remember...".  Maybe it happened.

[Commander Maxillius]

Humans can't mind meld :p

But I do wonder how they're going to set up a flashback when Shatner got quite a bit bigger since Generations and Nimoy has pretty much stayed the same.  It's going to be a problem figuring out how long before the Enterprise-B they're going to do this.


Maybe they'll do a CGI Kirk and have Shatner just do the voice?

[J. Carney]

Maybe they'll do a CGI Kirk and have Shatner just do the voice?

If that's the case, they should just CGI the entire movie and have them both voice their characters.

If they do that

Now, wait.  Didn't Picard use the Vulcan nerver pinch?  If so (which is incredibly lame) then all Kirk had to have done before he died was grab hold of that bald scalp of Picard's and say "Remember...".  Maybe it happened.

DATA used the nerve pinch. He did it on Sela in Unification pt.II afterwatching Spock preform it once. Picard never did it, IIRC; MacCoy attempted it in STIII, but couldn't get it right.

[Centurus]

Not sure, but I think the reason that Data was able to do the nerve pinch was because of his bodily strength.  I believe there's a certain amount of pressure you have to apply for the pinch to be successful, that's why to date only Vulcans have done it, with the exception of Capt. Archer.

I still think they should do an afterlife theme, both Kirk and Spock are now dead, and reliving either how they met, or a mission from their first 5-year mission that just comes back to them.  *shrugs*

[EmeraldEdge]

Ah, it was Data.  But wait... Archer did it?  See, it should be a vulcan only thing, imo.  Otherwise you take away it's uniqueness.  Sure it might seem cool "Oh, awesome.  The captain just did the nerve pinch!" for the fanboys but it diminishes it, in my opinion.  If a human can do the nerve pinch, then why not let them mind meld too?  Didn't TMP show that some humans have telepathic abilities?  I always figured the nerve pinch was tied to a vulcans hands.  That there was some kind of electric impulse they could channel through their nerve endings to assist in disabling the target.  A similar system of broadcast and reception would be used for the mind meld, given that they all use their hands to perform it.  Sure, I know, it's a visual thing for the camera, but that would explain it.  Humans not having these particular receptors (at least in their hands) would be biologically unable to perform in the same manner.  I always figured that was why McCoy wasn't able to do the pinch when he had Spock in his brain  (Hey, wait a minute. Spock.. brain...  Aren't you glad they didn't just go to Genesis and pick up spocks body and use a remote control to make him walk back to McCoy? ).

[Dash Jones]

Not sure, but I think the reason that Data was able to do the nerve pinch was because of his bodily strength. I believe there's a certain amount of pressure you have to apply for the pinch to be successful, that's why to date only Vulcans have done it, with the exception of Capt. Archer.

I still think they should do an afterlife theme, both Kirk and Spock are now dead, and reliving either how they met, or a mission from their first 5-year mission that just comes back to them. *shrugs*

Hmm, humorous thought.  In that event maybe Data didn't really do it...but crushed they guy's collarbone and the guy fainted from pain instead.

[J. Carney]

Hmm, humorous thought.  In that event maybe Data didn't really do it...but crushed they guy's collarbone and the guy fainted from pain instead.

Nah, Data did it. First off, he did it because the script says so.

Second, Spock recognizes not only the apperance of the fact, but the EFFECTS of the properly administered pinch.

[Centurus]

Data is very observant and would have known, by observation, where the precise nerves would have been in order to perform the nerve pinch.  And the reason why Archer was able to do the nerve pinch was because he was suffering from the mind meld that Syran (SP?) had performed on him before he died, to insert Surak's katra into Archer, so Archer was reacting to Surak's knowledge, and probably that knowledge is what allowed Archer to effectively use the nerve pinch.  But this is all just argumentative.

I know in real life, if a person has enough knowledge about the nerve points of the body, such as an acupuncturist, they could effectively perform a nerve pinch, but mainly to paralyze someone for the duration that contact was maintained, because enough pressure would need to be applied in order for the victim to pass out.

[Dracho]

Anyone ever wonder where Vulcans obtained anatomical detail on humans that was that precise?  And where they practiced their little... grip in order to perfect it?

Pacifists my arse.  We've been had!

[J. Carney]

Anyone ever wonder where Vulcans obtained anatomical detail on humans that was that precise?

The Grays sold it to them.

[EmeraldEdge]

Notice it doesn't just work on Humans.  Pinch any old species on the neck in that spot, and apparently it works.

[Dracho]

I think Vulcans have some sort of Borg implant in their fingers that allows them to do that.. er.. hey.. wait.. what if Vulcans are really Romulan biologically correct Androids, and the whole thing is a sham...No species could be THAT logical..