Topic: Very stupid question.. (Read 2104 times)

Hexx · « **on:** August 21, 2006, 03:38:18 pm »

Yeah
drone damage is 24 and 12 modified for ecm right?

Bonk · « **Reply #1 on:** August 21, 2006, 03:50:38 pm »

In SFC, type I drones do 12 points of damage, type IV drones do 24 points of damage and MIRVS do 2 points per warhead. All are unaffected by ECM.

KAT Chuut-Ritt · « **Reply #2 on:** August 23, 2006, 05:22:50 am »

Actually Bonk that is incorrect. Every point of ECM will decrease each drones damage by 2 points. So if your running with 6 ECM you will be immune to damage from light drones and only take 1/2 the normal damage from heavy drones. I would have thought an experienced Lyran pilot, like Hexx, who is used to facing the Kzin would know that trick. Anyhow Hexx you know it now and I'm sure you will find it very useful in combat.

--KAT Chuut-Ritt
always willing to help instruct the itty bitty kitties

<Snicker>

Mog · « **Reply #3 on:** August 23, 2006, 08:42:58 am »

I thought there was a damage reduction chart for seeking weapons from ECM, else why would plasma torps have inbuilt 3 ECCM?

KAT Chuut-Ritt · « **Reply #4 on:** August 23, 2006, 09:15:12 am »

Quote from: Mog on August 23, 2006, 08:42:58 am

I thought there was a damage reduction chart for seeking weapons from ECM, else why would plasma torps have inbuilt 3 ECCM?

Hmmm.....

Wasn't that used when determining if a plasma torpedo lost lock on to a cloaked ship in SFB?

Dizzy · « **Reply #5 on:** August 23, 2006, 09:19:25 am »

ECM does not reduce warhead damage as illustrated.

KAT Chuut-Ritt · « **Reply #6 on:** August 23, 2006, 09:28:11 am »

Something interesting I found ....

Annotated Release Notes
Orion Pirates 2.5.2.5: Changes since 2.5.0.1i

http://www.khoromag.org/taldren/annotated-release-notes-2525.html

<snip>

Electronic Warfare
ECM now affects seeking weapons properly
The code was rewritten to use the SFB damage modifier table which is a 1d6 die roll with EW effects. Previously due to a code bug this did not work correctly and usually was ignored.

This suggests that there might be some effect, or at least was in the past.

762_XC · « **Reply #7 on:** August 23, 2006, 09:42:22 am »

I believe that change is in effect. I have noticed drones doing less than full damage in a nebula, even when fired at minimum range.

KAT Chuut-Ritt · « **Reply #8 on:** August 23, 2006, 09:57:46 am »

Here is something else I found:

http://www2.hawaii.edu/~craiga/kktacman.html

<snip>

ECM Shift (Seeking Weapons)

Electronic Warfare affects seeking weapons (i.e. drones, plasma torpedoes, and suicide shuttles) through a possible reduction to the damage caused by the weapon. It can be assumed that the ECM shift caused the seeking weapon to detonate some distance from the ship, rather than achieving direct contact with the ship. The ECM shift is calculated in the same manner as direct-fire weapons, and then the equivalent of a six side die roll is made within the software to determine if the shift has affected the seeking weapon.

Die Roll
Effect on Seeking Weapon

1-6 100% Warhead

7-8 50% Warhead

9-10 25% Warhead

As can be seen from the tables above, and an examination of the Weapon Damage Tables provided on the Ship List foldout included with your game, ECM has less of an effect (statistically) on the damage caused by a seeking weapon than it does direct-fire weapons. In most cases, an ECM shift is unlikely to have any effect at all on a seeking weapon. With an ECM shift of 1, for example, only a result of "7" (6, plus 1 for the shift) would result in a reduction of damage. If that reduction occurs it is a 50% reduction in warhead strength, which is a significant penalty. Plasma torpedoes have 3 built-in points of ECCM to combat the effects of ECM.

Hexx · « **Reply #9 on:** August 23, 2006, 10:02:49 am »

It's funny, I wondered for about a week if I dared post such a question.
Turns out no one else knew the answer either.

Really I must simply realize that I'm smrter than the lot of you and not worry.

KAT Chuut-Ritt · « **Reply #10 on:** August 23, 2006, 10:08:08 am »

Quote from: Hexx on August 23, 2006, 10:02:49 am

It's funny, I wondered for about a week if I dared post such a question.
Turns out no one else knew the answer either.

Really I must simply realize that I'm smrter than the lot of you and not worry.

Well here is the simple answer for you Hexx....

Any damage reduction is not a factor as you will be absorbing enough damge to destroy your ship regardless. Its just a matter of how many individual pieces your hull will be broken into.

hope that helps

Mog · « **Reply #11 on:** August 23, 2006, 11:43:12 am »

Quote from: Hexx on August 23, 2006, 10:02:49 am

It's funny, I wondered for about a week if I dared post such a question.
Turns out no one else knew the answer either.

Really I must simply realize that I'm smrter than the lot of you and not worry.

See my post up above.

As for "smrter", is that a SHORTENED version of smarter, perhaps?

Hexx · « **Reply #12 on:** August 23, 2006, 12:54:19 pm »

Quote from: Mog on August 23, 2006, 11:43:12 am

Quote from: Hexx on August 23, 2006, 10:02:49 am
It's funny, I wondered for about a week if I dared post such a question.
Turns out no one else knew the answer either.

Really I must simply realize that I'm smrter than the lot of you and not worry.

See my post up above.

As for "smrter", is that a SHORTENED version of smarter, perhaps?

Please old man,

<edit:damn remote link rules!!!!!!!!!!>

I was paying homage to Homer..

Bonk · « **Reply #13 on:** August 24, 2006, 10:56:18 am »

I seem to recall from SFB that ECM had virtually no effect on drones. Though that was a long time ago... (I do recall an ECM drone that could lend ECM to a designated target...)

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