Topic: New Poll: Would a "serious" no-Cheese server fly?

[FPF-DieHard]

We've done these servers in the past but never with serious victory conditions and planning.   My "War Cruiser Hell" server never really saw more that a dozen people on at a time.

KCW had a great turnout for the first weekend and that server had no cheese.  The population dwindled as the serer had no technology advancement and I think people got bored of 3v3 D7W brawls.

Question is would people fly on a server with no droners, no CARRIERS, not PFs, no Dread, No BBs, no Fast Cruisers,  . . . if it has serious VCs, RMs, and all that stuff.

Can this fly if there is still some technological development (CC becomes CCH, CW because NCA, etc . . .)?

Personally, I like both.  2265 Command cruiser duels are my favorite thing in this game but I know I'd get bored to tears if I ever had to fly the same ship for 3 weeks. 

A little cheese adds flavor but too much gets dilutes the racial flavor that makes this game wonderful.  The recent popularity of Fast cruisers (I'm guilty of this myself)  show my point as it's mostly what people fly and these ships were supposed ot be rare.   Previous attempts at controlling cheese through OOB was in retrospect a bad idea.  The accounting was a nightmare, players were greatly limited to what they could fly, and newer players felt bad if they lost rare ship.   I'd never want to go back to a system like that unless it was 100% fully automated and we aren't quite there yet with SQL development.

Let me know what you think

[Bonk]

What was that CW "vanilla" server? It worked well.

If you try this you should make some simple and clear definitions arbitrarily applied with no room for arguement or it will simply descend into a what is cheese and what is not (admin bias etc. etc...) flamefest and fast.

[Hexx]

Personally, I like both.  2265 Command cruiser duels are my favorite thing in this game

How odd you spend all your time in the Fed CS...

I think it would work,although I'm curious as to why "carriers" was singled out for big letters..
However, would we also be removing those "unique" or very limited production ships that really mess up the balance?
(And yes I'm looking at the Fed CS, although the Lyran JGP series is another I believe)

I would of course volunteer my services as an impartial jusge of what is cheese/ dairy free.

And there would (imho) have to be some conditions as to where races were able to be deployed.
Throwing Mirak & Hydran (for example) agains the Roms might cause some issues.

Also (I'd suggest) it be 2 weeks tops, there would be some advancement, but it would essentially be
D7C-D7L/D5L-D7W  vs CC- CCR/CLC- CB

Perhaps some conditions that if you did xx then one of Dizzy's Legendary cres becomes available.. of course that's just more cheese though

[KBF MalaK]

why not a 'lite' cheese server..i.e. no med or fast drones, no BB's, and only early to mid PF's ??

[Bonk]

No, no, no... lets go Space Truckin'! 

[Hexx]

why not a 'lite' cheese server..i.e. no med or fast drones, no BB's, and only early to mid PF's ??

Well the Kzin would stay home... which would be nice  , but PF's are late only, (well early late maybe)
and BB's (despite the rantings) are rare enough they don't really count (imho)

The issues (I think) are
-the huge number of fast cruisers
-the droneboats
-fighters (though I think he means the plasma fighters here)
-DNH's
-DNL's
- Maulers(??) maybe..
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[Hexx]

You know, I just realized

If we let Bonk,DH, and NW get together the next server is going to be a peacetime server
using freighters that have had all the cheese stripped off of them...

Somone make sure they never talk to each other..

[FPF-DieHard]

Personally, I like both.  2265 Command cruiser duels are my favorite thing in this game

How odd you spend all your time in the Fed CS...

I did not spend one second in a CS+ on SGO6.   Stop being a dick 

What were Dizzy and I flying when you went Poof?   

[Age]

  When I played on the servers I did play on I didn't like the fact the most flew the Heavy Iron 185+BPV being B-CHs and upwords.I would prefer a server where most would fly a CA or a CL.There is really no skill to flying a droner as well as heavy plasma boat.They don't require lots of skill considering the amounts of damage they do and yes PFs and fighters are something to be contented with.

[Hexx]

Personally, I like both.  2265 Command cruiser duels are my favorite thing in this game

How odd you spend all your time in the Fed CS...

I did not spend one second in a CS+ on SGO6.   Stop being a dick 

What were Dizzy and I flying when you went Poof?   

Well when you killed my DWLP I had thought it was a CS+
When Dizzy killed my DWLP it (I think) it was a CS+
When teh two of you killed me and TT it was your cheating ways.

Apolgies if you didn't , all those explosions tend to merge into one after a bit..

[FPF-DieHard]

The issues (I think) are
-the huge number of fast cruisers

This has gotten ridiculous, you kinda have no choice as this is what eveyone else is flying for PvP.  Some races however are SCREWED without them.   The Gorn don't have crap with flying before the BF comes out. 

-the droneboats

I'd say these are a reason for all the Fast Cruisers flown to beat on Droners

-fighters (though I think he means the plasma fighters here)

Plasma fighters give  Plasma races decent Hexx-munching ability, I don't think this is a bad thing.

-DNL's

DNLs are ridiculous with the current points system.  With OOB, it made sense not to build more than 1 of them as they could not be upgraded and would become long in the tooth.

That said, not all races have BCHs in 2268

-DNH's

DNHs come out in 2278 +, X-tech, BCHs, and all that stuff are out around this time.  look at the C10K over the C8K, the upgrade is more than warranted.

- Maulers(??) maybe..

The sun handles Maulers nicely

[FPF-DieHard]

Personally, I like both.  2265 Command cruiser duels are my favorite thing in this game

How odd you spend all your time in the Fed CS...

I did not spend one second in a CS+ on SGO6.   Stop being a dick 

What were Dizzy and I flying when you went Poof?   

Well when you killed my DWLP I had thought it was a CS+
When Dizzy killed my DWLP it (I think) it was a CS+
When teh two of you killed me and TT it was your cheating ways.

Apolgies if you didn't , all those explosions tend to merge into one after a bit..

Um, I didn't kill your CWLP this server.   I know I've killed you so many times that it is hard to keep track

[FPF-DieHard]

BACK ON TOPIC!!!!

All of the above mentioned stuff would qualify as "Cheese" in a no Cheese server

[FPF-DieHard]

56 views and 4 votes?  Are you kidding me?   Is this just 1 guys hitting "refresh" to see the latest Hexx Bashing?

[762_XC]

No. My name is t00l.

[el-Karnak]

No, no, no... lets go Space Truckin'! 

http://www.hornblasters.com/hbaud/HB4H-1h.mp3

 

[el-Karnak]

You know, I just realized

If we let Bonk,DH, and NW get together the next server is going to be a peacetime server
using freighters that have had all the cheese stripped off of them...

Somone make sure they never talk to each other..

I think where this going is a quest-based server. That would be a lot of fun, but a lot of mission scripting work. Might be worth it if you can ingrain a few characters from the community in the missions.

Quest-based servers are all the rage on many RPGs like SWG, WoW, and upcoming Age of Pirates RPG.

[Age]

  I just wanted to recant what I said about the skill it take to fly a ship that is a droner and a heavy plasma boat it is just that the BPV should match it.Then agian in the hands of a Veteran Pilot going agianst someone new and in a lower bpv is no match.It is unlike in GW when I am fighting a another Warrior.

[NuclearWessels]

You know, I just realized

If we let Bonk,DH, and NW get together the next server is going to be a peacetime server
using freighters that have had all the cheese stripped off of them...

Somone make sure they never talk to each other..

mmmmmmmmm ... freighter cheese strips .... mmmmmmmmmmmmm
<looks for drooling homer smiley>

dave

PS - I cast my vote for Yes, but if the current server is any example my available flying time seems to be about 4 missions a week anyway

[KBF MalaK]

oops, never realized PF's we're late era. Never used em c'ept on my I-BBVz on the forge (for base killin'). Disregard my previous post (and yes, I voted).


Mmmmmm, cheese goooood!

Sure beats facing heavy metal in a CL without amd.