we have isolated it down to me. we have tryed IP, and at gamespy, both ways i can host or connect ip ways. eather way i can only be in with me and 1 other person. we tryed all ways we could. i have a portforwarding on my router and it has a gamespy and starfleet command, and empires at war sfc2 service built in and i have tryed with all on or one at a time. i tryed a few of our own ones too. the router is a Westell 6100 dsl modem/router in one. there is no firewall on in the router or my computer eather. I am playin with some old timers that do know what there doin too. i used to play sfc1 at mplayer way back. OP is a fun game and i would'nt mind playin with more then one other player. a list of ports or any idea's would be great........ thanks for any help you can