Topic: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.  (Read 6748 times)

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anduril

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A little bit of a nose job.  The added fighter bays got moved to the bottom of the hull.  Hull has been reworked a bit as have the plasma tubes.  Deciding on how to map the sphere has held this one up for a couple months but I think I have something I can be happy with and can continue on and finish it finally.





 

Khalee

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2003, 08:54:48 pm »
looken good.

Lord Schtupp

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2003, 11:22:05 am »
Yes that is a noticable improvement Anduril, did you rework the textures as well?
 

anduril

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2003, 11:30:57 am »
Why yes.

How kind of you to ask!    

The textures are a new build based on the TOS era Romulan Bop I did last fall.  And put together with the Sparrowhawk I redid using the same scheme gives a start on a semi unified TOS romulan ship group with a little SFB flavor.

 

WickedZombie45

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2003, 01:26:51 pm »
Which makes for a pretty target to shoot at    

Rod O'neal

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2003, 10:54:56 pm »
Quote:

Which makes for a pretty target to shoot at    





ROFLMAO Ever see a Fed *try* to outrun an R-torp while overloading photons?
It's a beautifull sight, as long as that type R isn't in your rearview mirror!

Live Long and Conquer  

anduril

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2003, 01:52:01 pm »
Toying with the idea of putting a variant of what ADB says should be the bird emblem on the top of the hull and leaving the traditional bird on the bottom.

 

Lord Schtupp

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2003, 02:18:57 pm »
Yea I like that - a lot.

 

Khalee

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2003, 05:14:14 pm »
When you gonna get your ships back up for download, also some of the picture links dont work either on your site.

anduril

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2003, 05:17:56 pm »
That is in the works......

ChrisJohnson

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2003, 08:44:24 pm »
Beautiful job Anduril.  Reminds me of some imaginative SFB-ship battles I had in my mind.

Rod O'neal

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2003, 11:40:50 pm »
It's shaping up really nice. I've wished for some retextures of the FD13 TOS ships for a while. No insult intended to the originals or the modelers. I just think everyone's gotten better over time and would like to see some new life breathed into them. TOS is still my favorite. Something cool about a battle with the originals

Bernard Guignard

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2003, 05:53:11 am »
Very Nice Anduril
   With work like this ADB would be paying you for illustrations of ship battles. its that good. Looking forward to downloading
her.  

anduril

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2003, 11:52:40 am »
I would love to have the time to go back over most of the Ghost.fox-Anduril creations.  I kind of think of those days as our McCartney-Lennon days.  Simple models in mono (256x256) format.

I've got a few reworks laying around that need getting to and I will.  The Roms will definately get reworked with the SFB base intact but some added flair.  

Playing around with the lower shuttle bay.  Basic stuff so far.

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anduril

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2003, 08:23:43 am »
How about this then?

No reason why a Rom shouldn't have a registry.  Even if it is a subtle display of it's name.

King Condor......Imperialistic fed designation

I prefer Armageddon class Battleship and this ship goes by the name of Soulcrusher.



 

Rogue

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2003, 06:57:25 pm »
Of course it's good. Many times it's the subtle stuff that really does the trick. BTW, your sparrowhawk was an important contribution. It made it easy to repaint the FD13 Romulan meshes. Everything from the Starhawk to the Demonhawk. Thanks for what you do Anduril.  

Parislord

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2003, 07:41:06 pm »
Awesome looking Rom.

But where can I get that Enterprise Pre-TOS Rom in your sig?

anduril

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2003, 08:57:37 pm »
Starhawk to Demonhawk, fond memories.

I plan on hittin all of them again.  I still have a couple meshes for the omega hawk and the other multi-engined beastie laying around somewhere.


That Rommie from Enterprise in my sig will get released fairly soon.  There are a few things in the works for the Galactic Fringe that need to be finished first.
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Anthony_Scott

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2003, 12:00:01 am »
Vey nice....not that fleetdock's orginal Rommie was anything to look down on...Can't wait to fly it in combat!

E_Look

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2003, 12:53:40 pm »
If anyone still plays the single player mission, Surprise Reversed 2, having an assembled fleet (7 ships!) of TOS Romulans or Klingons is an impressive sight!  The mission includes either a BB or DN, a BC, a CA, a couple of CL's, and a couple of FF's for the invader (three ships, CA, DD to DWC, CL) to shoot.  Woe onto you if a couple of the big boys wake up unexpectedly!  Given the TOS models we can all get, I think the Klingon and Romulan fleets look most impressive (and Anduril's rework is going to make it that much better)... I love Starfleet, but I'm just so used to looking at them that despite the truly beautiful and meticulous Federation models everyone has turned out, these other two empires' ships are really eye-pleasing.  Gorn is almost there, but there isn't enough variety; and this is just way too true for the Hydrans and Lyrans.

After having said that and declaring once again that I'm an incorrigible TOS fan, the TMP Klingons
 REALLY    look good... or was that TNG?   Ah, TOS!  
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anduril

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2003, 06:57:09 am »
I know, or at least knew, the feeling of encountering these models at the most inopportune of times.  Especially when a BB woke up first.  One thing the rework of this mesh has done has gotten me to reload at least one version of this game.  OP.  The SFB'ish Roms may not be the prettiest of ships but I like em for some twisted reason.  I have a redone Lyran BB that I used to play with different style disruptor mounts to get something other than the square pads on the miniatures which were not doubt the result of the basic molds they made.  I think I've decided on a look that simulates the retracted claws of a cat.  They resemble the adamantium claw sockets that Wolverine used to have before Mr. Magnetism himself removed it from W's body.  For those who know of the short ball of fury's history you'll know what I'm talking about.  They look much better than the simple square pads.

Anyway, illumination update.




 

Rogue

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2003, 09:37:04 am »
I love the King Condor. My favorite single player set up is  kill the behemoth. Start with a lone Battleship of a given race. Pretend you have just received orders to kill said batlleship. As intellegence had discovered enemy battleship in route from production yards to unknown destination, an opportunity presents itself. Your task is to deprive the enemy of this expensive and prized addition to the fleet. I really like to fly a Federation space control vs. the King Condor. Not that hard to win. But if it doesn't go well, you die. The key is lots of drones and not wasting the fighters.

Also noted is the surprise reversed scenario. Fun because it can be so tough to win. All depending on the harm one can inflict before they power up. I wished 'The Juggernaut' scenario had made it into SFC. That was fun!  

E_Look

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2003, 10:11:55 am »
Wait a minute, Rogue!

That somehow rings a bell!  When I get a bit of time, I'll search my SFC-stuff-collections, because I thought I might once have run across some old mission that might have borne that name.  Disclaimer: I could very well be very wrong, but I'll check.  I know there's an old model (Ghost's?) by that name.

You know what I like to do also?  In the basic Hostile Skirmish mission, I set up with medium size planets in the background (John Stone's planet skins from his Spacedock site can really re-jazz the look of your "universe"), late era, set up for three Klingon warships, allowing the range to be from light cruiser to battlecruiser- you get often a different mix of different types of D7's and if you have assigned all the different and truly wonderful TOS D7 models to the different variations in the sfbspc13 file, you really get a visual treat at various times; you see different kinds of D7's, often mixed in with a D6 (once I saw a D5... must have screwed up in my setup that time), and selecting a couple of "tools" from the spacedock after choosing a Starfleet CB.  You can win, but sometimes the game is merciless and you're just cooling spacedust.

I changed the big ringed planet in the Save the Hood scenario to one I bashed from (I won't say kitbashed- that's way too high class for what I did, which was something very easy) different planet meshes and skins- a beautiful, huge, blue, ringed gas giant.  It still makes me blink and panic a bit when I get blinded flying through the expansive ring!  Oh, sometimes I still get smoked in that scenario, too... why the other night... well, it wasn't champagne in San Fran, it was blood wine on Q'onos.
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Rogue

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2003, 12:44:51 pm »
Hmmm, perhaps  First of her kind ? Or maybe that was centered around the first Federation dreadnought? And I share your experience with  Surprise reversed. There is a certain pucker factor when the larger enemy vessels wake early.

I have used the planets you mention and they are excellent. Made that pass through the rings and experienced much the same thing.

To comment on Andurils return to the modeling forum. I'm glad you still enjoy it. I remember you getting a little frustrated with 'the retarded nature' of the forum.  Just glad to see you active again.  I would rather er on the side of being over complementary than critical. I suppose that's why I make too many comments on a forum I am not really contributing to in a meaningful way. Having said that...  

anduril

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2003, 01:03:42 pm »
Criticism has never bothered me personally.  If someone offers up some I evaluate what they say, take a look at the model and see if it would look better and either make some modifications for not.  It's still my decision.  I had a lot of it when I made the Constitution.  Most of it was wrong since I was staring at pictures of the ship for hours when I made it but I didn't come back and call the people who offered stupid and whine about it.  They believed it to be true so what is the big deal.  It is too bad there are a number of people who become very vocal at the slightest suggestion which they perceive as criticism.  And then the usual "I may just stop modeling" blah blah's start.

This ship, as well as the Franklin will become available in the near future.  Big Fringe things are afoot it's just the afoot is a little slow in the going.

starforce2

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2003, 01:36:38 pm »
Quote:

Criticism has never bothered me personally.  If someone offers up some I evaluate what they say, take a look at the model and see if it would look better and either make some modifications for not.  It's still my decision.  I had a lot of it when I made the Constitution.  Most of it was wrong since I was staring at pictures of the ship for hours when I made it but I didn't come back and call the people who offered stupid and whine about it.  They believed it to be true so what is the big deal.  It is too bad there are a number of people who become very vocal at the slightest suggestion which they perceive as criticism.  And then the usual "I may just stop modeling" blah blah's start.

This ship, as well as the Franklin will become available in the near future.  Big Fringe things are afoot it's just the afoot is a little slow in the going.  




Well, when I first saw this, I thought it was down right ugly. Normally I aint a fan of stuff this old, even feds much before the connie/saladin ect, but I must say it has turned out great with the texture work, and looks great now..

E_Look

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2003, 02:10:56 pm »
Aw, c'mon...

... even the original, which I am currently using in my Romulan fleet, was pretty good.  Now, those Romulans that had that smoothed out bulbous look, for example, the one that carried the mini-RomBOP's on the outside and ones like it... now, those were ugly.  Brrrrrr....  

Rod O'neal

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2003, 11:18:59 pm »
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This ship, as well as the Franklin will become available in the near future.  Big Fringe things are afoot it's just the afoot is a little slow in the going.  




More TOS re-textures??????  

anduril

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #28 on: March 16, 2003, 08:38:43 am »
This will probably be the last update on this ship.  There are a few things like dimming the lights in the windows and putting a little detail in the rear of the warp engines.

First the old and the new.  The new BB is scaled to 400 meters.  It's supposed to be big and bad and I always thought the old one was a little small.  I understand Max a little better now so it's easy to check/correct such things.




And finally a couple ingame shots.  Had to search all around for the 2525 patch.  Did the rumored new OP patch ever come out?  I suppose it's silly for me to ask that question.  At least I still have Firesouls revised shiplist.



 

Bernard Guignard

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #29 on: March 16, 2003, 08:53:47 am »
Hi Anduri
   Its great I'm looking forward to downloading it and adding it to OP.  

anduril

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #30 on: March 16, 2003, 09:05:18 am »
I've been having this thought in my head for a while now.

What color is the Sun in the Rom's system.  I realize that TNG had the Warbirds interior lighting as whiteish but why does every race live under a sun of the same color?  They would have you believe that since the lighting is almost always the same.

Would a reddish cast to the windows fit a race that lives under a red sun and see's colors differently?  Hydrans live in Methane, for some reason orange sticks out in my head.  Could their windows show that?  

Just thougths as I'm not sure I'd go back and start changing window colors...

Lord Schtupp

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #31 on: March 16, 2003, 03:00:35 pm »
your right a slight yellow-orange or red cast the the window ports would look better I think...

E_Look

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #32 on: March 16, 2003, 03:32:37 pm »
Maybe we can ask Clark_Kent, but wasn't Superman born on a world orbiting a red sun?

But did anyone ever see the Big E go to a world orbiting anything other than a white star in TNG?  (TOS may not be of much help here.)  It's been so long I really don't remember.

Rod O'neal

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #33 on: March 22, 2003, 09:48:17 pm »
BUMP
Didn't want to let this get misplaced.

anduril

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #34 on: March 25, 2003, 12:38:49 pm »
It won't get misplaced.

It's in orbit awaiting The Galactic Fringe's rebirth.  If that doesn't become a reality fairly soon I'll just post a link.

TheStressPuppy

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #35 on: March 28, 2003, 03:32:30 pm »
THAT is one impressive ship Anduril. You did an awsome job with her  

Bernard Guignard

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #36 on: April 29, 2003, 09:10:08 pm »
Quote:

This will probably be the last update on this ship.  There are a few things like dimming the lights in the windows and putting a little detail in the rear of the warp engines.

First the old and the new.  The new BB is scaled to 400 meters.  It's supposed to be big and bad and I always thought the old one was a little small.  I understand Max a little better now so it's easy to check/correct such things.




And finally a couple ingame shots.  Had to search all around for the 2525 patch.  Did the rumored new OP patch ever come out?  I suppose it's silly for me to ask that question.  At least I still have Firesouls revised shiplist.



 



Hello Anduril
   How are things going? just wondering how this wip was coming along?    

Rogue

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #37 on: June 12, 2003, 12:39:17 pm »
I must bump this. I was in a fight earlier today with a King Condor and thought to myself how good it would be to have Anduril's updated King Condor. I suspect those textures would be a snap to apply to her smaller cousins.

What news for Galactic Fringe Anduril? And are you still thinking of making that TOS Oberth?

As always, an appreciative fan of your models.  

anduril

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #38 on: June 12, 2003, 04:36:49 pm »
Well, this ship was to be part of an announcement but since that is put on hold do to RL stuff here it is.

 King Condor  

Bernard Guignard

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #39 on: June 12, 2003, 06:18:43 pm »
Hi Anduril
   Thank you so very much. Your work is much appreciated. Sorry I haven't been in contact with you lately been busy
with RL so I know what you've been talking about. If your still interested in continuing with the Mauler when you have the time I'll try to free up some time  to get some more details down for you. Any way Take care and drop me a line so I don't forget about you and I hope you get to do some more modeling in the near future by the way how did that classic bridge for BC turn out? Fantastic work on all your efforts  

Marauth

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #40 on: June 12, 2003, 06:27:14 pm »
Yo Anduril, love the textures on this puuppy, very schmoove! I can't stand the design of the ship though (the SFB ship, not your or FD13's model) it's just an enlarged War Eagle with a neck and sphere stuck to it to make it look slightly Klingon, and who'd put plasma launchers INSIDE the bussard collectors!?!! LOL Oh those crazy SFBers! Nice to see another model from you Anduril, I still got all your pre-tos Feds gathering dust all over their MSpaint textured hulls.

Rogue

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #41 on: June 12, 2003, 06:50:02 pm »
Woohoo! Let me make this perfectly clear... You Rock guy! Thank you much for taking the time to put the download link up.  

anduril

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #42 on: June 12, 2003, 06:56:47 pm »
I was aghast to say the least when they first released the design for the Condor being a Rom at heart and all.  I was always buggered a bit that SVC and the design boys didn't follow a more graceful birdlike line for the newer Rom ships.  

All the early designs will get their due eventually.  The Asia went first of course since it's such a sweet design.  The Eclipse was a natural since it uses the same nacelles.  And no the Eclipse hasn't been released but I may drop the link sooner or later if we don't get things up and running.

Now that I'm getting back to the ships a bit the Bird of Vengeance is getting very close to being done and I've started re-meshing the pre TNG era Sirius.

Rod O'neal

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Re: Also in the works. The remake of Fleetdock 13's Romulan King Condor.
« Reply #43 on: June 13, 2003, 11:43:41 am »
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It won't get misplaced.

It's in orbit awaiting The Galactic Fringe's rebirth.  If that doesn't become a reality fairly soon I'll just post a link.  




Alright!!! You're a man of your word. (I was beginning to worry though.   ) Great ship! I'm lookig forward to more. Thanks.