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Re: ***** STRESS TEST for SG6 TONIGHT *****
« Reply #40 on: August 05, 2006, 12:15:22 pm »
U have the new shiplist ck ur email...

Ill get u the map fairly soon... Can you make terrain edits on the map using flatfile?

Coolness I can start on the new installer then.

Yes I can edit the map on the flatfile while the server is down either with Dave's editor or my trusty hex editor (Sweetscape's 010 Editor).

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Re: ***** STRESS TEST for SG6 TONIGHT *****
« Reply #41 on: August 05, 2006, 12:16:19 pm »
Good. Then the Doomsday Device can destroy everyone's planets! MUHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Re: ***** STRESS TEST for SG6 TONIGHT *****
« Reply #42 on: August 05, 2006, 12:21:15 pm »
However ~ If I may be so bold~ If yuo want to discourage all forefeits make it a PENALTY. Cheap ships and high paying missions
(as well as 50K of course on the test) make 1k a drop in the bucket.
Make it 10K and I think you'd get alot fewer.

I was considering that, but I have not tested what happens if the forfeit penalty is greater than a players PP... will it go negative? Will it crash the server? This is unknown. If I knew that the serverkit would handle it properly I would the forfeit penalty to 1000000, but now is not the time for me to go digging through the serverkit code to find out if the math and code will handle that properly. Though we could test it and find out. But I still need the new shiplist and map and we are already past launch time...

it goes to 0 and stays there, at least on FF but i would assume that happens in SQL as well
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Re: ***** STRESS TEST for SG6***** Was last night, test is over thx all
« Reply #43 on: August 05, 2006, 12:24:11 pm »
Thanks Risky. Consider it done then, the forfeit penalty will be 1000000. (though I'm sure that won't stop people from crashing the server when its convenient with an alternate account)

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Re: ***** STRESS TEST for SG6***** Was last night, test is over thx all
« Reply #44 on: August 05, 2006, 12:29:23 pm »
If a player is ghosted and someone runs a mission in their hex they get a forfeit. FYI

EDIT: And thge drafting player gets a long countdown after which he to will get a forfeit or a crash or a mission start, one of the three.

Obviously, forfeits are a small hole and unpatched problem of this game. Sigh.

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Re: ***** STRESS TEST for SG6***** Was last night, test is over thx all
« Reply #45 on: August 05, 2006, 12:31:03 pm »
If a player is ghosted and someone runs a mission in their hex they get a forfeit. FYI

Getting a forfeit as a mission result is not the same as pressing the forfeit button. (the bloody evil thing should not even be there at all, I have no idea what Taldren was thinking and how its code passed QA... assuming there was any... OK, I'm getitng cranky time to chill...;))

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Re: ***** STRESS TEST for SG6***** Was last night, test is over thx all
« Reply #46 on: August 05, 2006, 12:32:31 pm »
U still get docked prestige.

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Re: ***** STRESS TEST for SG6***** Was last night, test is over thx all
« Reply #47 on: August 05, 2006, 12:34:06 pm »
I am convinced that player ghosting would be significantly reduced if people did not insist on running software firewalls.

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Re: ***** STRESS TEST for SG6***** Was last night, test is over thx all
« Reply #48 on: August 05, 2006, 12:41:28 pm »
or if the cable the server was on actually worked all the time..
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Re: ***** STRESS TEST for SG6***** Was last night, test is over thx all
« Reply #49 on: August 05, 2006, 12:48:21 pm »
That too of course. Unfortunately, Comcast is incapable of physically securing their copper. (I don't know why, every Canadian cable company I have had experience with is extremely anal about line security and manages to keep their lines secure...)

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Re: ***** STRESS TEST for SG6***** Was last night, test is over thx all
« Reply #50 on: August 05, 2006, 12:54:15 pm »
Securing their copper? Is someone actually 'taping' your line and stealing your bandwidth?

Maybe it would be good to look for another providor, I believe most contracts have a clause in them that allows the client to break it if they are recieving unsatisfactory service ;)

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Re: ***** STRESS TEST for SG6***** Was last night, test is over thx all
« Reply #51 on: August 05, 2006, 01:24:29 pm »
Frey needs to finish the "Woes of the Administrator" story.

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Re: ***** STRESS TEST for SG6***** Was last night, test is over thx all
« Reply #52 on: August 05, 2006, 01:32:44 pm »
Rofl, I just found that thread. I wanna hear more on it :D

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Re: ***** STRESS TEST for SG6***** Was last night, test is over thx all
« Reply #53 on: August 05, 2006, 01:35:10 pm »
I dont think he will be doing more of that.. at least last time I talked to him he said he probably wouldnt finish it...
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Re: ***** STRESS TEST for SG6***** Was last night, test is over thx all
« Reply #54 on: August 05, 2006, 02:37:49 pm »
Securing their copper? Is someone actually 'taping' your line and stealing your bandwidth?

Yes tapping the lines, but to steal cable TV. The noise introduced on the line makes network traffic nearly impossible. While coax is a superior signal conductor it is very fussy about how it is wired. Inexpert tenants stealing cable in nearby apartment buildings is all it takes to cripple a cable network segment. Most buildings have their cable access points locked down. Unfortunately there are some down there who do not and seem to refuse to.

Anyway, I have decided the forfeit penalty will remain at 1000 PP as I'm not sure if it is deducted from erroneous forfeit mission results. And cranking it up to a million will not stop people from creating another account to crash the server at their convenience anyway.

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Re: ***** STRESS TEST for SG6***** Was last night, test is over thx all
« Reply #55 on: August 05, 2006, 02:39:43 pm »
Are we just talking about mission forfeits? Does ESC-Forfeit in a mission cause the same problems?

Does Alt-F4?

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Re: ***** STRESS TEST for SG6***** Was last night, test is over thx all
« Reply #56 on: August 05, 2006, 02:42:31 pm »
I am talking about pressing the forfeit button instead of accepting a mandatory mission at the mission selection panel.

As far as I know an ALT-F4 or ESC-Forfeit does not force the server to try to resolve a mission as a forfeit in the same way.

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Re: ***** STRESS TEST for SG6***** Was last night, test is over thx all
« Reply #57 on: August 05, 2006, 02:44:58 pm »
K, just checking

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Re: ***** STRESS TEST for SG6***** Was last night, test is over thx all
« Reply #58 on: August 05, 2006, 02:56:09 pm »
When the news reports that a player has forfeited a mission, said player is docked whatever the pp penalty is. FYI

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Re: ***** STRESS TEST for SG6***** Was last night, test is over thx all
« Reply #59 on: August 05, 2006, 03:00:42 pm »
Sometimes lag causes that. I have seen myself get that in the news and I never forfeit.

Anytime you get a countdown to 0 I think it reports a forfeit.

The good news is TT has a new puter now.  ;D