Topic: When does SFB time meet with Star Trek timeline?

[Age]

  When does the timeline in SFB meet up with that of Star Trek or does it?I was wondering if there is ever a Kitomor Accord agreement ?

[Ornery Rooster]

Star Fleet Battles and Star Trek don't share the same timeline.

SFB supposedly takes place during the original series era of Star Trek, but think of it more as taking place in an alternate universe.  There are no Lyrans in Star Trek and no Cardassians in SFB, for example.

[FPF-DieHard]

Use the time of Gorn first contact to match everything up as that occured on the show.

[PANZERBUNNY]

well.....considering they encoutnered the gorn in star trek enterprise......things aren't taht stable anymore with the time line hehe

[Lieutenant_Q]

no...THEY didn't.  The Gorn was encountered in the Mirror, Mirror Timeline early.  Presumably because the Terrans are far more exapansive there... 

[Rod ONeal]

  When does the timeline in SFB meet up with that of Star Trek or does it?I was wondering if there is ever a Kitomor Accord agreement ?

IIRC the original 5yr mission was Y155 to Y160 in SFB terms. No Kitomor (sp?) accord. The Klingons are always the badguys in SFB. The first confrontation (depicted in TOS with Kirk and the Gorn Captain duking it out. I don't recall the episode name.) with the Gorns was Y157.

[yochenhsieh]

IIRC the original 5yr mission was Y155 to Y160 in SFB terms. No Kitomor (sp?) accord. The Klingons are always the badguys in SFB. The first confrontation (depicted in TOS with Kirk and the Gorn Captain duking it out. I don't recall the episode name.) with the Gorns was Y157.

Kirk vs. Gorn Captain: "Arena", year 2267.
Kirk's five-year mission is 2265-2270 according to memory-alpha:)
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Five-year_mission

[Khalee1]

If you want to get all technical about it  the time lines meet when Xships first appear in sfb, as they would be the first movie type ships. Then the so called lost era would be operation unity in sfb, when the Andros were finally defeated.

the trade wars that accrued afterwords would be the start of the TNG era. That era would also be when the 2nd generation xships came about.

But I suppose you could fudge that back to the late lost Era time line as well

[Magnum357]

I've come to the conclusion that SFB and Star Trek are kinda different universes/realities (kinda like the Mirror Universe Eps).  Steve Cole has said in the past that SFB/SFU is not really based on Star Trek, more on the Tech Manuals of the TOS.  People have wanted him to include stuff from TMP and TNG stuff, but with so many differeneces with those shows compared to TOS and SFB, I think he prefers to make SFU as whole seprate universe then trying to copy stuff from TMP/TNG era Star Trek. 

I can see linking TOS Star Trek Dates to SFB Dates can be possible, but forget trying to link TNG Star Trek dates to SFB dates.

[Nemesis]

IIRC the original 5yr mission was Y155 to Y160 in SFB terms. No Kitomor (sp?) accord. The Klingons are always the badguys in SFB.

In spite of Federation propaganda to the contrary the Klingons are not the bad guys.  We have the misfortune to be occupying an area of space that was mostly mined out by a prior civilization.  To survive we must expand.  Those in our way must accommodate us or be removed.  It is a matter of species survival not evil that compels us to be militaristic.  It could be argued that the Federation by attempting to block that expansion is Evil because they would rather see the Klingon race destroyed rather than allow us access to the required resources in border territories.

(Listen to Kor explain to Kirk during Errand of Mercy).

[Rod ONeal]

IIRC the original 5yr mission was Y155 to Y160 in SFB terms. No Kitomor (sp?) accord. The Klingons are always the badguys in SFB.

In spite of Federation propaganda to the contrary the Klingons are not the bad guys.  We have the misfortune to be occupying an area of space that was mostly mined out by a prior civilization.  To survive we must expand.  Those in our way must accommodate us or be removed.  It is a matter of species survival not evil that compels us to be militaristic.  It could be argued that the Federation by attempting to block that expansion is Evil because they would rather see the Klingon race destroyed rather than allow us access to the required resources in border territories.

(Listen to Kor explain to Kirk during Errand of Mercy).

Nonsense! If the Federation wanted the Klingon race destroyed they'd just do it. 

[Ravok]

IIRC the original 5yr mission was Y155 to Y160 in SFB terms. No Kitomor (sp?) accord. The Klingons are always the badguys in SFB.

In spite of Federation propaganda to the contrary the Klingons are not the bad guys.  We have the misfortune to be occupying an area of space that was mostly mined out by a prior civilization.  To survive we must expand.  Those in our way must accommodate us or be removed.  It is a matter of species survival not evil that compels us to be militaristic.  It could be argued that the Federation by attempting to block that expansion is Evil because they would rather see the Klingon race destroyed rather than allow us access to the required resources in border territories.

(Listen to Kor explain to Kirk during Errand of Mercy).

Nonsense! If the Federation wanted the Klingon race destroyed they'd just do it. 

 Only in one of your timid,weak, FlatHead dreams.

[762_XC]

He meant to say bad breath guys.

[Panzergranate]

Well in SFC 2250 = SFB Y146, if you go by some of the ship introduction dates.

The Klingon's use of Drone Missiles comes directly from the episode "Errand of Mercy" as the Enterprise is show under fire form them.

There is some acknowledgement of SFB in keeping ST alive with TNG's mention of Mercurite Missiles. Also in ENT Tholians are depicted as crustaline spider like creatures. This was never revealed in TOS but is a description given of Tholians in SFB. Also the mention of Riker's  cuuning as a tactical offiecr on another ship in evading a Tholian dreadnaught. Perhaps one of the two DNs the Tholians have in SFB??

If you look carefully at some TNG, DS9, Voy and ENT episodes youu can see that perhaps SFB may have had some influence on writer's minds.

Oh, yes, the  Defiant corvette's Pulse Phasers and SFBs PhG work the same way!! Coincidence??!!

[Age]

IIRC the original 5yr mission was Y155 to Y160 in SFB terms. No Kitomor (sp?) accord. The Klingons are always the badguys in SFB.

In spite of Federation propaganda to the contrary the Klingons are not the bad guys.  We have the misfortune to be occupying an area of space that was mostly mined out by a prior civilization.  To survive we must expand.  Those in our way must accommodate us or be removed.  It is a matter of species survival not evil that compels us to be militaristic.  It could be argued that the Federation by attempting to block that expansion is Evil because they would rather see the Klingon race destroyed rather than allow us access to the required resources in border territories.

(Listen to Kor explain to Kirk during Errand of Mercy).

Nonsense! If the Federation wanted the Klingon race destroyed they'd just do it. 

 Only in one of your timid,weak, FlatHead dreams.

Well the is what the Federation is trying to do expand outwards as we need more space to keep humanity alive.
       
          Mutanthead and you do have badbreath

         Oh btw I am not talking about TNG just Kirk's era.

[Panzergranate]

It is man's natural instinct to dislike Cats, something they have in common with Klingons!!

Perhaps a Klingon - Federation alliance to keep the Universe's gardens free of Alien Feline cat poop??!!

Runabouts are based on the SFB MRS shuttle concept evolved.

The Maquis Perigrine PFs....... PFs  are straight from SFB.

Now hands up how many readers think that some of the ST writers have played SFB at sometime or other??

If you're well versed in SFB you'll spot the subtile inspirations and items in ST from SFB.

 

[Soreyes]

It is man's natural instinct to dislike Cats, something they have in common with Klingons!!

Perhaps a Klingon - Federation alliance to keep the Universe's gardens free of Alien Feline cat poop??!!

 

The Feds like us Kitty's    We all know what happens when the Klingons and the Kzin team up 

[Panzergranate]

I've played as Kzinti in SFB and SFC,  and once the drone racks are bare, things are a bit dicey, to say the least!!

Anyway the Feds and the Klingons have had umpteen altercations with the Kzinti in the past.

Klingons only need allies to draw enemy fire and act as cannon fodder!!

As Kzinti ships use late old 2100's design (the rust colour scheme gives this away!!) with poor direct fire weaponry, compared to Klingon ships, they fill this role adequately.

At least Klingons fight alongside their allies, unlike the Romulan P'taks, who prefer to trick their allies into doing all the fighting for them!!

[Ravok]

It is man's natural instinct to dislike Cats, something they have in common with Klingons!!

Perhaps a Klingon - Federation alliance to keep the Universe's gardens free of Alien Feline cat poop??!!

Runabouts are based on the SFB MRS shuttle concept evolved.

The Maquis Perigrine PFs....... PFs  are straight from SFB.

Now hands up how many readers think that some of the ST writers have played SFB at sometime or other??

If you're well versed in SFB you'll spot the subtile inspirations and items in ST from SFB.

 

 Who told you that??

 We think cat tastes just fine.

[Hexx]

Klingons make excellent lackies.

Feds make excellent 'nip.

And really- for 99.999add infinitum "similarities" between SFB and TNG are coincidental at best.

I fail to see a "hey look, TNG has a small warship with warp power- it must be a PF!!!!"  connection of any sort.
Runabouts would generally be "shuttles evolved" You know shuttles- the things in the original series as well?

SFB is very much a 20th century Naval Wargame slapped on a Star Trek background.