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Nicotine helps cancer grow - blocks inhibitors
« on: July 24, 2006, 07:29:25 pm »
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A closer look revealed that nicotine caused a molecule called Raf-1 to bind to a key protein called Rb, which normally suppresses tumours.

This interference with the Rb protein's function could make the cancer spread faster, says Chellappan. Eight out of ten tumours examined by his group had abnormally high Raf-1 and Rb interactions, a finding that lends further support to this idea.


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Re: Nicotine helps cancer grow - blocks inhibitors
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2006, 09:59:00 pm »
Life is cancer, cancer is life. I suspect you cannot have one without the other.

I need a smoke. ;)

I'm sure the benzo[a]pyrene in tobacco smoke is the primary concern, but a synergistic effect of nicotine certainly won't help. Nicotine is a good organic pesticide.
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Re: Nicotine helps cancer grow - blocks inhibitors
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2006, 12:16:01 am »
glyco nutrients. not just a natural health gimic, oncology trials are under way with it. helps your body produce stem cells among other things.
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Re: Nicotine helps cancer grow - blocks inhibitors
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2006, 08:59:06 pm »
Quote from: Bonk on July 24, 2006, 09:59:00 pm
Life is cancer, cancer is life. I suspect you cannot have one without the other.

I need a smoke. ;)

I'm sure the benzo[a]pyrene in tobacco smoke is the primary concern, but a synergistic effect of nicotine certainly won't help. Nicotine is a good organic pesticide.

Did you just use the word synergy in a sentance?

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Re: Nicotine helps cancer grow - blocks inhibitors
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2006, 07:31:05 pm »
Quote from: Punisher NCC-2000 on July 25, 2006, 08:59:06 pm
Quote from: Bonk on July 24, 2006, 09:59:00 pm
Life is cancer, cancer is life. I suspect you cannot have one without the other.

I need a smoke. ;)

I'm sure the benzo[a]pyrene in tobacco smoke is the primary concern, but a synergistic effect of nicotine certainly won't help. Nicotine is a good organic pesticide.

Did you just use the word synergy in a sentance?

::points to sign::

No corporate buzzwords.

Synergy is a perfectly cromulant word used down my way.
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Re: Nicotine helps cancer grow - blocks inhibitors
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2006, 08:13:24 pm »
That's interesting.  It's been known for a while that Nicotine can cause Cancer...but I don't know if they had boiled it down so specifically.  It does make one wonder.  If they can find a way to remove that specific molecule, but keep the rest of it intact, if smoking or chewing Nicotine could relatively be made to be safe (well at least as safe as putting anything on fire to your mouth if you smoke)...or at least not be seen as a cause (or more accurately I suppose, a gateopener for) cancer.
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Re: Nicotine helps cancer grow - blocks inhibitors
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2006, 10:58:59 pm »
Quote from: Bonk on July 24, 2006, 09:59:00 pm
Life is cancer, cancer is life. I suspect you cannot have one without the other...

Aw, do you REALLY believe that??

Cancer is obviously entropic; it fits the description.

But consider something radical: perhaps entropy is not exactly necessary, ultimately, cosmically.
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Re: Nicotine helps cancer grow - blocks inhibitors
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2006, 05:36:03 pm »
Quote from: E_Look NCC-9091 on July 26, 2006, 10:58:59 pm
But consider something radical: perhaps entropy is not exactly necessary, ultimately, cosmically.

Let there be light.
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Re: Nicotine helps cancer grow - blocks inhibitors
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2006, 10:11:26 pm »
Precisely.
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Re: Nicotine helps cancer grow - blocks inhibitors
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2006, 11:46:04 pm »
Quote from: Dash Jones on July 26, 2006, 08:13:24 pm
That's interesting.  It's been known for a while that Nicotine can cause Cancer...but I don't know if they had boiled it down so specifically.  It does make one wonder.  If they can find a way to remove that specific molecule, but keep the rest of it intact, if smoking or chewing Nicotine could relatively be made to be safe (well at least as safe as putting anything on fire to your mouth if you smoke)...or at least not be seen as a cause (or more accurately I suppose, a gateopener for) cancer.

Nothing would please me more... but I suspect that God made nicotine the way it is fora reason. Too much of any drug is bad... but a little of it is often a good thing.

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Re: Nicotine helps cancer grow - blocks inhibitors
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2006, 04:59:49 pm »
Quote from: IKV Nemesis on July 24, 2006, 07:29:25 pm
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A closer look revealed that nicotine caused a molecule called Raf-1 to bind to a key protein called Rb, which normally suppresses tumours.

This interference with the Rb protein's function could make the cancer spread faster, says Chellappan. Eight out of ten tumours examined by his group had abnormally high Raf-1 and Rb interactions, a finding that lends further support to this idea.





How depressing....




I need a cigarette. :P ;D
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Re: Nicotine helps cancer grow - blocks inhibitors
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2006, 07:23:23 pm »
Quote from: E_Look NCC-9091 on July 26, 2006, 10:58:59 pm
Quote from: Bonk on July 24, 2006, 09:59:00 pm
Life is cancer, cancer is life. I suspect you cannot have one without the other...

Aw, do you REALLY believe that??

Cancer is obviously entropic; it fits the description.

But consider something radical: perhaps entropy is not exactly necessary, ultimately, cosmically.

Energy isn't created, only transferred.
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Re: Nicotine helps cancer grow - blocks inhibitors
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2006, 09:09:54 pm »
From the second you are given life... you are dying....

Can I bum a smoke guys??? ;D


BTW have you not read..... everything gives you cancer... I see something new every day that causes cancer....
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Re: Nicotine helps cancer grow - blocks inhibitors
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2006, 02:52:47 pm »
Posting on this forum gives you cancer.

Already my tumor is the size of a basketball.
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