Topic: KDF Hammer of War class BOP rebuild wip (Read 5111 times)

Raven Night · « **on:** July 22, 2006, 01:22:00 pm »

I decided to revamp the HoW. I wasnt happy with the old shape, and considering how well the shape of the Heart of Kahless turned out, and that this ship is the base for the Blade of Kahless, I thought a rebuild was in order, something that would be more complimentary to the added strakes and such that the BoK would have. So, basically, I reshaped the entire crew module/bridge, removed the center section and placed two horizontal pillars in it's place, and added some details here and there, while removing others. I reduced the poly count sofar down to a little over 3700, but I have to get it down to 3500, because the BoK will sit around 4k with the additional detail polys.

Another major change was the destruction of the brick bottom, giving it a channel instead that followed the neck all the way to the tail. This created a better overall look on the ventral hull, closer to the original BOP. I added a more classically styled impulse vent to the rear, and moved the shuttlebays underneath the ship, both hatches just forward and just to the right and left of the warp core on the ventral hull.

I still have to rebuild the wings, as they have alot of wasted polys. Here is my progress sofar...I will be adding pics with illumination shortly to show off the major components of the ship.

Starforce2 · « **Reply #1 on:** July 22, 2006, 02:46:37 pm »

is this the oen that sits on the neck of that huge one?

Dizzy · « **Reply #2 on:** July 22, 2006, 02:48:34 pm »

That mesh is bad ass. I'd prefer to see a longer neck on it tho. Cant wait till we have some skins.

Hollis J Wood · « **Reply #3 on:** July 22, 2006, 04:45:52 pm »

IWANNA IT I WANNA IT

Starforce2 · « **Reply #4 on:** July 22, 2006, 05:00:37 pm »

Quote from: dizzy on July 22, 2006, 02:48:34 pm

That mesh is bad ass. I'd prefer to see a longer neck on it tho. Cant wait till we have some skins.

I'd prefer no cannons. That type of gun design has got to be on the way out by now.

Raven Night · « **Reply #5 on:** July 22, 2006, 05:02:31 pm »

Quote from: Starforce2 on July 22, 2006, 02:46:37 pm

is this the oen that sits on the neck of that huge one?

Well, a dressed up version of this one, yes. The Blade of Kahless will have more red and gold panelling, like the C9-A (Heart of Kahless) and have some additional strakes and such, as well as boosted weapons and stats.

Raven Night · « **Reply #6 on:** July 22, 2006, 05:04:25 pm »

Quote from: dizzy on July 22, 2006, 02:48:34 pm

That mesh is bad ass. I'd prefer to see a longer neck on it tho. Cant wait till we have some skins.

I could try stretching out the neck, but then that means i have to lengthen the tubes on the side, so that might malform them. Ill see what i can do.

Keep in mind, this is a large ship...it was intended to replace the Kvort class bird of prey.

Raven Night · « **Reply #7 on:** July 22, 2006, 05:05:49 pm »

Quote from: Starforce2 on July 22, 2006, 05:00:37 pm

Quote from: dizzy on July 22, 2006, 02:48:34 pm
That mesh is bad ass. I'd prefer to see a longer neck on it tho. Cant wait till we have some skins.

I'd prefer no cannons. That type of gun design has got to be on the way out by now.

Lol. You were the one that told me to move the cannons to the outboard wings, remember? You said you thought it should have cannons like the Brel/Kvort...originally I had them only in the wings, and the nacelles on the outside were just that...warp nacelles.

Smiley · « **Reply #8 on:** July 22, 2006, 05:42:58 pm »

Quote from: Raven Night on July 22, 2006, 05:04:25 pm

Quote from: dizzy on July 22, 2006, 02:48:34 pm
That mesh is bad ass. I'd prefer to see a longer neck on it tho. Cant wait till we have some skins.

I could try stretching out the neck, but then that means i have to lengthen the tubes on the side, so that might malform them. Ill see what i can do.

Keep in mind, this is a large ship...it was intended to replace the Kvort class bird of prey.

Noooo - I think that it looks well proportioned the way that you currently have it - I don't think that the neck should be lengthened IMO. The only area I think should be worked on is the wings, which Raven's already said need work. Maybe making some of the angular curves more curvey and less angular! Hehe

Raven Night · « **Reply #9 on:** July 22, 2006, 07:34:12 pm »

Quote from: Smiley on July 22, 2006, 05:42:58 pm

Quote from: Raven Night on July 22, 2006, 05:04:25 pm
Quote from: dizzy on July 22, 2006, 02:48:34 pm
That mesh is bad ass. I'd prefer to see a longer neck on it tho. Cant wait till we have some skins.

I could try stretching out the neck, but then that means i have to lengthen the tubes on the side, so that might malform them. Ill see what i can do.

Keep in mind, this is a large ship...it was intended to replace the Kvort class bird of prey.

Noooo - I think that it looks well proportioned the way that you currently have it - I don't think that the neck should be lengthened IMO. The only area I think should be worked on is the wings, which Raven's already said need work. Maybe making some of the angular curves more curvey and less angular! Hehe

Yea, that is a problem. I'm trying a few solutions, im a bit tight on the polys, so I have to find other solutions.

Core · « **Reply #10 on:** July 22, 2006, 08:15:07 pm »

id make the wings smaller ... less massive and more curvy ... but maintain some of the bulk on the aft... but of course with the correct proportions.....
just a suggestion...

Dizzy · « **Reply #11 on:** July 22, 2006, 08:35:08 pm »

U know... if you want to cut some polys... the two tubes underneath the neck... can totally go. They are cool there but dont add anything to the model. In fact they make it look busy. Might lose them if you want to cut polys and they complicate extending the neck...

Chris Johnson · « **Reply #12 on:** July 23, 2006, 02:05:32 am »

Quote from: Chris Johnson on April 18, 2006, 02:35:14 pm

Y'know, if TNG's big Klingon BOP ships were retconned, I'd daresay we'd see this in a revised "Yesterday's Enterprise" [TNG] as a K'Vort-class. But that's me. Whatever it is, however it's placed, I think you're doing an excellent job with this model, RN.

That was back a few months ago... I still like the ship for the same reasons in spite of the revisions, but I'm uncertain if I really like the revisions or prefer the older version... I don't know. How I look at it now, the revised neck, to me, gives an impression that the ship is pretty big as one would be when as a substitute for the K'Vort/upsized BoP. Although I missed the ridges on the top of the neck. Continuing with my comments on the neck, it somehow screams more Romulan than Klingon on your third picture because it looks like two necks connected two a D'Deridex-esque sort-of head since the perspective view obscures the head. And on the ventral view, it looks a bit too fat, but that's alright... *sigh* Geez, I never thought I'd talk about necks in great length.

*shrug* I still like her though. Still one of my favorites from your designs.

Star Dragon · « **Reply #13 on:** July 23, 2006, 10:53:28 pm »

Since I didn't see the original I say don't change a thing! Wing cannons forever baby!!!

Not that I really want to know details, but after getting teased by all these wicked cool models you're making Raven, what's a rough ETA for BC2?

Chris Johnson · « **Reply #14 on:** July 24, 2006, 12:38:05 am »

Quote from: Star Dragon on July 23, 2006, 10:53:28 pm

Since I didn't see the original...

The original WIP pics of the model is located here.

Star Dragon · « **Reply #15 on:** July 24, 2006, 01:45:22 pm »

Ah I misread, I thought those were pics of the rebuild... NM

Starforce2 · « **Reply #16 on:** July 24, 2006, 02:44:33 pm »

man put the old head back on. the new one sucks lol

ModelsPlease · « **Reply #17 on:** August 07, 2006, 12:35:27 pm »

Raven Night · « **Reply #18 on:** August 07, 2006, 01:39:09 pm »

Im playing with a few different ideas right now. Just taking a diversion on a fed.

Fedman NCC-3758 · « **Reply #19 on:** August 08, 2006, 04:45:14 pm »

Fed?

Did someone say Fed?

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